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[Guyute]

Ok, so back to today's scheduled programming... I KNOW I read somewhere that some people have issues with their rigs overheating... usually it is the PRADO's with the KZ motor in them, but I have read where some folks with the HZ have some issues with running too hot.

Thankfully this Land Cruiser was not one of them, but I have noticed, after intercooling the turbo, on a really hot day (30C+/86F+), with the AC running, and working the cruiser pretty hard (lot's of hill climbing while maintaining 120km/h, or pulling a trailer) the engine temperature starts climbing. What I figure is causing this is the simple fact that the RAD is now 3rd in line for the precious cooling wind coming at it through the front grill. The intercooler gets it first and this is quite noticeable as I can keep my foot into it and the EG's never seem to go above 1150F. Then the AC condenser is next in line for the air, and finally, after it has been twice warmed, the radiator is last in line.

For now, I can cope with this by turning off the AC and downshifting to raise the RPM's and lighten the right foot. But now on my radar will be a larger custom rad that would fit with the intercooler solution that I have put in. If anyone has some experience and wisdom and some real life results that would be splendid to hear! Thanks in advance!

Word. Dealing with this a bit too currently. Lotsa stuff in front of the radiator for sure. Last weekend I swapped the new blue hub fan clutch for a new modified orange hub clutch. Also took the opportunity to foam seal between the radiator and shroud. Definitely made a difference on a short trip over the same pass yesterday. It recovers quicker after hills and keeps the temps lower overall. Now have the blue, green and orange hub'd units on garage the shelf. Colorful! It is possible to modify the blue hub unit and add thicker viscosity oil to probably get you where the orange hub gets yah... but thought I may need to swap back for winters. So opted to just order another for my collection. Super long thread somewhere on the 80 series forum on modifying it.

Or >

HD Fan Clutches - https://landtankproducts.com/products/hd-fan-clutches?variant=37793069334694

- Brian

 

[JDM Journeys]

Ok, so back to today's scheduled programming... I KNOW I read somewhere that some people have issues with their rigs overheating... usually it is the PRADO's with the KZ motor in them, but I have read where some folks with the HZ have some issues with running too hot.

Thankfully this Land Cruiser was not one of them, but I have noticed, after intercooling the turbo, on a really hot day (30C+/86F+), with the AC running, and working the cruiser pretty hard (lot's of hill climbing while maintaining 120km/h, or pulling a trailer) the engine temperature starts climbing. What I figure is causing this is the simple fact that the RAD is now 3rd in line for the precious cooling wind coming at it through the front grill. The intercooler gets it first and this is quite noticeable as I can keep my foot into it and the EG's never seem to go above 1150F. Then the AC condenser is next in line for the air, and finally, after it has been twice warmed, the radiator is last in line.

For now, I can cope with this by turning off the AC and downshifting to raise the RPM's and lighten the right foot. But now on my radar will be a larger custom rad that would fit with the intercooler solution that I have put in. If anyone has some experience and wisdom and some real life results that would be splendid to hear! Thanks in advance!

Darren, I've been finding, even with the new rad and nothing in front of it, that on some of those long climbs (with no trailer, but NO TURBO LOL) mine is also getting a bit hotter than I'd like on these high 20s/low 30s summer days. I'm controlling the EGT's with my right foot and a lower gear of course, but sometimes the temps can still briefly rise just above the halfway mark. I'm thinking a real temp guage is a good idea, and maybe a new sender too. I suspected the fan clutch, but watching it after the engine is shut down, it stops pretty much immediately, so certainly seems to have fluid lock. I've been thinking about an electric fan as an auxiliary, for those long climbs... is that something you might have room for? Most of my past jdm's have had fans for the a/c AND the intercooler, and yet this one has neither...

 

[Gun Runner 5]

@JDM Journeys ….. “I'm thinking a real temp guage is a good idea”
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Food For Thought …… After just a few minutes of driving my factory temp gauge settles in around “halfway”. My Red Arc gauge will slowly climb into the low 80’s (C) and if pushed hard, with a/c on, will reach the low 90’s on occasion. Meanwhile the factory gauge never moves. (Not 1 needle width). For that reason alone I’d never fully trust the factory gauge.

 

[Rigster]

Hey gang!

I have been back for a couple of weeks now but have been so busy getting cleaned up and stuff sorted, cleaned and maintenance done. Not to mention family, kids, school and work demands. So I apologize now for being remiss with my new posts!

