2024 Lexus GX550 Detailed Technical Review | Is it Better? (1 Viewer)

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At 28:30… I thought the bit about the hitch being integrated (welded?) into the frame was interesting. No bolts. I stopped by a local dealer today and the new Tacoma appeared to be the same. Maybe this is how all the newer vehicles are set up. I don’t know. I guess the frame could be damaged either way, bolted on or not. Anyone know if the 200 or new Tundra is set up this way?
 
At 28:30… I thought the bit about the hitch being integrated (welded?) into the frame was interesting. No bolts. I stopped by a local dealer today and the new Tacoma appeared to be the same. Maybe this is how all the newer vehicles are set up. I don’t know. I guess the frame could be damaged either way, bolted on or not. Anyone know if the 200 or new Tundra is set up this way?

The 200 is setup that way (integrated) and has been since MY 2008 fwiw. While I agree that it could lead to further damage in a rear-end collision, it’s not proven to be an epidemic in the 200/570 & other models. You’ll see the same in other modern and upcoming Toyota platforms. I don’t recall on the 24 Tundra, I’ll look. I do agree that the hitch cover is silly, the 200’s is on par fwiw.
 
The 200 is setup that way (integrated) and has been since MY 2008 fwiw. While I agree that it could lead to further damage in a rear-end collision, it’s not proven to be an epidemic in the 200/570 & other models. You’ll see the same in other modern and upcoming Toyota platforms. I don’t recall on the 24 Tundra, I’ll look. I do agree that the hitch cover is silly, the 200’s is on par fwiw.
While the 200's hitch cover has the same stupid push pins, the cover itself is better integrated and not as ugly. It's still a pain to remove, though.
 
While the 200's hitch cover has the same stupid push pins, the cover itself is better integrated and not as ugly. It's still a pain to remove, though.

Agreed. The LC250 cover is improved fwiw.
 

Thank you OP. I watched it last night. Not all of it. All the mechanical sections yes, and fast forward his outside and inside review only stoping in some small sections. I learned a lot. ! 🙏🏿👌🏿.

Yes, that hitch space/area/design is kind of dumb specially the pins and hitch pin part, agreed with him. Hope one day he does his same assessment on the LC250. And also hope the preproduction models of the GX550 Trail and trail + were just that and the actual model does have AC vents in the top/roof... Waiting for those pics @cruiseroutfit 🤭😂👌🏿
 
If the Overtrail trims can't be had with 3 zone/roof vents that will be a huge miss. The roof HVAC vents in my 3 zone 460 have ended up being one of my favorite features because being hot sucks so having more air conditioners with more vents is just more better. It makes things so much nicer for 2nd row passengers and/or dogs in the cargo area. I would think that could be a deal breaker for a lot of people, unless the market for $80,000 luxury off roaders is entirely childless and dogless couples with no friends.
 
If the Overtrail trims can't be had with 3 zone/roof vents that will be a huge miss. The roof HVAC vents in my 3 zone 460 have ended up being one of my favorite features because being hot sucks so having more air conditioners with more vents is just more better. It makes things so much nicer for 2nd row passengers and/or dogs in the cargo area. I would think that could be a deal breaker for a lot of people, unless the market for $80,000 luxury off roaders is entirely childless and dogless couples with no friends.
I don't see the need, honestly. I've got I don't know how many zones in my 200. I can't remember the last time I used even the 2-zone feature. As long as there are vents to the second row, that's more than enough for me. It doesn't matter to me whether those vents are in the center console or overhead. Overhead vents are apparently significantly more expensive for the manufacturer.
 
I don't see the need, honestly. I've got I don't know how many zones in my 200. I can't remember the last time I used even the 2-zone feature. As long as there are vents to the second row, that's more than enough for me. It doesn't matter to me whether those vents are in the center console or overhead. Overhead vents are apparently significantly more expensive for the manufacturer.
Have you ever been in Florida in July and had to sit in the backseat of vehicle that has 2 puny vents coming out of the rear console?

It's also a matter of luxury and features; If I spend $80,000 on a Lexus I expect the Lexus to keep my passengers are comfortable as I am.
 
Have you ever been in Florida in July and had to sit in the backseat of vehicle that has 2 puny vents coming out of the rear console?

It's also a matter of luxury and features; If I spend $80,000 on a Lexus I expect the Lexus to keep my passengers are comfortable as I am.
I too am a HUGE fan of the 4-zone climate control in the 200. I believe all variants of the GX should have 3 zone (FR,FL, Rear) control but the vent placement is inconsistent based on trim level from the photos I've seen.
 
