315 Best Tires?

[ROLDS]

Ok... I have read and searched a few posts on what the best 315 tires are but am wondering what everyone had today?

My goal is to have a long lasting tire that will work on the highway and offroad with limited tire noise. Really want 315's.

I assume this was probably everyone elses goal was but I am looking to answer the following questions:
1) What do you have and what size?
3) How much did you pay?
3) How are they on the highway and offroad?
4) Any road noise?
5) Your personal opinion?

I didn't see any posts with this information. I am in the market for something. Was looking at Yokohama Geolander M/T Plus but the reviews said low tread life and loud. Also looking at Copper Discover.

 

[Firedog]

1) Toyo MT's 315
2) $986.12
3) Great so far, I really like them offroad (in the blue ridge mountains)
4) Some road noise, not too bad - it will probably get worse as they wear
5) One of the best tires I have ever had for the type of wheeling I do (wooded mountains, rocks). I currently have about 7000 miles on them and they appear to be wearing slowly.

 

[Skillet]

Here is my thread from a couple of months ago.

I still have not bought any.

 

[kpudden]

Just bought 315 KM2's...too early to cast vote, but i paid 1030 OTD after some haggling. Noise is significantly louder than stock Michelins, but hey, these are MUDS and look awesome! Hope they wear good, but only time will tell.

 

[Nay]

I have run trxus MT's for years and have loved them, but they are a poor high speed >75 mph road tire. Awesome for everything else, but they wear pretty quickly. Very quiet for an MT.

I have a set of Toyo MT's on their way this week in a 315 - I've been looking at the Toyos for a long time and my only concern was how they would compare to the exceptional winter performance of the Trxus on everything but black ice. I will have the center section siped for my heavy winter use, the local guys all rate the Toyo well for winter.

My goal is to get more treadlife and have a tire that stays round throughout it's useful life - I typically sell tires at about 50% tread, and with the Toyos hope to get a bit more out of them, ultimately making the more expensive upfront Toyo have a lower total cost of ownership than the Trxus.

If I didn't deal with snow I think I'd try the BFG KM2.

If I was going 37's, it would be the Discoverer STT in 37x17x12.5.

To summarize:

1) You don't drive fast on the highway and don't daily drive, want a heavy duty offroad tire that is quiet and works well in all offroad conditions except probably gumbo mud, and deal with a lot of variable winter conditions: Trxus MT.

2) You want all of the above in #1 but are also concerned with treadlife and Interco tire quality and like to drive >75 mph: Toyo MT (siped) or Cooper Discoverer if you can't afford the Toyo. I'll be reporting back my winter impressions, the longer Toyo treadlife makes me think I'm going to be giving up something to the Trxus in winter performance, but we'll see with siping.

3) You don't deal with too much winter and want an aggressive rock crawling tire that is onroad friendly: BFG MT KM2.

4) You like to be different for no good reason: Mickey Thompson / Dick Cepek.

5) You really don't need an MT and aren't going to like how they wear over time: Nitto Terra Grappler.

I'm putting my money on #5 for you

 

[d0ubledown]

ive got 315 bfg mt's...new style but not the KM2's. bought used. i previously had 315 MT/R's. the bfg's performed better in mud than the mt/r's and didnt wear as fast as they are a bit harder compound. on dry rock, the MT/R's were far superior though. MT/R's were louder than the bfg's...both were equal tread at about 75%. only thing i dont like about the bfg's are their poor sidewall reputation where they easily blow beads, and are prone to gashes by the slightest of rocks (at least from what i've seen anyway), where as the mt/r's have a very strong sidewall.

other choices you might want to look into are the hankook mt's which are pretty well priced and perform well from what i read. also cooper mt's, 35" interco trxus or radial SSR's. the toyos and intercos are quite abit heavier than the rest though, so if you;re not planning on regearing, it could be worse powerloss wise. the interco's measure a true 35 if not slightly more where the metric sizes are slightly under 35... YMMV

 

[Sanchez]

I just bought a set of toyo MTR, they are great. paid 1100 with the no questions asked insurance from 4WP. I love these tires. Not to much wheeling on them yet but lot's of peeps on this forum can chime in and tell you about the offroad capabilities.

as of now, low road noise and smooth on the pavement. These are the 315/75/16. My dad also runs these on his truck and he loves them. It was hard to convince a grumpy mexican to spend $1100 for tires, but once he tried them out he was sold. He even did a trip to mexico and he had nothing to say about them, (which is a great thing).

