160amp ACE Alternator info and install

[Stevesnj]

So after much research I decided to go with a direct fit remanufactured ACE Alternator from Yucca California operating since 1937. I read up on ACE and then ordered and received the alternator today. I must say this looks like the best remanufactured alternator I ever seen. Looks practically new. It was packed very well with foam and shrunk wrapped airtight. I immediately took pics and spun the pulley. Not a peep since they install new bearings. Also they put in dielectric grease in the connection port which was a sign of quality and care they take.

I am sure other use other alternatives on here with brackets and I just didn't want to invest that much so I waited and finally found this company. This is an OEM shell. I don't know who makes the internals but they look clean and high quality. I am posting this infer so others can be informed of another choice and have no intention to take anyones custom bracket business away.

For $135 with shipping here is what I received. On the surface it looks fantastic but the proof will be in its performance. I will update this and have install pics also.

steve

Link http://www.acealternators.com

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[Stevesnj]

Few more pics....

 

[bigezvol]

What year rig did this go in?

 

[Stevesnj]

What year rig did this go in?

A 96, check my signature

 

[bigezvol]

Sig doesn't show up on the app I guess. Thx

 

[js93cruiser]

Link to website??

 

[half k cruiser]

That thing had better suck, otherwise you just blew $135 of my Xmas money.

 

[Stevesnj]

That thing had better suck, otherwise you just blew $135 of my Xmas money.

HAHA

 

[Stevesnj]

Link to website??

http://www.acealternators.com

 

[Stevesnj]

Im getting closer to installing this. A few notes, i contacted AceAlternator and they explained how the alternators are made. I was on the phone with him for 30minutes. Anyway he is confident in his product and he offered to upgrade my alternator to their new 180amp version. I just received it and it looks just as good as the 160amp. I also just received my new cables 1/0 (pic below) from BestBoatWire.com, cheesy name but tinned copper cables with ends the way you want them and they are made in the USA so no China stuff. I also got the 225amp Mega Fuse and holder. So hopefully sometime during next week I'll install it.

This is what he has done to the alternators;

-Use OEM Nippendenso core which is cleaned and repainted as well as the pulley
-Old Components are removed leaving the shell
-The stator is new with new copper windings, they do not add on or clean any windings.
-Stator is upgraded to '3 wire' winding from the stock.
-Rectifier is upped to 4 diodes
-Regulator is NEW from Transpo Electronics for the new components and to put out up to 14.7 volts Part # IN437 just for this alternators' specifications
-Then each alternator is tested at between 600-750 rpm then @ 1200-1500 rpm on a Snap-On tester that uses a load and not just calculates it based on the rpm for more accuracy and uses an ECU simulator to simulate vehicle system load.

BestBoatWire Link http://www.bestboatwire.com/1-0-awg-custom-battery-cables

 

[rhyary]

What makes it different then the green something alternator that promised 150 amps as well?

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[Pin_Head]

What makes it different then the green something alternator that promised 150 amps as well?

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It is just a rebuilt stock alternator that they put 160A diodes in. You could put 300A diodes in it too and that wouldn't make it put out 300 amps.

The stator is the same size with the same wire and same number of windings. All alternators are 3 phase not "3 wire".

The stock alternator had 4 full wave bridge diodes.

Until someone can show that it puts out 160 amps at the full rated voltage, you can presume that this is just like any other rebuilt stock alternator.

 

[Otamiway]

I also just received my new cables 1/0 (pic below) from BestBoatWire.com, I also got the 225amp Mega Fuse and holder.

Great idea to upgrade you alternator wire. I had "FourRunner" build me a set.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=578556&stc=1&d=1323103737

In my final install, I moved the original Alternator wire to the bolt just before the New Fuse you are adding. On my alternator, the bolt was not long enough for both wires to be connected at the alternator.

I hope is all works out for you.

Stu

 

[Stevesnj]

It is just a rebuilt stock alternator that they put 160A diodes in. You could put 300A diodes in it too and that wouldn't make it put out 300 amps.

The stator is the same size with the same wire and same number of windings. All alternators are 3 phase not "3 wire".

The stock alternator had 4 full wave bridge diodes.

Until someone can show that it puts out 160 amps at the full rated voltage, you can presume that this is just like any other rebuilt stock alternator.

I hope you're wrong, otherwise I will get my money back.

