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Anyone else have an ARB brand Garage door?

(I didn’t realize my kid put the LX in H and I was backing in)
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All one needs is a licensed engineer to sign off on the modifications, who then run the modified vehicle through a limited set of tests which are primarily focused on braking and emergency maneuvering. Reliability and service life don't really enter the equation, nor does the expected (ab)use the vehicle will see. So yes, it is funny that with all of the regulations here what amounts to a spring and shock change can get you such a large increase in GVWR.
Can you post a source for how Australia certifies the GVM upgrade, or are you just speculating? It's only funny if you assume that the upgrade itself isn't also closely regulated, which given the rest of the regulations and random enforcement really doesn't make any sense.

That pictured vehicle is probably exceeding the modified GCWR/GCM (assuming it even has a GVM upgrade) and I am making the assumption that the driver probably doesn't have the correct license class for the weight they're operating. Additionally, unlike the US, recreational drivers are stopped and weighed at random or if there is a GCM enforcement program on. IMO they are opening themselves up to some pretty hefty fines and logistical headaches if they aren't within their license class and GCM limits, let alone whatever repairs and liability they're facing if the unthinkable were to occur.
Given that the pictured vehicle is in Australia, it is FAR more likely that he IS operating within regulations, is it not? Especially since y'all are stopped and weighed randomly as you say. You'd be crazy to overload your truck in Australia like a ton of people do here in the States. 🤠

I completely disagree with your assessment of washboard roads use; these vehicles are designed to take that sort of abuse at the OEM load limits.
Yeah that was more of a personal preference statement than anything. I don't do any desert racing, but my Tundra with a mid-travel setup handles washboards far better than my stock 200.

My philosophy on these trucks is that they were meant to take abuse. Don't most of them in the world operate in the absence of infrastructure? Use it. If it breaks, fix it. Get back to using it. They're tough, capable rigs. I'm not worried about overuse or overloading within reason and/or regulation. Especially when I see countries that closely monitor and enforce regulations on their recreational rigs certify an extra ton of capacity with the installation of heavier springs.
 
Can you post a source for how Australia certifies the GVM upgrade, or are you just speculating? It's only funny if you assume that the upgrade itself isn't also closely regulated, which given the rest of the regulations and random enforcement really doesn't make any sense.


Given that the pictured vehicle is in Australia, it is FAR more likely that he IS operating within regulations, is it not? Especially since y'all are stopped and weighed randomly as you say. You'd be crazy to overload your truck in Australia like a ton of people do here in the States. 🤠


Yeah that was more of a personal preference statement than anything. I don't do any desert racing, but my Tundra with a mid-travel setup handles washboards far better than my stock 200.

My philosophy on these trucks is that they were meant to take abuse. Don't most of them in the world operate in the absence of infrastructure? Use it. If it breaks, fix it. Get back to using it. They're tough, capable rigs. I'm not worried about overuse or overloading within reason and/or regulation. Especially when I see countries that closely monitor and enforce regulations on their recreational rigs certify an extra ton of capacity with the installation of heavier springs.

GVM increases primarily degrade braking and emergency maneuvering, so the relevent tests are those which ensure the modified vehicle complies with the ADRs relevant to the MY of the vehicle are the braking and lane change tests. You can peruse the ADRs here: https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/i...cle-design-regulation/australian-design-rules

https://packardauto.com.au/pages/process-of-engineering <-Well respected Engineering co in WA

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Plenty of folks exceed GVM either through a lack of proper understanding, or on the hope they won't get caught. Plenty of folks chuck in a GVM kit and assume it lets them do whatever they please, and never bother with actually weighing their setup to see if they're in compliance. Human nature is human nature, regardless of what country you are in.
 
