200 Series Tire and Wheel Size Database

[Northboundndown]

How about some more interesting sizes. An upgrade should increase both dimensions from stock. When GXs, 4Rs, and Tacos are fitting 285+ all day long, why is a 200-series fitting smaller tires? KDSS is not a limitation and can easily be worked around.

According to who? An upgrade doesn't have to translate into putting the biggest and widest tire under you truck. That sounds like something someone with a 4Runner or a Tacoma would say. For most people they come with far more drawbacks than benefits, if we're being honest.

Function > Form. Wide tires serve no real purpose where I live.

Besides it's not like we're posting the tires trying to show off for everyone. This in an informative thread for tire makes/models/sizes.

Let's love all tires equally

 

[LX4x4]

For me my LX already came with 275, I didn't feel like it needed another 1cm width for my use case, I have cornered it hard and never felt I wanted a wider tire (for my use case anyway). The cost to get 285 became an odd size, price goes up (x4 is quite a lot) , also on a less common tire size you usually will get older manufacture dated tire from the shelf. If the wider tire was same price then maybe I will go for it.

 

[TeCKis300]

You guys do you. Nothing wrong with that. If you're cost sensitive, on an $80k truck, you know your priorities.

The way this thread reads feels like there's only 1 size. There's a wealth of great options out there.

For the LX guys, a LT305/55R20 at 33.2"x12.4" is a breeze to drop in.

 

[Heckraiser]

Not to turn this thread into a debate or to knock anyone's opinion, but I found every aspect of my LX's character was improved by changing from 11" wide tires (285/75r18) to 12.5" wide tires (35x12.5). Ride was way improved. Handling (both roadholding and agility) way improved--and this is going to a smaller wheel diameter, which seems to defy logic, but it happened. Off-road traction and comfort improved because it's safer to air down lower with good bead retention. I'm a fan of wide tires

 

[TeCKis300]

Not to turn this thread into a debate or to knock anyone's opinion, but I found every aspect of my LX's character was improved by changing from 11" wide tires (285/75r18) to 12.5" wide tires (35x12.5). Ride was way improved. Handling (both roadholding and agility) way improved--and this is going to a smaller wheel diameter, which seems to defy logic, but it happened. I'm a fan of wide tires

There we go. I'm not looking to offend anyone. Trying to open the aperture in this thread particularly where new people come in looking for options and trades.

I'll acknowledge there's merits on both side.

 

[Northboundndown]

There we go. I'm not looking to offend anyone. Trying to open the aperture in this thread particularly where new people come in looking for options and trades.

I'll acknowledge there's merits on both side.

I'm not offended, and I do agree. I think some folks though read this thread and get the idea that they must get larger tires in order to make their trucks look good and go off road and have fun. So for the folks that don't want that, it's also important to highlight the closer-to-factory options as new tires come to market, because you don't need 35s, 34s, 33s, or hell even 32s to get out there and do most things or for your truck to look good. Boring because it's not a new size? Yeah maybe, but if this thread was strictly about tire sizes then it could have been locked a few years ago because it's all been done before at this point. I read all 128 (now 129) pages before settling on tire make/model and size.

 

[W4632018]

Not the best photos but here are the 275/65/18 SL Wildpeak AT4W. I do also have the front spring spacers installed. Initial impressions - smoother ride than the Michelin LTX AT/2 of the same size and also quieter, surprisingly. Can not comment on MPGs yet, have only driven around my own neighborhood so far but at 8lbs heavier per tire than the LTX I expect a very small decrease in fuel efficiency. I think the sizing is great for someone (like me) wanting an aggressive upgrade of stock size, but also with no rubbing and still plenty of wheel well, and these are $290/per compared to $445/tire to jump up to the 285/65/18. I have no regrets. View attachment 3622117View attachment 3622119View attachment 3622120

Fantastic! Yep they look great. I have AT3Ws and I love them but man the AT4W really upped the weight. Curious to hear how much MPG dropped?

 

[Supra Turbo]

I'm not offended, and I do agree. I think some folks though read this thread and get the idea that they must get larger tires in order to make their trucks look good...

I know its faulty logic, but I can't help to think "wider" tires when someone mentions "larger" tires.

Then I start thinking if my 93 Toyota two door hatchback can fit a 315 width tire, I automatically think the big LC must get at least 345s.

When I hear 275 on an LC, I can't help but think pizzacutters. I guess that's what happens when one spends 25+ years in the Supra and Viper communities

 

[Northboundndown]

Fantastic! Yep they look great. I have AT3Ws and I love them but man the AT4W really upped the weight. Curious to hear how much MPG dropped?

