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Pretty sure they are quoting the toyota.com website, which is full of incorrect info on the LC250. I don't recall the exact number, but the specs that were briefly posted here from Techstream, was closer to the GX.
If the curb weight number all of these media outlets are quoting are incorrect, this is officially a clusterF#$!

Motortrend has curb weight at 5,050 lbs


Let's see some production vehicle stickers!
 
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Pretty sure they are quoting the toyota.com website, which is full of incorrect info on the LC250. I don't recall the exact number, but the specs that were briefly posted here from Techstream, was closer to the GX.
They [edit - the general "they", referring to the media contingent "reviewing" these vehicles"] are no longer journalists - but rather just echos of Toyota itself [edit - the Toyota press material paired with a test drive and witty dialogue]. A real journalist would have put one on a scale.
 
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They are no longer journalists - but rather just echos of Toyota itself. A real journalist would have put one on a scale.
That's a weird take. Out of all the things to care about in a review, the exact curb weight is not high up for me. The fact that they dune bashed it to the point of badly damaging the radiator should tell you they're not simply mouthpieces. Toyota saw this footage when you did, and they're waiting to find out if they've hurt their access to future cars. There are certainly mouthpiece YouTubers out there but Throttle House at least do a good job of driving impressions without pulling many punches about their feelings.
 
That's a weird take. Out of all the things to care about in a review, the exact curb weight is not high up for me. The fact that they dune bashed it to the point of badly damaging the radiator should tell you they're not simply mouthpieces. Toyota saw this footage when you did, and they're waiting to find out if they've hurt their access to future cars. There are certainly mouthpiece YouTubers out there but Throttle House at least do a good job of driving impressions without pulling many punches about their feelings.
I'm not sure my comment is a reply directly to that video. Sorry to confuse. [Edit - I clarified my statement above, if that helps]

That leap was impressively handled by the vehicle. I'm surprised the front suspension held up.
 
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I'm not sure my comment is a reply directly to that video. Sorry to confuse.

That leap was impressively handled by the vehicle. I'm surprised the front suspension held up.
All good. I guess I'm a little sensitive with these guys. They're one of the few car channels I watch due to their production quality, humor, and honest reviews. They remind me of old school Top Gear with their style.
 
All good. I guess I'm a little sensitive with these guys. They're one of the few car channels I watch due to their production quality, humor, and honest reviews. They remind me of old school Top Gear with their style.
They did quote the likely bad curb weight figure in their video.

But they did at least try to use it. It was good to see the failure of the battery to second row seat bump called out.

They had a camera on that hill they jumped. They should have seen the bump.
 
They did quote the likely bad curb weight figure in their video.

But they did at least try to use it. It was good to see the failure of the battery to second row seat bump called out.

They had a camera on that hill they jumped. They should have seen the bump.
Agreed on all that. Again, I couldn't care less about the curb weight thing, since that seems like information which Toyota can be relied upon in most cases. Regarding the bump, they could have had a trail car from their small team that set it up. Regardless, they're more on road guys, not so much off-road. Thomas actually does some competitive racing and is good at talking through the driving dynamics of sports cars.

At the end of the day, it's 70% entertainment, 30% valuable information, which is better than 70% garbage you get from a lot of the others.
 
Check out some of the videos in the picture thread. One YTuber did a great walkthrough with the truck on the lift for a base model.

It was very clean...all tucked up nicely and cleanly.

Toyota offers a third plate that covers the transfer case and other parts that are exposed..I've been trying to get details and pricing on that for a while.
If you're referring to the Car Care Nut, yeah, saw that and very helpful video. I thought the same too after watching which is why I was so surprised when I saw it in person. He highlights the transfer case, which is indeed tucked better, but doesn't talk about the muffler. Here's a front screen shot from that video. It's more obvious with rock rails fitted. I'll get a side view next time I'm at the dealer.