-Juan

 

[CreeperSleeper]

1) Toyo MT's 315
2) $986.12
3) Great so far, I really like them offroad (in the blue ridge mountains)
4) Some road noise, not too bad - it will probably get worse as they wear
5) One of the best tires I have ever had for the type of wheeling I do (wooded mountains, rocks). I currently have about 7000 miles on them and they appear to be wearing slowly.

My findings with the tire are a little different:

1) Toyo MT's 315
2) Wedding gift
3) On road they are great! I've never balanced them, they have been smooth at 70mph on two different sets of wheels and they wear like iron. Off road, I have maybe a month out of the summer where I like (not love) them, the rest of the time they suck. Horrible in deep snow, even at 6 psi. If there is any mosture on the rock, it will not grip. I can't wait to get these tires off my truck!
4) I would say they are a little quiter than a BFG M/T, but not by much.
5) Was I clear on how much I hate these tires? My 80 is a wheeler. I rarely drive it on the street except to go wheeling/camping/hunting. I wouldn't hesitate to run these tires on my Tahoe (pavement pounder, occasional camp rig), but I kick myself for buying these as a wheeling tire. They worked really well until about 75%, now I don't even want to wheel 3 seasons out of the year.

 

[kpudden]

ive got 315 bfg mt's...new style but not the KM2's. bought used. i previously had 315 MT/R's. the bfg's performed better in mud than the mt/r's and didnt wear as fast as they are a bit harder compound. on dry rock, the MT/R's were far superior though. MT/R's were louder than the bfg's...both were equal tread at about 75%. only thing i dont like about the bfg's are their poor sidewall reputation where they easily blow beads, and are prone to gashes by the slightest of rocks (at least from what i've seen anyway), where as the mt/r's have a very strong sidewall.

other choices you might want to look into are the hankook mt's which are pretty well priced and perform well from what i read. also cooper mt's, 35" interco trxus or radial SSR's. the toyos and intercos are quite abit heavier than the rest though, so if you;re not planning on regearing, it could be worse powerloss wise. the interco's measure a true 35 if not slightly more where the metric sizes are slightly under 35... YMMV

KM2's sidewalls are at least 33% stronger than originals, not to mention they are much more aggressive. I will give them a good test on the rocks soon...
KYle

 

[Ebag333]

Ok... I have read and searched a few posts on what the best 315 tires are but am wondering what everyone had today?

My goal is to have a long lasting tire that will work on the highway and offroad with limited tire noise. Really want 315's.

I assume this was probably everyone elses goal was but I am looking to answer the following questions:
1) What do you have and what size?
3) How much did you pay?
3) How are they on the highway and offroad?
4) Any road noise?
5) Your personal opinion?

I didn't see any posts with this information. I am in the market for something. Was looking at Yokohama Geolander M/T Plus but the reviews said low tread life and loud. Also looking at Copper Discover.

For me, price was the biggest factor. 33" tires around here are pretty much the same $$$ regardless of brand. 35" tires skyrocket in price.

Basically I could have gotten any 33" I wanted for around (or under) $1k, which was my budget. On the other hand, most 35's were $300+ per tire (not including mounting/balancing/etc).

The other factor was I wanted to carry a full sized matching spare. This meant I was shopping for 5 tires instead of 4 (while keeping the same budget).

1) General Grabber AT2 (315)

3) $950 for 5, mounted

3) Highway they are excellent. I haven't had a chance to try them in snow, but I've tried them in many different terrains, gravel, rock, pavement, dust (so slick it might as well have been ice), and I'm very happy with them. I came from Toyo M/T's, and I've found that these grip just as well as the Toyo's did (at least at full pressure, I haven't had a chance to try any trails that required airing down yet). I am missing all of the weights on my drivers side front tire, and it still drives perfectly aside from a shudder when braking relatively hard. (Not having any caster correctiong probably doesn't help either.) I plan on ditching all of the wheel weights and using something like dynabeads (I will probably just use airsoft pellets at about 4 oz per tire).

4) Much quieter than the Toyo's were. I'm very happy with their road performance. Plus they were the only A/T or M/T tire I could find with a decent milage guarantee for them (60k miles).

5) I'm very happy. They have a very deep tread on them (much deeper than they Toyo's), which is nice. The way they are patterned is actually better than the Toyo's for mud as it'll throw it out easier (not that I play in mud). For snow purposes they are setup to have studs put in (there are two lines for studs, one on each side of the tire nearthe shoulder).

My only "complaint" about them is that they don't have the heavy sidewall tread that the Toyos. There is some sidewall tread there, but not near as much as the Toyo's. All in all it's a minor complaint for me.

 

[wfd175]

1) Toyo MT's 315
2) $986.12
3) Great so far, I really like them offroad (in the blue ridge mountains)
4) Some road noise, not too bad - it will probably get worse as they wear
5) One of the best tires I have ever had for the type of wheeling I do (wooded mountains, rocks). I currently have about 7000 miles on them and they appear to be wearing slowly.