So I will at least post a couple of teaser photo's to get started and add to it as I have time in front of the computer.

The rest of the team and I were really planning to spend an entire week in a large area that only has a single access point and bridge through a narrow gap next to a raging river below. However, upon reaching the area just before the bridge, we discovered a huge gate in the way. We knew this was coming because the bridge right next to a cliff on one side and a sheer drop to the river on the other side, and the bridge decking is near the end of life, creating a liability. So the forestry service, rather than re-deck the bridge, put in a massive gate blocking all access... *sigh*

About 30 mins further down the highway at Trout Lake, we knew the area well, and would have decent camping right on the beach. So we decided to forgo the original plan and head there.

On the way there, crossing the ferry at Shelter Bay:

I have to say, the Cruiser behaved and drove amazingly well, though I will need to look at a high performance Radiator for the next upgrade. Also, we did a few kms on some pretty dusty roads, and coming home climbing some steeper hills at higher boost/RPM's I noticed sudden loss of power and boost, only to have it come back almost immediately. I thought I might have a boost hose leak, or perhaps the intake hose cavitating or something (fuel supply?) however, upon arriving home and blowing all the dust out of the air cleaner, that seems to have helped considerably. Otherwise the trip was incident free!!

More to come!

 

[Rigster]

So we camped right on the beach in Trout Lake for about a week and spent some time ATVing, Kayaking, and just generally relaxing and enjoying the peace and quiet.

From Trout Lake camp, we were as able to head out on several trips, some new areas, some old. The first day out, we climbed up into the alpine to get some nice views. We climbed about 6500ft up the mountain in about 10 mins to get some nice nice view of the lake and our camp site area:

 

[Rigster]

Next trip we went on was to take some folks up to the Triune mine site (silver copper, zinc) and on the way we stopped in and said hi at the CMH Galena heli skiing lodge. While we were there, a helicopter fighting some fires in the area stopped in to fuel up.

I was a little surprised to find out that the fillup was about 1000 litres for the Helicopter, and that only lasts about 2.5 - 3 hours before he would be back to fill up again. Suddenly my Land Cruiser looked like a hyper-efficient vehicle @19mpg

On we went to travel up the valley to head to the mine. This picture shows the trail up the valley we came up, this picture is of me standing at the mine entrance (behind us).

 

[Rigster]

Whew! Busy weekend... thus the delay in getting the trip picks up here. It was thanksgiving weekend here in Canada last weekend, so it was a busy time of family and events. One of which I had the pleasure of taking my kids to their first ever smash-up derby! There were 4 rounds, and went on for a good 3-4 hours.

It was fun and the lads kept talking about it for quite a while afterwards... I think they are hooked.

 

[Rigster]

Back to our main programming... here is the Triune mine we travelled to. You had to climb up the last couple of hundred feet to the entrance, as the mountain came down over the original trail towards the end.

The mine itself with an old mining cart near the entrance:

Inside (I could only go so far as the water gets deeper the further you go in):

Pretty kewl colors...

 

[Rigster]

After exploring the mine a little bit, I hiked back down and we had some lunch on the alpine meadow at the site of the old crew cookshack for the workers (now long collapsed)

Now you might be wondering why there are only 2 machines and 6 people in that picture... well, only one other person besides myself were comfortable with getting all the way up. I never try to push people beyond what they feel comfortable with, so they parked there machines and hiked up (I gave the one other lady besides my wife a ride up). This is one of the more challenging rides in the area, but the views are worth it! (And I actually prefer the more challenging and technical rides)

Taking advantage of the long summer sun at the high altitude:

Truly stunning country

 

[Rigster]

The following day, we had a rest day and hung out at the lake, did a little paddling, otherwise, just rested up - it WAS a vacation after all.

After our relaxation day, we packed up camp and headed south to the historic mining town of Sandon and up the mountain past there to Cody where we setup camp in the same place as last year. Below is a pic of us waiting for the others to catch up, we parked across the creek from Sandon before heading up the mountain to Cody (about another couple of thousand feet up)

On the way up!

setup at camp in Cody

 

[Rigster]

Following day after setting up in Cody, we decided to do some exploring in spots we had not been the previous year, checking some more old mine sites. This site was just above Sandon. Because it was fairly close to town, the building and mine entrance was locked off for safety and liability reasons

A peek through the crack in the doors to the mine showed an electric engine....

