Events/Trails 200's in Breckenridge - Summer 2017

[Tremek]

One question of genuine curiosity:

Did anyone experience any mechanical failures? I know of one damaged (but not deflated) tire on a stock truck found Saturday AM, but that's all I heard of or saw...

I continue to be amazed at how much abuse these trucks will take with not so much as a new rattle afterward...

 

[OGBeno]

The build quality is impressive.

 

[TonyP]

One question of genuine curiosity:

Did anyone experience any mechanical failures? I know of one damaged (but not deflated) tire on a stock truck found Saturday AM, but that's all I heard of or saw...

I continue to be amazed at how much abuse these trucks will take with not so much as a new rattle afterward...

Snapped front axel shaft on Golden Crack. However, it wasn't an oem 200 part.

 

[Atwalz]

Sunday run to Peak 10.

 

[indycole]

One question of genuine curiosity:

Did anyone experience any mechanical failures? I know of one damaged (but not deflated) tire on a stock truck found Saturday AM, but that's all I heard of or saw...

I continue to be amazed at how much abuse these trucks will take with not so much as a new rattle afterward...

I had a sidewall pinch flat from Birdseye Gulch. No big deal. It was a 33" KO2 and I was running at 27 psi.

 

[Tremek]

Snapped front axel shaft on Golden Crack. However, it wasn't an oem 200 part.

That sucks Tony - I assume that was a major factor in the Moab-sucked comments? Sorry btw that I didn't get a chance to meet you (that I know of!) up in Breck.

 

[TonyP]

That sucks Tony - I assume that was a major factor in the Moab-sucked comments? Sorry btw that I didn't get a chance to meet you (that I know of!) up in Breck.

It wasn't my axel that snapped, it was @TexAZ with Tundra front suspension.

Yeah, we might have. I'm not really sure who I met there. It was a flurry of names and faces. I heard a good idea of using window markers and putting forum user names on the 200's window. Might help figuring out who's who next time.

 

[SchobTime]

a few stuffers from Chihuahua Gulch @Markuson @Ohnoitsbreaux @richxd87

 

[kevinfoutch]

A few photos from this past weekend -

Hoosier Pass @use2bn83 @TonyP @ethernectar @Romer @Markuson @codyaustin5 @indycole :

Mosquito Pass @TonyP @ethernectar @use2bn83 @codyaustin5 @Romer @Markuson (hidden):

Chihuahua Gulch @damdifino @The Woodz , Doug & Steve @ ARB, @sleeoffroad @mwm4211 :

Webster Pass @damdifino @SGT0311 @sleeoffroad @mwm4211 , Doug & Steve @ ARB, @The Woodz :

Birdseye Gulch @Romer @use2bn83 :

 

[mcgaskins]

Here's a time lapse of the crew coming down the last descent of Red Cone. Unfortunately it cuts off @TonyP at the end because of the idiot dirtbiker who decided to make a run up the hill as he was coming down. I had to put down the camera to call Tony on the radio then turn around and yell at the guy's moron friends for not asking us if the coast was clear before they went the wrong way up a one way trail. You can't fix stupid! Anyways here's the video:

 

[Markuson]

Here's a time lapse of the crew coming down the last descent of Red Cone. Unfortunately it cuts off @TonyP at the end because of the idiot dirtbiker who decided to make a run up the hill as he was coming down. I had to put down the camera to call Tony on the radio then turn around and yell at the guy's moron friends for not asking us if the coast was clear before they went the wrong way up a one way trail. You can't fix stupid! Anyways here's the video:

Wow! We descended a lot faster than I remembered...! Heehee

 

[ethernectar]

WHOAWHATTAWEEK! Home about an hour ago. Stay tuned for pics tomorrow. Here's a couple timelapse vids in the meantime

Webster Pass:
Saint Johns:

 

[Dan Higgins]

These timelapse vids are great. It gave me a feel for the trail as it looks like one I would like to do some time. I have a couple questions on that Saint John's trail. How is it for difficulty? Stock 200 without risk of body damage? Shelf sections? Steep sections? The trail description on All Trails mentions some steep sections. Was that on Saint John's or on a connecting trail? It looks like a relatively easy trail with some awesome views. So I might pop up there over the next couple of weeks and give it a go.

Thanks again for the vids.

 

[Yossarian]

I have a couple questions on that Saint John's trail. How is it for difficulty? Stock 200 without risk of body damage? Shelf sections? Steep sections? The trail description on All Trails mentions some steep sections. Was that on Saint John's or on a connecting trail? It looks like a relatively easy trail with some awesome views. So I might pop up there over the next couple of weeks and give it a go.