 

[Pin_Head]

So when are you going to do the experiment? Put a clip on amp meter on the B+ wire and then ground it momentarily with the engine running at 2,500 RPM. That will show you the max it can put out when running off of its regulator in the most extreme output demand situation it could encounter.

If you want to believe that it is a 160 amp alternator, then fine; I don't have a problem with that. But when you repeat this claim as if it is an established fact, then you are misleading other people. I think they should know that you don't get something (more power) for nothing so they don't get ripped off.

 

[Stevesnj]

So when are you going to do the experiment? Put a clip on amp meter on the B+ wire and then ground it momentarily with the engine running at 2,500 RPM. That will show you the max it can put out when running off of its regulator in the most extreme output demand situation it could encounter.

If you want to believe that it is a 160 amp alternator, then fine; I don't have a problem with that. But when you repeat this claim as if it is an established fact, then you are misleading other people. I think they should know that you don't get something (more power) for nothing so they don't get ripped off.

I appreciate you commenting and I always have appreciated your help but I never said for a fact this is going to work 100%, I have always maintained I am skeptical as well and will find out after the on vehicle test. All I have to go by is what the rebuilder has advertised. I am not telling people to get this only giving my experience with this alternator and company. You have knowledge that I don't obviously but who are you? What if this puts out what it claims? If it doesn't i will ask for my money back or just keep a well rebuilt alternator. But DON"T say I am misleading people when I never said for anyone to buy this or this puts out 160amps, I never said that ever! I am relaying the rebuilders advertised claims. There is a difference. People can choose on their own. I have no way to control them on what to buy and I did this at my own risk.

Respectfully, Steve

 

[bruja blanca]

Options, love 'em! Thanks for the heads up. We were waiting on a Sequoia alt but that got lost in the mail.

This gives us yet another option for power generation.

 

[Pin_Head]

If you read the claims in the ad, they do not explicitly say that the alternator is capable of putting out 160A at its rated voltage. They only say it has 160 amp diodes in it. You imply that they are telling you more over the phone and you are repeating without comment or qualification that it is a 160 amp alternator and without mentioning the fact that the output is a subject of controversy. So you are misleading people by omission of important facts and issues, but it is still misleading. I'm just telling other people that the buyer should beware. It is clearly a stock alternator with stock components and that is not going to double its output. It is common sense.

PS. If you or anyone else can show that it puts out a full 160A at 13.7 V, then I will eat my digital words and stop believing in thermodynamics or start believing that the mothers of the Toyota engineers raised incompetent fools in designing an alternator that runs at only half of its capacity.

 

[Stevesnj]

If you read the claims in the ad, they do not explicitly say that the alternator is capable of putting out 160A at its rated voltage. They only say it has 160 amp diodes in it. You imply that they are telling you more over the phone and you are repeating without comment or qualification that it is a 160 amp alternator and without mentioning the fact that the output is a subject of controversy. So you are misleading people by omission of important facts and issues, but it is still misleading. I'm just telling other people that the buyer should beware. It is clearly a stock alternator with stock components and that is not going to double its output. It is common sense.

PS. If you or anyone else can show that it puts out a full 160A at 13.7 V, then I will eat my digital words and stop believing in thermodynamics or start believing that the mothers of the Toyota engineers raised incompetent fools in designing an alternator that runs at only half of its capacity.

Well what am i to believe, the company that builds them,claims to me that it WILL put out 160amps at 13.7v. I am not an engineer and sometimes I can do all the research in the world and not know what you know. Some of us have to trust what companies say since we are not engineers. You keep telling me in a sense I am stupid from buying this. Its not your issue until you buy one, install and test it, otherwise I don't understand why you are so concerned with what I do. It's not a big deal I am just explaining in this thread my experience with this install. If I am wrong about this than Oh'Well I will eat my digital words. An you continue to say i mislead people. This is false. I am just quoting what I was told over the phone. I have no way of proving any of the companies claims until i have it tested on the truck. I claim that broccoli tastes good but others may try it and not like it. Did I mislead them? No they tried it for themselves. I am doing a review on my experience,whats wrong with that? I thought that is what this forum was about? I Admit you are smarter with alternators than I am, is that what you want to hear? Then I said it.

 

[Pin_Head]

I am not concerned with what you do; I am concerned that others might get ripped off by thinking this is a 160 amp output alternator when the manufacturer does not explicitly state this simple fact on their web site. In print, they only say it as 160A diodes. That is all. Carry on.