Here is a cart with a bashed up roof that the miners would ride in and out of the mine. If they jammed themselves in, you could probably get 10-12 people sitting in there

 

[mt72]

Nice picture in the wilderness

 

[Rigster]

The next day in Cody/Sandon area, we wanted to see how far we could get around the mountain on the old Kaslo Rail Line (K&S Rail Trail) as we noticed someone had taken great efforts to open up the trail again. We knew we would not get past Payne Bluff - when the railway was originally put in place in 1892(ish) the area past Payne Bluff was crossed when they built a trestle bridge along the side of the mountain. It was a precarious plan at the time and of course the old bridge collapsed a long long time ago, but we wanted to see if we could get there and see where the bridge went in for ourselves. However, the trail became impassable even for ATV's. The only way past that point and another 1/2 mile to Payne Bluff was on foot hiking.

However, we did get to see some fellows attempt at putting a mine in right next to the railway tracks:

The actual shaft is long ago collapsed

From the looks of the traill, that miner's shack would have been awfully close to the train as it went by..... keep your arms and legs in the train at all times!!

Brief history:

 

[mt72]

The next day in Cody/Sandon area, we wanted to see how far we could get around the mountain on the old Kaslo Rail Line (K&S Rail Trail) as we noticed someone had taken great efforts to open up the trail again. We knew we would not get past Payne Bluff - when the railway was originally put in place in 1892(ish) the area past Payne Bluff was crossed when they built a trestle bridge along the side of the mountain. It was a precarious plan at the time and of course the old bridge collapsed a long long time ago, but we wanted to see if we could get there and see where the bridge went in for ourselves. However, the trail became impassable even for ATV's. The only way past that point and another 1/2 mile to Payne Bluff was on foot hiking.

However, we did get to see some fellows attempt at putting a mine in right next to the railway tracks:
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The actual shaft is long ago collapsed
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From the looks of the traill, that miner's shack would have been awfully close to the train as it went by..... keep your arms and legs in the train at all times!!
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Brief history:
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Mining exploration is a risky Biz! you went up there in ATV?

 

[Rigster]

Mining exploration is a risky Biz! you went up there in ATV?

Yeah, I put the abuse on the ATV and use the Land Cruiser to get to some nice camping spots, and as a backup rescue vehicle. I could get most of the places we go with the Land Cruiser, just much slower, with additional patina afterwards as well.

When I have around $50,000+ invested in a vehicle, I like to look after it. That said, I DO use it for what it was made for, I am just very careful!

 

[mt72]

Yeah, I put the abuse on the ATV and use the Land Cruiser to get to some nice camping spots, and as a backup rescue vehicle. I could get most of the places we go with the Land Cruiser, just much slower, with additional patina afterwards as well.

When I have around $50,000+ invested in a vehicle, I like to look after it. That said, I DO use it for what it was made for, I am just very careful!

x1000 I would do the same very carfully

 

[Rigster]

With that idea/trail cut short, we decided to head over to an area we did not complete exploration on last year and checked out another mine:

 

[Rigster]

We also found what looks to be the site of an old steam sawmill... some old concrete foundation, and a massive boiler-like burn chamber where all the copper(? -- They are all missing so I am sure they were raided long ago for their value) some old gears, belts and pullies, as well as water source piping

 

[simonliew]

wher

I still have a fold down table to build, as well as a front cabinet and shelving in the v-nose to make it a little more homey, but overall it is coming along nicely...

I picked up this little beauty for trips:
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The nice thing is this is both a fridge and a freezer, and draws a nominal 3.7amps in eco mode. Now, my high efficiency solar panel puts out ideally (in direct sunlight) a little over 5.5amps so in theory, that is enough to power this little(big) unit AND still charge the onboard battery.

However, actual tests have shown that I need to add another panel to my system, as in cloudy conditions, the fridge WILL decimate the battery in about 2.5 days. The charger controller I picked up can take 3 100watt panels easily, so I already have picked up another panel, simply waiting for me to install it alongside the other and plug it in! Another test to follow...

where did you buy the iceco fridge?

 

[Rigster]

where did you buy the iceco fridge?

Hey bud,

At the time the best deal I could find was at wayfair.ca (Wayfair Canada - Online Home Store for Furniture, Decor, Outdoors & More - Wayfair Canada - https://www.wayfair.ca/appliances/pdp/iceco-freestanding-cooler-ieco1015.html )

Now when I picked it up, it was around $1200, now I see they have gone up almost $1000 and the same fridge is $2175

They go on sale once in a while, search around for the best deal, free shipping, etc