2024 GX wait list

[Specialeyes]

I went the other way, from an '03 V8 4Runner to a '13 200. Things I like about the 200: more power, quieter, and more comfortable. Things I don't like about the 200: wider so harder to get in and out in the tight parking garage at work. Bigger than I need and the third row seats that I don't use take up cargo space (yes, I could remove them but then have to deal with the holes in the sidewalls). The 200's fuel economy is horrifically bad (yes, I knew that going in). And I wish the head unit supported CarPlay.

The 5th gen 4Runner was a better size for me, but the powertrain was a deal killer. I test drove the 2016 GX, but the third row killed the cargo capacity (60 cu ft with the 2nd and 3rd fow folded compared to 80 cu ft for the 4Runner), I hated the barn door, visibility out the back was bad, and I found the seat bottom cushions to be uncomfortable. YMMV.

I test drove multiple 200's and GX460's over the last 9 or so months and both of them felt SO much better to drive than my 5th gen. Everything from power delivery to handling and road noise. Based on my use case and the value proposition I thought I had my mind made up to go with a '23 GX Blackline in Nori Green until they went and slapped those boulder gray seats inside. Ultimately I could not get a GX in the exact spec I wanted so this swung me back around to the 200. I did not need or want a third row which narrowed things down to specifically a Heritage Edition. From there it has just been a matter of trying to find what I felt like was a fair deal on one. (market is nuts on them as I'm sure you're aware)

No carplay sucks but I will try one of the aftermarket kits and see how I get on with that. (probably Grom since they are based near me in Plano) Fuel mileage is bad yes but I previously owned a Tundra with the 5.7 which averaged 13-14 mpg and honestly my 4R does not do much better at 14-15 average on a good day. (My range on a tank in the 4R is around 270-300 miles) I figure if I end up not liking the 200 I will be able to get out of it fairly easily and not take too bad a haircut. There is reason to be excited about what is coming out in the next couple of years from Toyo/Lex but as for now I am looking forward to spending some time with a proven, legendary platform so I can find out for myself if it's "the one".

 

[Gazziza]

So it’s as long and as wide as a LC200, but with 30
Less HP and 80 more lbft of torque, a rear locker and EKDSS. The Twin Turbo’s will perform better at 8,9,10k feet but at boulder CO. Exact same HP. Lol. They made a LC 200 and called it a GX and slapped a rear locker and 14”
Screen on it!

I mean that's not exactly a bad thing

 

[Gazziza]

Toyota knows the reason the 4Runner sells so well is because the customers prefer the 5 speed and 4.0. The 4Runner crowd knows that won't continue for the 6th generation. I doubt many from that crowd are thrilled about the new engine. I believe Toyota also knows that most 4Runner owners aspired to own a 200 and some purchased both. It's the name, Land Cruiser. I don't think those owners will miss the 4Runner if they know they can finally purchase their dream at a much cheaper price than $86,000. It will bring the Land Cruiser name back where it belongs, competing with Wrangler, Bronco, and Defender. Might call my dealer.

Going to say a HELL NO to that. I had two 5th gen 4Runners and multiple non-4Runner people that drove them complained about the powertrain. The % of owners that actually know what kind of engine and transmission is in the 4R is very little. The enthusiast market is accounts for a small part of sales. The great majority of 4R sales goes to casuals that bought the vehicle because of Toyota marketing and IG. The 4R definitely marketed as an adventure lifestyle vehicle and that's what people want. At least they dream of living that life.

 

[Patassa]

Sorry, but you're wrong. The Ford F-150 Supercrew 4x4 is over 5,000 lbs. EPA combined rating is over 20 mpg.

Le sigh.

The new GX is similar in size to the 100/200 series LCs, which weigh 5400-5800 lbs, old LX was 6000 lbs. Old GX weighs around 5200 lbs. New LX weighs 5600-5900 lbs.
The GX has grown quite a bit from the old one, probably safe assumption it's over 5500 lbs, that's 500 lbs heavier than your F150 example + it's full time AWD unlike your F150.

 

[stridertexas]

The current GX seems to top out around $70k, so $90k would be a huge jump. I don't think it will be that high, but time will tell.

So a fully loaded GX is like $75k.

My guess is just inflation pricing adjustment would push that to $80k at minimum. Then you add on special colors, massaging seats, “off road pkgs” etc and I think it’s real easy to get one to $90k.

