I kept mine easy. No modification to the vehicle. There is plenty of room for the radios under the seat. APRS works great.
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Looks like one for HF and one for VHF/UHF.How many radios do you need?
Ha. That is a loaded question like what is the biggest size tire I can run and still get 18 mpg in our 120s.
Size, in this case antenna length, does matter. Define good range, tell me the terrain where you want the good range and tell who all do you plan to talk to, such as the other vehicles on the trail, your wife back home, or another country. Ham radio can easily do all that without cell service. But you have to have the right antenna to do it.
For example one of the things I like to do is hike up to some remote spot and with a wire antenna that can coil up into my pocket and a 5w radio get on the air and see how many other states and countries I can work. We call making contact with another ham working them. Those terrain conditions are not all that different from where people wheel their trucks so ham radio is a complimentary side hobby and is good for em comms as well as general comms among the group.
VHF and uhf radio wave propagation is line of sight. That is why you see tall antenna towers all over the place around cities and towns. On top of the hill after a rock climb will give much better results than in the bottoms. Flat desert is line of sight from antenna to antenna.
The longer the antenna the better it is to "catch" and send the radio waves. If you have true line of sight with no obstructions then a shorter antenna would work fine.
Personally I find that for vhf and uhf ham bands a 32" to 36" (1/2 wave) antenna works quite well on my vehicles. Particularly I run Larsen 2/70 nmo and Comet SBB5 mmo's antennas on my vehicles. For my handheld (walkie talkie) radios I use 1/4 wave flexible antennas which are 15" or so. BTW a black 36" antenna on the right front fender somewhat looks like a regular radio antenna on other vehicles if you are overly concerned about aesthetics.
Can a 15" 1/4 wave be used on a vehicle and a 6-8" be used on a handheld? Yes but with reduced, maybe much reduced, performance.
In the bottoms, I would much rather have a 1/2 wave or even a 5/8th wave antenna to give me the best chance of getting my TX out of the hole. Some of the antennas a more wispy than others and can very easily be bent by obstacles on the trails. Both my antennas mentioned above have been abused for several years and both still work great.
I kept mine easy. No modification to the vehicle. There is plenty of room for the radios under the seat. APRS works great.
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Some great info Don. I'm curious who all is licensed? I've studied and am taking the test sometime soon when I can. If you are really interested in getting a ham set up I highly recommend the license - not only is it required by federal law, but you'll learn a lot just studying for it and understand things like why antenna length matters, etc. There is a lot more to it than just buying the unit and antenna and connecting them, as Don has pointed out.
I STILL don't see an ideal place for a faceplate in the GX (IMO), lol, but these are some good ideas and pics, thx guys
HAM License test is like Spanish class in high school, you learn stuff to pass the test but you don't learn something useful like having a conversation!
Personally, I just use the Simplex channels out on the trail where no one ever uses the call letters. The license was pointless. I am licensed but won't bother renewing. If you can afford a HAM radio then get one and never bother with a CB radio.
HAM License test is like Spanish class in high school, you learn stuff to pass the test but you don't learn something useful like having a conversation!
Personally, I just use the Simplex channels out on the trail where no one ever uses the call letters. The license was pointless. I am licensed but won't bother renewing. If you can afford a HAM radio then get one and never bother with a CB radio.
HAM License test is like Spanish class in high school, you learn stuff to pass the test but you don't learn something useful like having a conversation!
Personally, I just use the Simplex channels out on the trail where no one ever uses the call letters. The license was pointless. I am licensed but won't bother renewing. If you can afford a HAM radio then get one and never bother with a CB radio.
Agree, disheartening that someone seems to be promoting not using call signs and disobeying FCC regs. Look, rather listen to what CB has become. Actually HAM is going that way as well. Not sure people get what “best practice” is or don’t care anymore.
Btw, our club and others here in CO use call signs on simplex all the time. Sorry to go off topic.
Wow, I knew my take wouldn’t be popular but I guess I really struck a Nerve.
Ummm as far as being lazy it’s just sort of obnoxious to call out your call sign when no one else I. The group does.
Here in San Diego most of the people have hacked Panasonic radios that they use for chase vehicles for the Score races down in Mexico. And the sound quality and range is just so much better than CB that it is a must have.
Anyway, I will be sure to not give you guys my call letters so you don’t turn me into the boogie man!
If I had a home set-up where I was trying to contact other states or countries then I would definitely follow the rules more closely. But when I am just chatting with my buddies as we drive around for the day then I am not going to Nerd our.
Sorry if this disappoints anyone.
Right, lol, and join the chess club while you are at it.You could always be that one guy to influence your group into proper radio etiquette..
Right, lol, and join the chess club while you are at it.
If you think using them correctly will keep them from being sold off I have a bridge to sell you (I wont even wait for the highest bidder). The gov'ment does what the gov'ment wants. ?Privilege to use a naturally occurring electromagnetic wavelength spectrum what next do I need a license to use light too? Its at this point when I should point out I am a raging anarchist who believes the scariest words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I am here to help." I will not try convince anyone that they need to change behavior that has limited negative externalities.Yeah, because following federal laws that grant us privileges to operate on specific frequencies (instead of selling them off to the highest bidder) is exactly the same as joining a chess club...are you afraid the cool kids at school are going to pick on you for following the rules? If so, f*** 'em.
If you think using them correctly will keep them from being sold off I have a bridge to sell you (I wont even wait for the highest bidder). The gov'ment does what the gov'ment wants. ?Privilege to use a naturally occurring electromagnetic wavelength spectrum what next do I need a license to use light too? Its at this point when I should point out I am a raging anarchist who believes the scariest words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I am here to help." I will not try convince anyone that they need to change behavior that has limited negative externalities.
If you think using them correctly will keep them from being sold off I have a bridge to sell you (I wont even wait for the highest bidder). The gov'ment does what the gov'ment wants. ?Privilege to use a naturally occurring electromagnetic wavelength spectrum what next do I need a license to use light too? Its at this point when I should point out I am a raging anarchist who believes the scariest words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I am here to help." I will not try convince anyone that they need to change behavior that has limited negative externalities.
I did, thanks for letting me know about him. His problems stem from regulation and trying to follow them and uptight people who were dis pleased with how he was using them. Also I swear like a sailor, so yeah I could suffer his fate too, so I definitely wont be saying my license every 10 min.I would suggest you do a Google search on "Richard Burton HAM Radio" and learn about another anarchist.
Well why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel! Just kidding, look I think the non-license guys are missing a point here. The frequencies are limited and there is actually a lot to managing them that you wouldn't necessarily know if you haven't taken the license exam. I don't see much difference between abuse of trails, which leads to closures, and abuse of the radio spectrum, which could lead to restrictions - it's just the radios are not really trackable that easily. One day you may be annoyed by an incompetent radio user messing up your equipment - it's possible to blow out your channels with an overpowered signal and make them unusable, etc, etc.... anyway, to each their own and yes minor use on the trail isn't likely to lead to anything major but