Events/Trails 4th Annual 200LCDC Event (3 Viewers)

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I bet @kreiten and @Atwalz would be interested in this.

LCXC, good ring to it.

Maybe? I don't know everyone's financial, work, family, ect obligations. Not many people are able to take 2-3 weeks off from life to drink tequila, eat tacos, and wheel through the desert. I could be wrong. And if I am. Let's do it! Seriously.
 
Maybe? I don't know everyone's financial, work, family, ect obligations. Not many people are able to take 2-3 weeks off from life to drink tequila, eat tacos, and wheel through the desert. I could be wrong. And if I am. Let's do it! Seriously.

I can do those in the Summer...
Winter, Spring breaks (2 weeks each)... Summer. Late June - mid August.

Would be up for a "journey..."
 
I would love to do an east coast trip, though those trails are too hardcore for my LC right now.

I'm way too chicken for Mexico.
 
Being an IT guy, when things begin too big we break them into pieces, but related pieces. (Distributed processing.) So what about 2-4 overlapping sub-events where each one is different in trail selection/difficult, duration or type. Yet we would schedule some overlap so for one weekend we are all in one place - primarily to meet, talk, drink meet with vendors or whatever. Rather than 1 or 2 people planning the whole thing, each sub-event would have a couple of people helping organize it. SO Utah is a pretty large area. Maybe Moab is the central place we all meet. But before and/or after there would be sub-events that focus on challenging trails or extended trips or easier trails or something we haven't done or whatever. Just throwing it out there. If there a couple of "sub events" the week before the central weekend and a couple afterwards then those with more time and interest could possibly do two. And maybe a couple of people could focus on just the weekend in Moab.

Of course, that means a lot of people would have to step up to organize the sub-events.

OK, maybe that's all a bad idea.
 
Don't worry, I'll protect you Mark ;)

Ha ha... I've been all over the third world... Colombia, Afghanistan, all over Africa...jungles galore.

Just have Zero attraction to Mexico... Call me weird.
 
you're weird :flipoff2:
 
Much of Baja is saddening. the land and geography is amazing, high desert, mountains, beaches, you name it! some of the cities and small towns just break your heart how dirty and impoverished they are.

I used to go down through Baja with a pit/support team for the races, we would take toys, furniture, coins, stickers for the kids. Those who have so little appreciate every little thing. but there are so many that have taken the hardships there and turned dark in their soul. just steal and destroy stuff because they can. and usually there isn't much that can be done about it.
 
I remember the HIH group wanted to take over this 200 gathering after year 1's success / attention it received with only 8 rigs. In conversations we all agreed that wasn't going to happen. there was some animosity over it. That stopped though once it was understood there was no disrupting this movement of guys gathering just for kicks.

There's no surprise the HIH group makes $$$ and other perks come along with that. The original goal was to never be organized in that fashion, as in how HIH was /is. Goes back to the whole grass roots feeling. Possibly could go that route anyway due to the peaked interest levels and the cost barrier for 200 is now more affordable to more people.
Hopefully not though.

Seems like a time has kind of 'enhanced' the legend of the year one of the 200 event. I believe I came out there (no sponsors or payola involved) and lead you guys through Black Bear and had a good time. Glad you guys are still meeting up.

Just to clear it up for @TonyP and yourself, if you believe there is money to made running these types of events, you are pretty far off the mark. Year 1-7 of HIH has been net revenue neutral. The money you see exchange hands is covering costs. Our event brings everyone together for 3-4 full days @ 1 site, there are very few of our 200 plus attendees that stay in hotels. Space for that costs money, space requires infrastructure (toilets, showers) and those cost money. The shirts, hoodies, hats, etc. also have a cost. Unless you are buying 1000 plus of these types of items, you aren't making money on them. We also carry insurance = $$$$, pay the forest service/BLM for permitting costs, etc. Lastly, we have the best raffle for an event even remotely close to our size (thanks to vendors who come to our event and love it). Stan and I do not even take a raffle ticket, ever.

HIH speaks for itself really. We started with 4 trucks meeting up for fun and it has organically grown into an event that people get excited about. Sure, it can't be exactly the same as it was with 5-10 trucks, but from the feedback we get, it isn't that far off.

It's also a lot of work, so good luck with whatever you end up doing. thx

@paflytyer and I are already planning HIH8, send us your address and we can get you a sticker. :)

thx @BuckeyeFan for the kind words.
 
Seems like a time has kind of 'enhanced' the legend of the year one of the 200 event. I believe I came out there (no sponsors or payola involved) and lead you guys through Black Bear and had a good time. Glad you guys are still meeting up.

Just to clear it up for @TonyP and yourself, if you believe there is money to made running these types of events, you are pretty far off the mark. Year 1-7 of HIH has been net revenue neutral. The money you see exchange hands is covering costs. Our event brings everyone together for 3-4 full days @ 1 site, there are very few of our 200 plus attendees that stay in hotels. Space for that costs money, space requires infrastructure (toilets, showers) and those cost money. The shirts, hoodies, hats, etc. also have a cost. Unless you are buying 1000 plus of these types of items, you aren't making money on them. We also carry insurance = $$$$, pay the forest service/BLM for permitting costs, etc. Lastly, we have the best raffle for an event even remotely close to our size (thanks to vendors who come to our event and love it). Stan and I do not even take a raffle ticket, ever.

HIH speaks for itself really. We started with 4 trucks meeting up for fun and it has organically grown into an event that people get excited about. Sure, it can't be exactly the same as it was with 5-10 trucks, but from the feedback we get, it isn't that far off.

It's also a lot of work, so good luck with whatever you end up doing. thx

@paflytyer and I are already planning HIH8, send us your address and we can get you a sticker. :)

thx @BuckeyeFan for the kind words.

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't saying you personally were profiting just that I know for a fact that large enthusiast gatherings like these can bring in a profit for the organizers. I left a "automotive based club" due to that very reason. But again, I don't know anything about HIH personally, just hearsay which is like the telephone game, by the time it gets around the forums, the consensus is the HIH organizers killed Jimmy Hoffa. :)
 
Baja sounds like an adventure I can get behind!

As for LCDC, I'm in if it's friends on this site saying "let's meet here and wheel" -- which is literally how all of this started.

But I'm out if/when the event gets too big, involves registration, insurance, paying in advance, etc. Everyone I know that I've met and become friends with from LCDC is awesome - but too many trucks on a trail, too many cooks in the kitchen organizing and too many different layers of bureaucracy is not of any interest to me.


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