My guess is a typical GX will now be at least $70-75k…

But that’s like just my opinion man ; )

 

[Specialeyes]

The 4R definitely marketed as an adventure lifestyle vehicle and that's what people want. At least they dream of living that life.

I tried to live that life in my first few months of ownership but I admit the 4R for me was not very comfortable on long road trips. I made it as far as Kansas City that first year I had it along with a handful of trips to various parts of Arkansas for mountain biking. Any drive longer than 3 hours sucked in the 4R, thankfully it usually ran out of gas by then so I would have to stop and refuel and stretch. I love traveling and thought I would do more road trips when I first got the 4R but honestly anything outside of 4-6 hours and I'd still rather fly. Hoping the 200 is more comfy on those longer journeys as I'd love to load the bikes up and hit some trails in Colorado, Utah, and Arizona among other places.

 

[jeremy j]

You're comparing rwd and lighter trucks to an AWD heavier SUV? Do you expect the laws of physics to magically bend here? Also this new GX is roughly the size of the old 200 series, or at least the size of my 100 series. Not exactly "mid sized". The Tacoma and 4Runner are mid sized.

Can we compare it to a 4WD Tahoe? The 6 cyl 4wd Tahoe is rated as 22 combined. I realize this isn't a perfect comparison as the Tahoe 6cyl is not nearly as powerful.

MPG isn't my biggest concern, reliability is. That being said, if we aren't really imporving MPG, then I'd rather have the relative simplicity of a NA V8. All that extra power is nice but I really don't need it.

All that being said, I really like the new GX and will be watching for when the prices come down for used models and any reliability bugs are worked out.

 

[Roc14]

When fullsize pickup trucks get better fuel economy than a midsize SUV, yes, they blew it.

Exactly! Have a Ram 2500 and get 21 mpg on the highway.

 

[on the rocks]

Earth tone not your thing. Multiple Overtrail options. One of the better videos I have see comparing color options inside and out, seat layout options, wheel size and looks, much more. Seems to be consistent with the info released in their press release package direct from Lexus.

The 2024 GX will be offered in 11 exterior color options depending on grade: Eminent White Pearl, Nebula Gray Pearl, Atomic Silver, GX-first Incognito, Caviar, Nori Green Pearl, Nightfall Mica. The Overtrail and Overtrail+ grades will offer exclusive bi-tone exterior color combinations including Atomic Silver/Black Roof, Incognito/Black Roof, Nori Green Pearl/Black Roof, and Lexus-first Earth/Black Roof. Few I couldn't fit on here.

 

[Roc14]

Unfortunately, in many parts of the US (including here in the Northeast), diesel is so much more expensive than gas that it negates any fuel economy savings. In addition, diesels require very expensive high pressure fuel injection systems and exhaust treatment systems. These fuel injection and exhaust treatment systems have had significant reliability issues.

We are not going to see a Toyota diesel in the US anytime soon.

Most of the new cars require supreme gas vs regular. Have a Ram 2500 and get 21 mpg vs gas pick ups getting 13 mpg. Diesel on the West Coast at times can be found cheaper than regular. Won't get into politics here, but diesel should never be more than gasoline.

 

[SteadfastRocky]

Earth tone not your thing. Multiple Overtrail options. One of the better videos I have see comparing color options inside and out. Seems to be consistent with the info released in their press release package direct from Lexus.

The 2024 GX will be offered in 11 exterior color options depending on grade: Eminent White Pearl, Nebula Gray Pearl, Atomic Silver, GX-first Incognito, Caviar, Nori Green Pearl, Nightfall Mica. The Overtrail and Overtrail+ grades will offer exclusive bi-tone exterior color combinations including Atomic Silver/Black Roof, Incognito/Black Roof, Nori Green Pearl/Black Roof, and Lexus-first Earth/Black Roof. Few I couldn't fit on here.
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id like the UN spec please

 

[Roc14]

You're comparing rwd and lighter trucks to an AWD heavier SUV? Do you expect the laws of physics to magically bend here? Also this new GX is roughly the size of the old 200 series, or at least the size of my 100 series. Not exactly "mid sized". The Tacoma and 4Runner are mid sized.

Have a Ram 2500 diesel 21 mpg on the highway cruising. Lifted with 35's. These heavy suvs should have a diesel option. More torque less hp is always better imo.