I've seen front and mid skid plates offered, but haven't seen one that would cover this section. Who knows, could be a total non-issue and certainly won't stop me buying one. I'll let you know if I rip it off. ;)

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Any ideas where this 600lb weight difference is coming from? That's a substantial amount, especially considering the LC is a hybrid. Are they potentially wrong on the weight?


The Lexus' are always heavier, but 600lbs seems a lot. 2011-2021 LX570s are 200-300lbs heavier than an LC200 of the same year. My understanding is that most of that weight is from the AHC (which the GX550 doesn't have) and extra sound damping mats, etc.

I would expect the GX550 to have more sound damping than the LC250, maybe a bit of weight from eKSS in the Overtrail, and certainly 100-200lbs in the third row seats (which are not available on the LC250).
 
GX550 is intended for use on Dirt Roads
Really?? Just go buy a Subaru Outback for that...

This is meant to be a detailed technical review. Learning together what the limits of this new vehicle might be. Some of us will be using it for far more than mall trips and dirt roads.
 
The Lexus' are always heavier, but 600lbs seems a lot. 2011-2021 LX570s are 200-300lbs heavier than an LC200 of the same year. My understanding is that most of that weight is from the AHC (which the GX550 doesn't have) and extra sound damping mats, etc.

I would expect the GX550 to have more sound damping than the LC250, maybe a bit of weight from eKSS in the Overtrail, and certainly 100-200lbs in the third row seats (which are not available on the LC250).
Bigger engine contributes to the weight difference of LC250 vs GX550. Bigger rear differential, too :)
 
Bigger engine contributes to the weight difference of LC250 vs GX550. Bigger rear differential, too :)

The LC250 has a hybrid drivetrain that offsets some of that. 600lbs just sounds extremely excessive. I wouldn't have blinked an eye at 200-300lbs, but I can't wrap my head around 600lbs.
 
The LC250 has a hybrid drivetrain that offsets some of that. 600lbs just sounds extremely excessive. I wouldn't have blinked an eye at 200-300lbs, but I can't wrap my head around 600lbs.
I’m suspecting the LC data is wrong.
 
You mean, it doesn't have a 20 INCH turning circle, or 3" less headroom than a 5th gen 4runner, or 9" less front leg room? The specs listed on Toyota.com are FUBAR. Shame we lost the TIS info, as that I believe.
Hammer + nail
 
If the Overtrail trims can't be had with 3 zone/roof vents that will be a huge miss. The roof HVAC vents in my 3 zone 460 have ended up being one of my favorite features because being hot sucks so having more air conditioners with more vents is just more better. It makes things so much nicer for 2nd row passengers and/or dogs in the cargo area. I would think that could be a deal breaker for a lot of people, unless the market for $80,000 luxury off roaders is entirely childless and dogless couples with no friends.
Agreed, and confirmed the top-of-the-line Overtrail+ has only the two center console vents for the back. No overhead vents, no cargo area vents. Super lame imo for a vehicle that price.
 
Very informative video. Well done. Watching that 200 break a diff or axles was a little painful....

One thing to keep in mind is that while the engine would be a little more wrung out under hard acceleration or heavy towing, that equates to far less than 5% of normal duty cycle of most drivers. For me, that type of activity is probably closer to 1% of my day-to-day driving. And honestly, running an engine hard isn't that "hard" on them if you don't abuse them with hot shutdowns, slamming gears, etc. Most guys towing travel trailers for a living spend 50% of their time hooked up to a trailer and pulling something and those guys easily get 500K+ on their trucks with minimal issues.

The more I read/watch about this 3.4 TT, the more I like it. Now if they'd just pair it with a battery pack in the GX550....
 
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Very informative video. Well done. Watching that 200 break a diff or axles was a little painful....

This actually brings up a good point. I haven't seen it listed, but do we have info on the GX550/LC250 front differential and CVs compared to 200 series, 5th gen 4runner, GX460, 5th gen Tacoma? We know the GX550 has the 9.5" diff vs the LC250 8.2" out back, but what about the front? These are heavy, powerful vehicles; hopefully they're running beefier setups sources from the Tundra/Sequoia.
 
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