I've only driven around my neighborhood, probably a total of 10 miles so far. I have a weekend trip and I'll try to calculate it, but I suspect it's 1mpg or less given the other data that is out there with weight/size. These SL are considerably lighter than the LT tires they released.

 

[TeCKis300]

I've only driven around my neighborhood, probably a total of 10 miles so far. I have a weekend trip and I'll try to calculate it, but I suspect it's 1mpg or less given the other data that is out there with weight/size. These SL are considerably lighter than the LT tires they released.

Weight is a factor but perhaps a smaller one next to:

1. Tire design and rolling resistance
2. Aero
3. Gearing loss

 

[ryanCA]

I just ordered up some 275/65/18 SL Wildpeak AT4Ws today. Decided to play it safe with something just slightly larger than stock but a more aggressive tread. I currently have have LTX AT2 in the same size, I just don’t like the look of them and they’re not great in snowy/slushy conditions. I also didn’t want to fuss with any sort of rubbing. Will report back tomorrow after they are mounted. Either I’ll love them or feel like a d-bag for not getting bigger tires.

Wanted to keep tire weight under 50lbs each and the only 275/70/18 available to achieve that was the grabber ATX, and my heart just wasn’t loving the design, not to mention the guys at discount tire said they have been getting tons of those back in with heavy spots and balancing issues.

love my grabber atx in that size

11,000 miles = 0 issues

after 7 yesrs of ko2 i am done with them

love me grabber atx

 

[W4632018]

love my grabber atx in that size

11,000 miles = 0 issues

after 7 yesrs of ko2 i am done with them

love me grabber atx

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Sick LC bro. I think 275/65/18 is the ideal size on the LC200. Wider and taller than this just scream mall crawler to me, not functional. But to each their own.

Have you looked into the KO3?

 

[ryanCA]

Sick LC bro. I think 275/65/18 is the ideal size on the LC200. Wider and taller than this just scream mall crawler to me, not functional. But to each their own.

Have you looked into the KO3?

k03 didnt have the size few months ago - sizes were limited

 

[OysterDome]

Long time lurker, finally upgrading from my stock size H/T to A/T tires. I'm closing in on my tire of choice and need some validation from this community.

I'm currently running stock 2013 - 2015 LX570 wheels (+45mm offset) instead of the 2010 stock wheels. TBH I'm looking at A/T wheels mostly for looks. I use my rig for driving to the ski areas in the winter and do some light hiking in the mountains, so A/T tires aren't completely unnecessary. I'm also not wheeling, so keeping the 20" rims makes more sense than going down to an 18" rim. I'm also trying to find a size of tire that is not LT to save on weight and negatively impacting NVH. I'm in the PNW and really need a tire that handles well with all of our rain and I'd like to try these A/T tires as my year round tire instead of switching to my Blizzak DMV-2 285/50/20's in the winter. I really like @TeCKis300 's rig and I'm pretty sold on the 305/55/20 size. The 20" rim size would also let me upgrade to the bigger StopTech Tundra brakes in the future.

So, now to my questions:

I'm thinking about going to 1.25" tundra spacers for looks and to hold the bigger 305 tires. Would 1.25" spacers on a 305/55/20 wheel have my doing any serious cutting besides the standard removal of front mudflaps and pulling the liner forward (@TeCKis300 method)?

Because I don't need an LT tire, would the 305/55/20 - 116T Falken WildPeak A/T4W work for my LX570 in terms of weight rating?

Are there other 305/55/20 A/T tires in a passenger rating that I should consider?

Does the 305/55/20 fit in the spare location? Any adaptions needed to make it fit?

Pic for reference:

 

[tbisaacs]

Long time lurker, finally upgrading from my stock size H/T to A/T tires. I'm closing in on my tire of choice and need some validation from this community.

I'm currently running stock 2013 - 2015 LX570 wheels (+45mm offset) instead of the 2010 stock wheels. TBH I'm looking at A/T wheels mostly for looks. I use my rig for driving to the ski areas in the winter and do some light hiking in the mountains, so A/T tires aren't completely unnecessary. I'm also not wheeling, so keeping the 20" rims makes more sense than going down to an 18" rim. I'm also trying to find a size of tire that is not LT to save on weight and negatively impacting NVH. I'm in the PNW and really need a tire that handles well with all of our rain and I'd like to try these A/T tires as my year round tire instead of switching to my Blizzak DMV-2 285/50/20's in the winter. I really like @TeCKis300 's rig and I'm pretty sold on the 305/55/20 size. The 20" rim size would also let me upgrade to the bigger StopTech Tundra brakes in the future.