Have you ever been in Florida in July and had to sit in the backseat of vehicle that has 2 puny vents coming out of the rear console?
Yes. And it was just fine back there.
It's also a matter of luxury and features; If I spend $80,000 on a Lexus I expect the Lexus to keep my passengers are comfortable as I am.
I have been just as comfortable. I don't see the issue.
 
I too am a HUGE fan of the 4-zone climate control in the 200. I believe all variants of the GX should have 3 zone (FR,FL, Rear) control but the vent placement is inconsistent based on trim level from the photos I've seen.
Totally. And that's why as I have said before, I am thorn between the Land Cruiser LC250 (mid pack) and not able to just get the simpler and more utilitarian 1958, and the GX550 Overtrail (and +) with the eKDSS but -apparently- not AC roof vents. 😂 🤦🏿‍♀️
 
big takeaways: diffs- stronger ball bearings vs tapered bearings in the rear. And front diff-stronger side bearing. housing is thinner but triangulated from diff out.
-10spd trans gearing and keeping the rpms in low range throughout. Toyota shooting for longevity and less stress on motor via the trans vs displacment.
-waaay less low hanging fruit underneath. Tcase and everything all tucked up nicely....will make for easy addition of skidplates under tcase and less getting hung up on rocks if you do that sort of thing.
 
big takeaways: diffs- stronger ball bearings vs tapered bearings in the rear. And front diff-stronger side bearing. housing is thinner but triangulated from diff out.
-10spd trans gearing and keeping the rpms in low range throughout. Toyota shooting for longevity and less stress on motor via the trans vs displacment.
-waaay less low hanging fruit underneath. Tcase and everything all tucked up nicely....will make for easy addition of skidplates under tcase and less getting hung up on rocks if you do that sort of thing.
So I finally got to see the GX550 Overtrail in person yesterday. Overall I’m pleased with how it looks and drives. My one concern is what IS hanging low under the chassis. Both the muffler? (might be the cat converter because it’s so far forward, but it’s huge and low. Didn’t have time to examine more closely) and fuel tank sit 2-3 inches BELOW the side frame rails (though not below the cross member). Much lower than my LX which is nicely tucked. The model I saw had the stock rock rails which are clearly not intended to be sliders because they sit slightly above the frame. If you high centered a berm/rock ledge in this config I’d be seriously concerned about catching and tearing off the muffler.

Has anyone who’s seen the vehicle noticed this and share concerns?
 
imho the whole hitch-sitch is a nothingburger. People will be yanking out the spare tire.....chopping off the hitch/crossmember and relocating it all a whole notch higher and tucked in - to improve departure angles. By the looks of it.....theres a good chunk of clearance to be gained if people are going to be doing swingout tire racks/bumpers. I think it could probably all be left alone if you wanted to run 35s or 37s and some mild lift.

The other big takeaway is the form factor and power to weight ratio. Waaaaay better than the 200 to push bigger tires and the trans to make for smaller MPG hits with larger tires less need to regear for 35s.
 
So I finally got to see the GX550 Overtrail in person yesterday. Overall I’m pleased with how it looks and drives. My one concern is what IS hanging low under the chassis. Both the muffler? (might be the cat converter because it’s so far forward, but it’s huge and low. Didn’t have time to examine more closely) and fuel tank sit 2-3 inches BELOW the side frame rails (though not below the cross member). Much lower than my LX which is nicely tucked. The model I saw had the stock rock rails which are clearly not intended to be sliders because they sit slightly above the frame. If you high centered a berm/rock ledge in this config I’d be seriously concerned about catching and tearing off the muffler.

Has anyone who’s seen the vehicle noticed this and share concerns?
Check out some of the videos in the picture thread. One YTuber did a great walkthrough with the truck on the lift for a base model.

It was very clean...all tucked up nicely and cleanly.

Toyota offers a third plate that covers the transfer case and other parts that are exposed..I've been trying to get details and pricing on that for a while.
 
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From this video:

Any ideas where this 600lb weight difference is coming from? That's a substantial amount, especially considering the LC is a hybrid. Are they potentially wrong on the weight?
 
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From this video:

Any ideas where this 600lb weight difference is coming from? That's a substantial amount, especially considering the LC is a hybrid. Are they potentially wrong on the weight?

Pretty sure they are quoting the toyota.com website, which is full of incorrect info on the LC250. I don't recall the exact number, but the specs that were briefly posted here from Techstream, was closer to the GX.
 

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