Nice, direct, and quick review. Lots of info here, thank you !
Here come the reviews!! Claims of mid $50K entry level pricing.
True. Probably more mid to high $50ks.
Toyota listened. The base model 250 is a winning combo:
- Cloth manual seats, basic no-bulls*** interior
- Center and rear lockers
- Spartan overall aesthetic
- Hybrid power train (hopefully efficiency, range)
- $50,000 or so price point (according to Driving Sports review above)
Only two trims, plus a special edition which will have round lights too, extra expensive interior, and will cost more.
The round light model is the base model. The top two trims have the rectangle lights.
I think this one will be like the 80: Just tires, get rid of the sliders, and. bum ! You got your self a much better and nicer looking truck !
After watching the reveal and a couple of YouTube commentaries there is more that I like rather than dislike about it. I like the styling overall and it will only look better with a tasteful lift and tires. I’m docking points for all of the plastic cladding… just makes it look cheap IMO. Happy to hear that it is shorter and narrower than the 200.
Interior looks nice in both base and premium models. Happy to see physical HVAC controls and a well integrated screen. Also glad they kept the vents in the ceiling. It looks to have good head room as well.
No tailgate makes me a sad panda. Jury is out on the hybrid 4 but if this thing ends up being as reliable and capable as they made it out to be in the official premiere then I think Toyota has done a good job and I would give them a passing grade.
I am not sure how many here have really owned T4R's. I don't know what teh new one will look like and only when on the streets, we should be able to compare them agaisnt the LC250.... but, in teh current models, the T4R's as GREAT of vehicles they are, they ain't GX, nor Prados, and no 200's. We shall see if the new 6th Gen T4R's are that differnt or not, than the LC250, and else.
Especially until we see the next 4Runner.
Again, time really will tell. MANY T4R's owners did not buy the LC because it was double the price (new vehicles), but really wanted them. Now that the prices would be closer, we need to see what difference it makes the LC250 vs the T4R. Some really never got the LC200's because it is not as nimble as the T4R's, but that is a smaller grouup.
Also I can definitely see this clashing with 4runner sales in the future.
Will the 4runner guys leave the 4runner to get the 250? They seem like a pretty loyal bunch.
I think for many, $20K or so difference, is a lot of money for just a motor. I am not sure where you live or have lived, but have you ever experience a Prado in say, Latin America? The Prados are EXCELLENT vehicles, and very capable. The GX here has been sold as Lexus just because, but really is a Prado, as you know, and it is indeed a very capable vehicle.... And in all the rest of the world, the Prado has carried the LC badge very proudly, so I think the LC250 should be a proud LC badge carrier.
GX looks way better and has a much better motor for not that much more money....will be interesting to see what happens with the 4R--that might be the fun new Toyota to go for. This looks ok but is disappointingly uninspired to carry the LC badge to me.
Like when you are looking for a E46 M3: Slicktop, cloths, manual seats. Difficult to find these days, and more expensive.! I agree with you. And agree with you , a great compliment to a 80; I am myself thinking not to sell my 80, and perhaps the 200 when I get my hands in the 250.
"Wool like" cloth manual seats, interior that I won't be afraid to jump into dirty, no sunroof, no fancy suspension, 8 speed auto instead of 10, rear and center locker standard, going to be sold and trusted around the world, almost like a work truck as far as materials in the door panels/center arm rest/steering wheel. Would compliment my 80 well.