GVM increases primarily degrade braking and emergency maneuvering, so the relevent tests are those which ensure the modified vehicle complies with the ADRs relevant to the MY of the vehicle are the braking and lane change tests. You can peruse the ADRs here: https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/i...cle-design-regulation/australian-design-rules

https://packardauto.com.au/pages/process-of-engineering <-Well respected Engineering co in WA

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Plenty of folks exceed GVM either through a lack of proper understanding, or on the hope they won't get caught. Plenty of folks chuck in a GVM kit and assume it lets them do whatever they please, and never bother with actually weighing their setup to see if they're in compliance. Human nature is human nature, regardless of what country you are in.
So, rather than just "chuck(ing) in a GVM kit and assum(ing) it lets them do whatever they please", this is actually a tested, regulated process. Your link says they test braking and lane changing (read: handling) in addition to stress on the chassis. The shop installing the GVM upgrade (or any other of several upgrade options, including Braked Trailer Mass) has to apply for and is presumably held accountable for installing and documenting this Second Stage Of Manufacture.

My final thought, and then I will contribute no more to this derail: the fact that the only things they upgrade are springs, brake lines, and in some cases axle mounts for a GVM upgrade through a certified Second Stage of Manufacture that is compliant with the law and insurance and carries up to a 3 year warranty, tells us that the rest of the components are reasonably up to task. My personal takeaway is that these rigs are obviously up to the task. I'm not going to smugly wring my hands at someone on an Internet forum because they are over OEM payload in a heavily modified rig. If you are worried those who created and enforce Australia's extremely detailed regulatory system haven't considered all the factors and they are unknowingly putting inherently dangerous vehicles on the road through the SSM programs, then maybe take that up with them.
 
So, rather than just "chuck(ing) in a GVM kit and assum(ing) it lets them do whatever they please", this is actually a tested, regulated process. Your link says they test braking and lane changing (read: handling) in addition to stress on the chassis. The shop installing the GVM upgrade (or any other of several upgrade options, including Braked Trailer Mass) has to apply for and is presumably held accountable for installing and documenting this Second Stage Of Manufacture.

My final thought, and then I will contribute no more to this derail: the fact that the only things they upgrade are springs, brake lines, and in some cases axle mounts for a GVM upgrade through a certified Second Stage of Manufacture that is compliant with the law and insurance and carries up to a 3 year warranty, tells us that the rest of the components are reasonably up to task. My personal takeaway is that these rigs are obviously up to the task. I'm not going to smugly wring my hands at someone on an Internet forum because they are over OEM payload in a heavily modified rig. If you are worried those who created and enforce Australia's extremely detailed regulatory system haven't considered all the factors and they are unknowingly putting inherently dangerous vehicles on the road through the SSM programs, then maybe take that up with them.

Custom GVM set-ups get tested individually, wheras OTS GVM kits just have a placard that is added to the vehicle by the installer and the owner/operator is responsible for staying under the modified GVM. It's as simple as that, and if you choose to believe that all Aussies are going to stay in compliance.... Well, as they say, "ignorance is bliss"

Zzzzzz....more pics...yall killing the mood

Agreed, here is one where I had to winch off the leading jeep to pivot the LC200 around an obstacle on hamburger hill last time I was in Moab. Dog was supervising.

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Custom GVM set-ups get tested individually, wheras OTS GVM kits just have a placard that is added to the vehicle by the installer and the owner/operator is responsible for staying under the modified GVM. It's as simple as that, and if you choose to believe that all Aussies are going to stay in compliance.... Well, as they say, "ignorance is bliss"



Agreed, here is one where I had to winch off the leading jeep to pivot the LC200 around an obstacle on hamburger hill last time I was in Moab. Dog was supervising.

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There we go. Hamburger Hill always gives something to remember it by.
 
Can't we get the LX600 no AHC, and change grilles and badges?
Sure. I'd just much rather have the more stripped down 300 series that is triple locked with cloth seats and no sunroof that sells for the equivalent of $55-60k in Qatar.
 
I agree too. Not sure why they went ahead to develop the LC we are getting instead of the 300….. but that’s like:deadhorse:

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I agree too. Not sure why they went ahead to develop the LC we are getting instead of the 300….. but that’s like:deadhorse:

They were developing it anyway as the new Prado for other markets. They just pulled the ol switcheroo on the US market.
 

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