AMSOIL remote oil filter mount - good idea?

[RockDoc]

AMSOIL dual remote oil filter set-up

I've kind of had my eye on AMSOIL's dual remote filter kit, which holds a full flow filter along with a by-pass filter that filters down to a much finer size. The kit is the BMK13 on found at

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/bf.aspx
and
https://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/instructions/BP152.pdf

The benefits I can see would be:
Easier and cleaner filter changes, as the filters can be mounted hanging down vertically in a convenient spot
Greater oil capacity for cooler temps and greater dilution of contaminants
Higher quality of filtration as a result of the by-pass filter
A possible location to add senders for oil temp and pressure gauges down the road

Does anyone have experience with one of these? Thoughts? Would this be overkill, or do you think it is a good idea?

Thanks for sharing your opinion,
Curtis.

 

[BillyGHusk]

I am also very interested in hearing some feedback on this set up. I think it most likely depends on your engine. Is it a gasser with 250,000 miles or a diesel with 400,000? If so then probably not worth it. On the other hand a newer engine that you want to have for a very long time and take the best possible care for....well I can see it being a nice add on.

just my .02

Tim

I also am curious about the pre-oiler that they sell, any thoughts on it as well....

 

[iaintscared1969]

I have installed similar systems on muscle cars and added squirters to the inside of valve covers for the rocker arms. Anything you can do to add filtration, cooler running temps and increase capacity makes an engine happy

 

[KLF]

I've seen this setup on a 2F in an FJ60 several years ago, I thought it was worthwhile. I wish I had the room under the hood in my pickup, I'd have it installed too.

 

[Moby]

I've also been looking at this for my freshly rebuilt engine. I just can't picture where in my engine compartment it's going to go (3FE though).

 

[BillyGHusk]

It is on my short list for my 3B, with 70K miles....still newish

 

[RockDoc]

I'm going to have to have a peek under the hood today and see if there is room (maybe under the battery?....*EDIT definitely not!!*) Not a fresh engine, but my 3fe only has about 160 000 miles, and by the looks of it, it would be easy to swap it over to a new engine/vehicle down the line.

Never really noticed the pre-oiler before. Amsoil sure has some nice products......

 

[RockDoc]

Well, after having a look under the hood, it looks like 3 possibilities for mounting.

1 - On the driver's side with the removal of some smog stuff.
2 - In place of the battery/tray if the battery were located remotely or swapped to the DS after a de-smog.
3 - Suspended from the hood between the air cleaner and the fire wall.

None of these would be simple, but maybe I'll have a closer look at #3 when it is warmer outside.

 

[mtb_rider]

Everytime I change my oil I think how nice it would be to have a remote mount filter. I had a Blazer that had a remote filter on the drivers side, mounted to the core support. It was fantastic. I see the same problem you guys see. Where you gonna put it? It's not exactly small, and I had a hard enough time trying to find a good place to mount my isolator when I put in my dual battery system this past summer. I'll be curious to see what you come up with, so keep us posted.

 

[RockDoc]

Well, I made up a rough cardboard mock-up, and it looks like it will fit fine in the "free-floating" space between the air cleaner and the firewall. So if I decide how to attach it to the underside of the hood (and decide to swallow the $200 US price), I'll give it a go and report back.

 

[RockDoc]

I also am curious about the pre-oiler that they sell, any thoughts on it as well....

Just did a search on pre-oilers, and came across the idea of pulling the EFI fuse (or wiring in a kill switch) to allow for a few seconds of cranking without fuel to circulate oil before firing up the engine. Much cheaper than the $345 for an AMSOIL pre-oiler. Mind you, for a carbureted engine, you are pooched with this idea.

 

[LCOwner]

I run a bypass on my 7.3 power stroke mainly to extend the oil life. I also started running synthetic when I put it on. If you change your oil at 3-5k with a full flow filter you can extend that to 6-10k with a bypass setup.

 

[canadianmedic2]

Another cruiser head told me about amsoil when he installed his Bypass Oil Setup in his FJ60 converted to a 3B. He loves his bypass oil filter, his logic was that if you shell out the $200 US for the product it'll eventually pay for itself in oil changes.

"• EaBP By-pass Filters: Should be changed every other full flow filter change or up to 60,000 miles, whichever comes first. When used with other brands of motor oil or full flow filters, the EaBP should be changed every other full flow filter change. AMSOIL recommends using oil analysis when extending oil drain intervals." http://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/instructions/BP152.pdf

My interpretation of this quote I pulled off the amsoil site is that you can run up to 30, 000 miles off an oil change. I change my oil every 5000 km and with a full flow filter and 10Liters of oil it's not cheap. I would think that the amsoil bypass setup would pay for itself pdq. It's on my short list of things to do. My only concern is what if amsoil goes under, are you going to be left stranded trying to find another by-pass filter that'll match?

 

[RockDoc]

My only concern is what if amsoil goes under, are you going to be left stranded trying to find another by-pass filter that'll match?

I would hope that the bypass filter uses a standard thread, allowing the switch to another manufacturer if needed. If I pull the trigger (pretty sure I will, just have some other stuff I am playing with right now), I'll likely get a few of the bypass filters at once. I am pretty sure the full flow is the same thread set-up as the stock cruiser filter.

I don't think I would push to 50 000 km on a change, but it might be worth an oil analysis after say the first 10 000 or 15 000 km to see how it is holding up.

 

[mtb_rider]

Amsoil has been around a really long time. Doubt they're going anywhere anytime in the forseeable future.

 

[RockDoc]

Just ordered one. I'll post up once I get it and start working it in.

 

[canadianmedic2]

keep us in the loop...

 

[RockDoc]

If it shows up in the next week or so, I'll install it when I am at my folks' place over the holidays.

Trying to decide between dropping the oil when I do it, or sampling then and again after the 1200 km back to Edmonton to see how well it cleans the oil. I have access to some good microscopes with cameras. Between the scopes and "paper chromatography" I should be able to judge whether or not it is scavenging out the solids without shelling out for a mail in analysis.

I'll definitely report back on it.

 

[RockDoc]

Well, my 62 got a care package from Amsoil today.

BMK-13 dual remote filter kit and a couple of EaBP-90 by-pass filters (the smallest of 3 available).

I am liking what I am seeing so far. The kit is very nice, all the hardware looks high-quality and the instructions are well put together. Some of the fittings even have plastic caps on them to keep them clean!! The filter is HUGE and as heavy as 2 of the WIX/NAPA full flow filters I have been using.

I'll get it all installed over the holidays when I am at my folks' place and can use their heated garage. Not sure if I will change out the oil when I do it, or just top it off so I can check on how well the by-pass filter clarifies the oil. (I'm leaning towards the latter)

 

[chichiflys]

Looks like a nice kit. Let us know how it goes. I have been using Amsoil for many years now - never any issues. Call me crazy but I go by their recommended drain interaval of 20k or 1 year. Their new filters now allow up to 1 year/20k as well. I never drive more than 20k in one year, so I usually end up changing the oil/filter based on the timing and not the mileage. And there is usually something that drives an oil change before the year anyways, so I'm not sure if I ever went more than 12-15k between changes. I have never had an oil analysis done - but I suppose it's something that I should do with the extended intervals, well at least they are extended according to the car's manual, and not according to Amsoil.

I used to have a pre-luber on my Fj40 some years ago It wasn't Amsoil's brand, but someone else. I rebuilt the engine and then installed the pre-luber system. I only put 20k on the new engine before I sold it so I can't testify to the benefits - but it sure seems it takes a long time for oil pressure to build up in the the 2F after start, so I would think the preluber is a good thing.