Thanks again for the vids.

There was one drop or shelf on Saint John's that was on a steep part. I made it through without a hit, but I am lifted, slightly. Dave with Toyota came through right behind me in a stock 2017, we talked after at the next stop and didn't mention any hits. FWIW.

 

[Dan Higgins]

Thanks

 

[lxid]

Amazing pictures, looks like a fun trip. Any insight on having all these 200s together on what made for the best mods? Any wheels/tires/suspension really stand out? How did the LX compare to the LC?

 

[TonyP]

Amazing pictures, looks like a fun trip. Any insight on having all these 200s together on what made for the best mods? Any wheels/tires/suspension really stand out? How did the LX compare to the LC?

It's all opinion, you'll get different answers from everyone. As long as you buy quality products you'll be fine as long as you buy the essentials first. If I were to build another 200, my order of mods:

1. Wheels/Tires (RWs and some decent A/Ts like Coopers)
2. Sliders
3. Rear Bumper
4. Front Bumper

Yes, rear bumper first.

 

[Markuson]

It's all opinion, you'll get different answers from everyone. As long as you buy quality products you'll be fine as long as you buy the essentials first. If I were to build another 200, my order of mods:

1. Wheels/Tires (RWs and some decent A/Ts like Coopers)
2. Sliders
3. Rear Bumper
4. Front Bumper

Yes, rear bumper first.

Agree with TonyP re rear bumper first (after sliders and ATs). In both Moab and Breck's more significant trails...the rear takes a massive beating. At least two after-market rear bumpers suffered damage (scrapes don't count as damage in my book...I mean bends that didn't bounce back), meaning a seriously stout rear bumper is worth the extra weight.

If wheeling alone? -That front bumper is important because a winch could be a biggie when alone. Front bumper also provides driving light mount points, critter strike protection (Yup...the guy who always talking about bull bars for critter strikes [me] struck a deer on a Moab highway...deer dead...LC...untouched due to stout TJM T13 bull bar...with only a bent license plate & Stedi light that had to be re-aimed!).

Finally... Seriously consider adding both rear control arm attachment guards, and rear shock mount guards! The rear control arm pivot point is a rare LC/LX weak point...and I discovered damage to mine in the process of installing armor prior to Moab trails.
I was testing units from BudBuilt in Moab and Breck, and when the final versions are released? -These will be perhaps THE most tested...beaten-to-death pieces of armor out there. More details are sure to follow on that later from BB...but some great developments are on the way!

 

[steenh]

Looks like this event was incredible, and of course waiting for the full release of photos that I know are coming! The pics from Moab and all of the trails in Breck have been fantastic, including the drone shots from @TonyP. I know I've made the right decision to move out there one day!

I'd put lift as #3 right after sliders. Then, I've always started with the rear bumper, and gone as high clearance as possible. That vid of @kreiten on the Crack shows that a low clearance steel rear would have made that obstacle much harder as you dragged the steel over the rock limiting tire traction. The "mods" you guys did to your stock rears gave you the clearance you needed to pull through relatively easily. Good driving didn't hurt! Hate that I missed both, but would really have loved being there for the Moab "hell" ride!

I am also planning to get almost all of BudBuilts armor... that stuff just looks so well thought out.

Kudos to everyone that put on this event... it will be the last one I miss.

 

[Canyonero]

Amazing pictures, looks like a fun trip. Any insight on having all these 200s together on what made for the best mods? Any wheels/tires/suspension really stand out? How did the LX compare to the LC?

If I were to start over on a build knowing what I know now, here's the build:

1) sliders
2) lift and 34" tires--Nitto ridge grapplers are the best tire I've ever owned. IMO the cheaper OME is the way to go--I've seen no tangible benefits on the expensive suspension setups (im willing to admit I could not have all the info, but my OME 2.5" lift has been fantastic in 2.5 years of hard wheeling.)
3) front bumper with winch-warn 9.5 or stronger. The warn 9.5 has been flawless for me. Synthetic winch line is a must.
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Those mods would get you anywhere (and back!) From there I would go:

4) rear tire carrier--not a full on rear bumper. The rear bumpers available only reduce your departure angle and add a lot of weight. Just scrape the factory plastic if you have to. If you want a rear bumper though, go with Slee--not ARB.
5) from here it's all gravy: more armor, rear locker, snorkel, onboard air, etc.