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Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
35" BFG MT's on a Low Height OME Lifted 80
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spartan said:
Mall cruiser would be 6" of lift with 33" tires. The trend for trail rigs is less lift, more tire. That whole CG thing.
My Mickey Thompson MTZ's 315's fit with no lift whatsoever. Just 1-1/4" bumpstop spacers in the rear - only problem was on rough OK roads was bouncing off the bumpstops all the time with stock springs and shocks.
Speaking of mall cruisers, I saw a Ford F350 a while back that had to be jacked up at least 24" or more. It had 40" tires but some kind of weird brackets on the front end going horizontally from front axle to front axle that were at the very most about 6" above the ground. I was told the truck gets about 4 miles per imperial gallon! And has never been off road. Ouch.
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Mall Rigs, Man does New York have Mall Rigs. As a matter of fact these trucks are never offroaded at all they just drive around wearing out there tires every 2 months. Its a pisser!! My truck i actually use for the beach and Excursions etc... Just did Montauk around the lighthouse and all the way up iland to west hampton on the beach, i love these tires, they are like sand paddles... I do rub on the back wheel wells when i hit some whoops on the beach but i just got my 30mm spacers from Man-A-Fre and am planning on installing them tomorrow or later today. I took a picture of my rig with my GF's camera i will post it tonoght.
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spartan said:
spartan said:
Seriously no offense, but are you contradicting yourself?? Or what am I missing?
Here is my real-world pics:
1st/2nd is 33's on a saggy 14 year old factory suspension before and after the OME medium 2" lift. Rode 33's before the lift for a few months.
3rd pic is of 35's on the 2" OME medium. Rode this way a few months
4th is 35's (all 4 now matching) on J lift with 2" coil spacer up front
In all scenarios I wheeled, and wheeled the crap out of it, all's i get is inner fender rub because I haven't lowered my bump stops. A 35 will stuff no matter the lift, you only need bump stops to prevent the rub.
spartan said:
Yes Trend. It used to be on Jeeps and lot of other rigs, (FJ40's included), you had to run X amount of lift for X amount of tire. And I'm sure that's how you did it in 1977. I'm guessing you didn't have tube fenders back then that gain you a couple inches or more tire without any lift at all. Didn't see rigs back halfed to gain tire clearance without more lift in 1977 either. If you have a picture of a Land Cruiser (don't know if you incorrectly made it one word back then too) taken in 1977, with tube fenders, and a tappered rear end, I'd really like to see it. Oh, wait, did they have tires bigger than 35's in 1977?
I think the next trend might be toward not contradicting yourself spartan.
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Nope. I do not have the correct lift as I'm still running the 2" medium shocks, not the L's. Articulation sucks for me. I have configred the shocks to add an inch of travel though.
35's worked great on the 2" lift and would have never went to J's had it not been for a friend who gave them to me in exchange for my 2" lift (Heckler).
i will not take offense to the comments about ditches and not hard trails since it wasn't about me. I take my wagon all over the place and wheel it beyond it's limit as anyone who has been with me will pay witness (and there's alot on this board who I've wheeled with). I am among the few in the Cruiser crowd who show up to non-yota events and pay no attention to the umpteen-hundred jeeps that can't make the lines I make. I even went out to a local spot and got stuck last night teetering on my homemade sliders (that was fun).
Anyway, I've always been an advocate of "try it and see" as anyone can look back at my posts. I'm from South Alabama and don't make much money so I make my own things when I can. I always try to spend as little as possible meaning sometimes luxury parts like the "correct" lift gets left off or I buy it in pieces. I buy everything used; tires, lifts, bumpers, etc.
Wanna try 35's on a stock suspension with maybe Mr Gasket spacers on all 4 corners? "Try it and see". I'd love to hear feedback on it. I already know you can wheel 33's on a stock suspension....
35's worked great on the 2" lift and would have never went to J's had it not been for a friend who gave them to me in exchange for my 2" lift (Heckler).
i will not take offense to the comments about ditches and not hard trails since it wasn't about me. I take my wagon all over the place and wheel it beyond it's limit as anyone who has been with me will pay witness (and there's alot on this board who I've wheeled with). I am among the few in the Cruiser crowd who show up to non-yota events and pay no attention to the umpteen-hundred jeeps that can't make the lines I make. I even went out to a local spot and got stuck last night teetering on my homemade sliders (that was fun).
Anyway, I've always been an advocate of "try it and see" as anyone can look back at my posts. I'm from South Alabama and don't make much money so I make my own things when I can. I always try to spend as little as possible meaning sometimes luxury parts like the "correct" lift gets left off or I buy it in pieces. I buy everything used; tires, lifts, bumpers, etc.
Wanna try 35's on a stock suspension with maybe Mr Gasket spacers on all 4 corners? "Try it and see". I'd love to hear feedback on it. I already know you can wheel 33's on a stock suspension....
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NorCalDoug said:
lower bump stops . ?
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Here she is, i do not need to regear at all, the stock gearing turns these babys just fine.... First test run on the beach in Montauk point, took the beach from the point to west hampton, no problem.
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I actually like the look of the tires filling the wheel well. I think mine looked better after the 315's and before the J's.
spartan said:
Wow. I'm so glad you used the F word. That certainly proves your right. - oh, except your not. If you want to stick with the facts, the only thing that's going to keep your tires from rubbing is bumpstops, or bottoming out the shocks. If you were to run L's, bumpstop spacers, 35's and stock springs, you'd still achieve Y articulation. It'd ride like crap at speed over any little bump cause you'd be bouncing off the bump stops (jeeze, did someone already say that?), but you'd still have the same available articulation as J's with L's and bump stops. But hey, it satisfies x=y(z).
Oh, and I think Disney counts as a real off road trail.
Sorry this is your last comment on the subject, was really looking forward to the cerca 1977 photo of a 40 with tube fenders and 38's.
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Spydaz said:
Daaang them some big tires.
If you find that you would like an extra inch or so of clearance, Mr. Gasket would be a solution. I have similar up front (as so do alot of people) to rid my ewagon of the stink bug approach and a friend has them in the rear. They work well especially for the price. I use the Autozone versions that come in singles for $7 each. You would not need to replace your shocks either.
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Land: I am having the 30mm Spacers from man-a-fre installed for the rear as we speak. I hope she does not come out with the stinkbug, i don't think she will. Extra inch on the rear springs should not make a stinkbug should it??
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Spydaz said:
You'd be surprised what an inch will do... but it'll look good
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Nice, well just got it back and it looks awesome!!!! No Stink bug!!!! No Rubbing in the rear!!!
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FirstToy said:
way to go . !
pretty nice 80 .. !
Unless you lowered the bumpstops, I will predict you will still rub in similar situations that you did before the spacers.Spydaz said:
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Can't really lower the bumpstops on factory ride height... I mean they could but then the stops would be hitting while traveling over small bumps.
I guess they could be lowered as much as is gained in lift though.
I guess they could be lowered as much as is gained in lift though.
Agree, just saying that without lowered bumstops, the tires will likely still rub, as there is really nothing to prevent it, travel would be very limited w/out lift. Basically the 35's will likely still rub w/out lift and lowered bumpstops, in similar situations.Land Speeder said:
