1HD-FTE, LX450 Swap. Impossible to Register due to Colorado Emissions Program

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Hey all, I've been working up to take the FTE, LX450 for emissions.

If you live in the Colorado Metro areas, odds are you'll have to take your vehicle for emissions testing before you can register, and plate/tag the vehicle.


As the title states, I am now stuck in legal limbo with my LX450. I'll give a brief history of my total registration/title history in case this may help others who are thinking of doing the swap in the area where emissions are required.

  • Early 2025 - When I bought the LX450 both cats we're removed, so at the time I opted to just pay sales tax in Jefferson County, CO. This allowed me to get a temp tag, and gave me time to find some catalytic converters for emissions.
  • April 2025 - I decided to go down the diesel rabbit hole, and found about the 1hdfte, I then bought an HDJ100, getting me my engine. I had also moved to a new County, this complicates things further, Jefferson County took the tax money, Adams county wanted to charge that same tax again to continue registration, I didn't follow through because taxation is theft, and I had already paid a sales tax, to the same state.
  • September 2025 - The swap is complete, and now I need to register this thing and get an actual plate instead of temp tags that are only good till OCT 10, 2025.
  • Oct 2025 - To register a diesel, the tag office states you need to get a vin verification/road worthy inspection done by Colorado State Patrol, easy enough.
    -DR 2704, Is filled out by the State Patrol, they check safety equipment, lights, horn, brake switch.
    -They also State, "Vehicle converted from Gas to Diesel"
  • Feb 2026 - To be able to emissions test a "grey" market vehicle/engine, you need form DR 2365 filled out by a technician/supervisor at the Denver Emissions Technical Center, my understanding is they somehow, try to confirm if your engine/vehicle has it's emissions equipment, and it's still installed/operational.

    Now I didn't have high expectations for passing this because I've deleted the crossover/EGR, but I held onto it in the event I needed it to pass emissions. The impossible part with this is, and as I understand it from the supervisor. The Emissions Technical Center or EPA, have zero frame of reference for the engine, or the emissions equipment it's supposed to have. I argued why should they care for a frame of reference when the vehicle the engine is in, the vehicle that was imported, and the engine are all 25+ years or older? He stated they are still required to be certified by the EPA to be tested and registered in the Emissions Program Area. I also argued I could provide parts diagrams showing what these vehicles came with in stock form regarding emissions equipment. He stated that's not enough, and the burden is on ME to find a vehicle that was sold in the united states with the same engine that I've swapped into my LX450... Which we all know here, doesn't ****ing exist. He was nice enough to recommend a Cummins 2.8 repower 💩

    Here's the killer for guys trying to swap, the supervisor has basically stated, if you swap a grey market diesel engine, into any vehicle. They WILL not allow you to get an opacity test at an emissions shop, basically killing the pathway to legally register your vehicle in the state of Colorado. He also stated, that the vehicle is technically illegally operating on Colorado roads.

    I know there are other methods, Registering outside of the Emissions program requires a proof of residence, which I do not have. The Montana LLC route, which I fear is a ticking timebomb because some states may view it as tax evasion.

    I could attempt to register it in two other states we own property in, Georgia, or Oregon. Which basically puts me in the Montana plate category. I'm going to ponder on it and think next steps.

    Anyway, if you live in an emissions enforcing area hellscape, move. I would, but I just bought a house, and I really like my garage.
 
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He stated that's not enough, and the burden is on ME to find a vehicle that was sold in the united states with the same engine that I've swapped into my LX450... Which we all know here, doesn't ****ing exist. He was nice enough to recommend a Cummins 2.8 repower 💩

Did it occur to him that you're unlikely to find a Cummins 2.8 powered LX450 that was sold in the United States?
 
Did it occur to him that you're unlikely to find a Cummins 2.8 powered LX450 that was sold in the United States?
I freaking know man, an absolute circus.

I asked him about people who 5.9 or i believe 6.7 cummins swap vehicles, he stated "They also fail because the engines are intended to be in medium/heavy duty applications."

I pretty much knew then it didnt matter what I said, or could provide documentation wise.
 
My original plan was to buy a much cheaper 80 and do a V8 swap, until I decided to call around and talk to officials about getting it fully legal. I think I spoke to 10 people at eight agencies/offices, and I got 10 different answers. One guy told me, "no matter how good you think you are, you will not get a pass from me - I will find a problem and I will fail you." :rolleyes: That was the precise moment my plan changed and I tripled my budget to get a supercharged model with a CARB sticker. He has all the power and he's not the only one who thinks like that. They've got a plannit to save, after all. :rolleyes:

Every single V8 I was considering is cleaner than the 1FZ, per the EPA's own data. They are unconcerned by that, and that's how you know the only emissions they care about is zero, and these old trucks have only one proper mod, by their design: the crusher.

I'm afraid you are beginning to learn a very expensive lesson about life behind enemy lines. 👎👎

Good luck.
 
My original plan was to buy a much cheaper 80 and do a V8 swap, until I decided to call around and talk to officials about getting it fully legal. I think I spoke to 10 people at eight agencies/offices, and I got 10 different answers. One guy told me, "no matter how good you think you are, you will not get a pass from me - I will find a problem and I will fail you." :rolleyes: That was the precise moment my plan changed and I tripled my budget to get a supercharged model with a CARB sticker. He has all the power and he's not the only one who thinks like that. They've got a plannit to save, after all. :rolleyes:

Every single V8 I was considering is cleaner than the 1FZ, per the EPA's own data. They are unconcerned by that, and that's how you know the only emissions they care about is zero, and these old trucks have only one proper mod, by their design: the crusher.

I'm afraid you are beginning to learn a very expensive lesson about life behind enemy lines. 👎👎

Good luck.
If I have to rent a ****ing dog house in crack rock alley in the middle of nowhere, ill find a means. But yes, the frustration is definitely felt lol.
 
I have 1 vehicle registered in Colorado (in a non-emissions county) and all I had to do was take the title and the vehicle to the tax office. All they did was confirm the VIN on the out of state title matched the vehicle and they issued me CO plates, title, and registration.

The vehicle did not have an engine swap, but there was no effort to inspect the engine or emissions equipment. It’s not ideal, or reasonable by most standards, but maybe it’s your easiest solution to getting CO plates.
 
Knew a guy, years ago, that bought a stock 1973 FJ55. This was in Alabama. He had ACC (I think) in Atlanta do a 80 series frame swapb under the 55 with a turbo or super charged 1FZ. He then moved to Colorado Springs and had $50k or so tied up in it, and could not get it registered. I knew this because I helped him with the FJ55 purchase and he contacted me for papers from the initial sale. I don't know the outcome and that was 10+ years ago.
 
You might have to revisit this thread for advice: Looking for assistance with Colorado emissions (1HD-FT) - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/looking-for-assistance-with-colorado-emissions-1hd-ft.1325257/

There are some who have gotten their "gray market" diesel registered.
Yeah, ive read through it. The manager stonewalled me because its a swap, he also stated. If the engine was in the original vehicle, it wouldnt have been an issue, but because the "modification" they couldnt pass it.

Maybe im just still hot about it, but I feel like they just ****ing wing it, and then go with it.

Like the engine knows what it's in...

We'll get her through.
 
Yeah, ive read through it. The manager stonewalled me because its a swap, he also stated. If the engine was in the original vehicle, it wouldnt have been an issue, but because the "modification" they couldnt pass it.

Maybe im just still hot about it, but I feel like they just ****ing wing it, and then go with it.

Like the engine knows what it's in...

We'll get her through.
Sure sounds like you got the same d!ckhead that gave me the toughguy speech above. He was a manager in one of Denver locations.
 
I could attempt to register it in two other states we own property in, Georgia, or Oregon. Which basically puts me in the Montana plate category. I'm going to ponder on it and think next steps.

Just in case you wind up looking more down this road, the rules in Oregon are not all the same statewide. The Portland Metro area has fairly strict rules, and I believe there's another set of rules for the rest of the Willamette valley and Medford. Meanwhile, the rest of the state is more or less unregulated.
 
Just in case you wind up looking more down this road, the rules in Oregon are not all the same statewide. The Portland Metro area has fairly strict rules, and I believe there's another set of rules for the rest of the Willamette valley and Medford. Meanwhile, the rest of the state is more or less unregulated.
The property in Oregon is in Coos Bay. Ill do some more research. Thank you for the heads up!
 
Sure sounds like you got the same d!ckhead that gave me the toughguy speech above. He was a manager in one of Denver locations.
He was proud of all the clean air, meanwhile I could smell the dankest weed around the corner, and a homeless guy was doing the fent lean in the parking lot.

Im thankful hes keeping me safe from the harmful diesel particulates!
 
I found a picture of him and his crew.

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The property in Oregon is in Coos Bay. Ill do some more research. Thank you for the heads up!
I won't swear to it, but I think you're okay on pretty much the entire coast.

I've ranted about this before, but this stuff absolutely kills me. I'm fine with environmental regulations that actually make sense, but these laws aren't written that way. Pretty sure you could run that thing until it crumbles into dust and it wouldn't make as much pollution as building a new Prius. Meanwhile, we can barely make enough power to run all the stupid AI no one wants. If you can't afford a lobbyist, the rules aren't made for you.
 
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