So, now to my questions:

I'm thinking about going to 1.25" tundra spacers for looks and to hold the bigger 305 tires. Would 1.25" spacers on a 305/55/20 wheel have my doing any serious cutting besides the standard removal of front mudflaps and pulling the liner forward (@TeCKis300 method)?

Because I don't need an LT tire, would the 305/55/20 - 116T Falken WildPeak A/T4W work for my LX570 in terms of weight rating?

Are there other 305/55/20 A/T tires in a passenger rating that I should consider?

Does the 305/55/20 fit in the spare location? Any adaptions needed to make it fit?

Pic for reference:

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Proceed

 

[TeCKis300]

Long time lurker, finally upgrading from my stock size H/T to A/T tires. I'm closing in on my tire of choice and need some validation from this community.

I'm currently running stock 2013 - 2015 LX570 wheels (+45mm offset) instead of the 2010 stock wheels. TBH I'm looking at A/T wheels mostly for looks. I use my rig for driving to the ski areas in the winter and do some light hiking in the mountains, so A/T tires aren't completely unnecessary. I'm also not wheeling, so keeping the 20" rims makes more sense than going down to an 18" rim. I'm also trying to find a size of tire that is not LT to save on weight and negatively impacting NVH. I'm in the PNW and really need a tire that handles well with all of our rain and I'd like to try these A/T tires as my year round tire instead of switching to my Blizzak DMV-2 285/50/20's in the winter. I really like @TeCKis300 's rig and I'm pretty sold on the 305/55/20 size. The 20" rim size would also let me upgrade to the bigger StopTech Tundra brakes in the future.

So, now to my questions:

I'm thinking about going to 1.25" tundra spacers for looks and to hold the bigger 305 tires. Would 1.25" spacers on a 305/55/20 wheel have my doing any serious cutting besides the standard removal of front mudflaps and pulling the liner forward (@TeCKis300 method)?

Because I don't need an LT tire, would the 305/55/20 - 116T Falken WildPeak A/T4W work for my LX570 in terms of weight rating?

Are there other 305/55/20 A/T tires in a passenger rating that I should consider?

Does the 305/55/20 fit in the spare location? Any adaptions needed to make it fit?

Pic for reference:

View attachment 3624771

If I'm not mistaken, the factory 285/50R20 is a 112V load rated tire. You're proposed 305/55/20 is a 116T load rating which is above what stock is so it'll meet and exceed requirements. I think that's a solid non-LT choice that'll work great for your use case. Including the choice for the Falken A/T4W which should be about the best option in A/T tires for winter use.

Yes, it'll easily fit int he spare location. Optional but you can remove the forward bracket on the frame rail to tuck it up higher. Can even space the whole hanger bracket up by 3/8".

Minor correction. The 2015 OEM wheels are +60 offset.

Ideally you'd use a 1" spacer. I know there are some trades as the 2015 wheel may not have pockets for the studs to protrude into, which you'll need to clearance for. Pretty easy in my mind to drill out little pockets for the studs and this would still be my choice for better suspension geometry and easier overall fitment versus the 1.25" spacers.

Or you can use a 1.25" spacer which will require more finessing of plastics as it'll swing more and may get close to the body mount. You'll want to dial in more caster for either case to bring the tire forward of the body mount.

 

[Northboundndown]

k03 didnt have the size few months ago - sizes were limited

K03 in that size isn't supposed to come out until August, so probably will actually see it widely available in 2025.

 

[ryanCA]

K03 in that size isn't supposed to come out until August, so probably will actually see it widely available in 2025.

probably will b dead by then anyways

 

[mmbirtcher]

Hi All,

Thank you for putting this together. Where is the link to the spreadsheet? I have looked thoroughly so I must need some new readers.

Thanks,
Grins

I don’t see the link to the spreadsheet either. Probably just old and easily confused by all the info here.

@MScruiser or @OGBeno would you direct me to the database please? I’m on the struggle bus trying to locate! Thanks!

 

[cps502]

In the spirit of the recent discourse in the last two pages of this thread, here’s an atypical wheel and tire combo— 0 offset Nomad Arvo (17”x8.5”) with 255/85r17 aka 35x10 (34.6” published OD) Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT tires.

Edit: I have a couple mm of clearance between my spare tire and the panhard bar. It does not appear to interfere, though I would definitely be happier with a bit more clearance. Shown in last photo.