 

[AnyMal]

Man, I took a little forum break but sheeeeesh.
That did not look like what I thought it should look like at all.

I have mixed feelings, but I will say they finally woke up, and grew up a bit over there at Lexus / Toyota. (wheel offsets are finally flush-ish)
Then they immediately passed the design teams deliverable to the nearest child. lol

I knew the GX would grow, but at this point Im not sure how I feel about it.
I was wrong on a couple of things though...

1) I didn't think the targeted segment / demo would move down market (bronco), VERY BAD MOVE IMO
2) Or that the design would move to be so utilitarian, (not that I necessarily hate it, but this is the opposite of classy / luxury)
3) And neither that they would choose the Lexus badge to get a long rumored overtrail trim? Or what is over-trail, trial hunter etc etc anyway?
4) What in the world does this mean for the 4R now? The TRD will be some kind of monster? Or will they bring the LC badge into a trim?

Very interesting decisions were made here. VERY interesting, and honestly messy as ****.

Also, No Pano roof, so, immediately,

 

[nautiquelover]

Man, I took a little forum break but sheeeeesh.
That did not look like what I thought it should look like at all.

I have mixed feelings, but I will say they finally woke up, and grew up a bit over there at Lexus / Toyota. (wheel offsets are finally flush-ish)
Then they immediately passed the design teams deliverable to the nearest child. lol

I knew the GX would grow, but at this point Im not sure how I feel about it.
I was wrong on a couple of things though...

1) I didn't think the targeted segment / demo would move down market (bronco), VERY BAD MOVE IMO
2) Or that the design would move to be so utilitarian, (not that I necessarily hate it, but this is the opposite of classy / luxury)
3) And neither that they would choose the Lexus badge to get a long rumored overtrail trim? Or what is over-trail, trial hunter etc etc anyway?
4) What in the world does this mean for the 4R now? The TRD will be some kind of monster? Or will they bring the LC badge into a trim?

Very interesting decisions were made here. VERY interesting, and honestly messy as f***.

Also, No Pano roof, so, immediately,
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I disagree. I don’t think the targeted demo moved downstream at all. The GX still offers the typical luxury ride and look that Lexus is know for, they just happen to have an off-road looking trim they added to appeal to the crowd that wants that. The luxury versions are still there and are going to be popular as well.

I personally don’t like panoramic sunroofs so I’m kind of happy they decided to keep it regular.

 

[r2m]

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Off to a good start!
But not quite there yet.

 

[on the rocks]

Also, No Pano roof, so, immediately,

no? See 11:35 in on post 329. I wouldn't rule it out.

 

[AnyMal]

I disagree. I don’t think the targeted demo moved downstream at all. The GX still offers the typical luxury ride and look that Lexus is know for, they just happen to have an off-road looking trim they added to appeal to the crowd that wants that. The luxury versions are still there and are going to be popular as well.

I personally don’t like panoramic sunroofs so I’m kind of happy they decided to keep it regular.

There are many of you no pano roof heathens here, no doubt. LOL. I guuesss thats a matter of personal preference?
Im still wayyyyy out though.

As far as the other comment, i have to disagree. This truck is obviously leaning the opposite direction that the LX refresh leaned.
We need not argue about that. Least i need to take another 3 week forum break after day one. haha

 

[AnyMal]

no? See 11:35 in on post 329. I wouldn't rule it out.
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[r2m]

## pros
* increase storage volume
* fold flat floor (hopefully the seats can be secured in place)
* 2 row model
* more power
* better off road angles
* larger tires
* rear locker
* styling
* stock AT tire

## cons
* ac vents
* dimensions (bigger isn't better on tight trails)

overall i would buy it. hopefully they are not outlawed in ca in 2040. given the larger size i would consider the lx in an overtrail spec.

the gas mileage is a non-issue for me.

The larger dim's are my BIGGEST concerns considering we do trails often.
Going a wee bit bigger is fine so long as the new 4R's get the same dimensions and the Jeeps continue to grow a little too.
If all the trail rigs begin to grow, then off road clubs will start making the trails a little wider.
That's basically what has happened already. Originally off road trails were for Jeeps, not the new jeeps, I'm talking about 1940's and 1950's Jeeps when they were the size of little Suzuki Samurai's. As the vehicles grew, so too did the trails.

 

[LCHOU]

no? See 11:35 in on post 329. I wouldn't rule it out.
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