Ditto. 12K miles on 2nd set. Really hold up well off road. Great road manners. A little pricey, but smooth as glass with minimal balancing is worth the $. 2nd set.

1st set were 33's. took off at 17k and were less than half worn only switched because I had the 35 itch.

 

[Nay]

My findings with the tire are a little different:

1) Toyo MT's 315
2) Wedding gift
3) On road they are great! I've never balanced them, they have been smooth at 70mph on two different sets of wheels and they wear like iron. Off road, I have maybe a month out of the summer where I like (not love) them, the rest of the time they suck. Horrible in deep snow, even at 6 psi. If there is any mosture on the rock, it will not grip. I can't wait to get these tires off my truck!
4) I would say they are a little quiter than a BFG M/T, but not by much.
5) Was I clear on how much I hate these tires? My 80 is a wheeler. I rarely drive it on the street except to go wheeling/camping/hunting. I wouldn't hesitate to run these tires on my Tahoe (pavement pounder, occasional camp rig), but I kick myself for buying these as a wheeling tire. They worked really well until about 75%, now I don't even want to wheel 3 seasons out of the year.

I'll be interested to see if I agree with you given how sticky my Trxus were. But you've got constant rain and mud, lots of moisture in your snow, I have dry conditions and dry (powder) snow.

The Toyo MT is an upscale of the MTR. It's going to be a rock tire, as in Southwestern rock tire, at its best. Never heard anybody say anything great about the MTR as a mud tire, either. I don't think any of these "all terrain MT's" would be terribly good in the PNW.

I hope I'm not disappointed, although if I am I'm sure I can sell these in a heartbeat and get another set of Trxus MT's and only lose about $20 a tire.

 

[Tools R Us]

My favorite is Nitto Terra Grapplers, great all around tire for desert terrain wheeling. I would have them now, but Toyo/Nitto doesn't make a tall skinny, so running Cooper STT in 37x12.5. Wheeling tires are very specific, what works well in the desert probably isn't the best for mud, etc. The best bet is to check with local wheelers to see what works on the local trails where you will be wheeling, hookup with a local club, go on some runs, etc.

 

[Tapage]

another vote for those wonderfull Toyo OC MT .. best MT ( are not a set of swampers ok .. ) that I had ever .. great on road manners ..

 

[snowcamo80]

I've been thinking of Maxxis Bighorns in 315s as a cost alternative to the popular brands mentioned. The Maxxis website does not mentioned how thick the sidewalls are but I'm guessing double. Any opinions first or second hand on these? Thanks.

 

[Nay]

My favorite is Nitto Terra Grapplers, great all around tire for desert terrain wheeling. I would have them now, but Toyo/Nitto doesn't make a tall skinny, so running Cooper STT in 37x12.5. Wheeling tires are very specific, what works well in the desert probably isn't the best for mud, etc. The best bet is to check with local wheelers to see what works on the local trails where you will be wheeling, hookup with a local club, go on some runs, etc.

I agree, for pure desert wheeling (limited or no snow) I'd be inclined to run a tall AT if it was available - the $$$ savings with the Nitto would make it an extremely high value tire. Winter keeps me in the MT far more than dry condition wheeling...good AT's can make excellent rock/sand tires if they are well designed.

I'm mostly interested to see how badly our new summer BFG KM2 buyers are going to hate winter

 

[Nay]

I've been thinking of Maxxis Bighorns in 315s as a cost alternative to the popular brands mentioned. The Maxxis website does not mentioned how thick the sidewalls are but I'm guessing double. Any opinions first or second hand on these? Thanks.

Double what?

 

[wakesetter]

I bought some hankook mt's about 6 months ago and I love them. Only $145 each (for 285's) and they are relatively quiet for a MT. Wearing great so far. good control on the road and great on rocks and in MUD> I have had BFG mt, brothers have Toyo, swampers, and coopers. I would buy the hankooks out of the bunch.

 

[Right Turn Clyde]

I'm facing this same question. Use: Utah wheeling, and Utah long hwy 70-75mph transit to wheeling.

Has anyone had the new BFG MT who had the MTR to compare? I have the latter and thought it poor in snow (though wasn't siped).


Note:
As a side note, my friend has raved for years about the Trxus. He is a finicky old guy who has to lock into Lo to get up his muddy, deep-rutted and snow (3'+) driveway. And he has raved on that tire for how it does in those conditions.

 

[Cj80cruiser]

Love my Maxxis Bighorns aka Summit Mud Dawgs