Dizzy install from "scratch" (FJ60 big cap)

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Kent

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As most of you probably know from my recent threads the cruiser is going back together and getting it running is the current goal.

I've been searching, reading and pleading for help from you lately and thanks to mud I think I understand the procedure.

Lots of good advice on here but some of it is kind of sprinkled around in various threads.

I thought I would try to compile it all here so other noobies like me could get it without picking from several posts. I took pictures along the way since photos were harder to find during searching.

If any corrections need be made please chime in so inaccurate info isn't propogated.


First order is finding Top dead center of cylinder 1 (TDC). There is a small "pointer" in the window of the bell housing allowing you to see the flywheel. There is a line and a small BB. The line is TDC. The BB is 7 degrees before top dead center (BTDC).

The line

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The BB

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There are a couple of ways to be sure the piston is at TDC. You can remove the spark plug of cylinder 1 and place your finger over the hole and feel pressure building as you turn the crank. The pressure building up indicates the piston is coming up, eventually reaching TDC. You should see the line approaching the pointer in the window. Align the pointer and line after piston comes up and you should be at TDC. You can also check the rocker arms and push rods. Both valve springs should be extended and you can feel a slight play in the arms and pushrods. If you have the flywheel line and pointer matched and slight play in the rocker arms for cylinder 1 you are at TDC.

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Now to put the dizzy in. You will need to align several parts here. The end of the dizzy shaft is shaped like a flat blade screwdriver and it interfaces with the oil pump. This is critical as not seating it properly will prevent the pump from circulating oil.

The dizzy body has a slotted bolt hole that allows it to be rotated several degrees. This is how the timing is fine tuned. That slot lines up with the bolt hole in the engine block. The rotor and cap must be lined up so the #1 position is ready to fire. Don't forget the oil pump! Line up #1 on the dizzy cap with cylinder #4. The rotor must also line up with #1 on the cap. You may need to place the rotor so it is pointing between cylinder 3 and 4 before you lower the dizzy. This is because the rotor will turn a few degrees towards #4 as it meshes with the gear that drives it (in the engine block).

Turn the oil pump slot so it will align with the end of the dizzy as the dizzy is lowered into place.

Here is roughly where you want the oil pump slot. Turn it with a long flat blade screwdriver to get it into position if needed.

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Here is the dizzy lowered into position. Note that the rotor is pointed towards cylinder #4 and when the cap is placed back on, the #1 spark plug wire on the dizzy cap will be directly over the rotor.

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The important part: the dizzy must seat completely down. If the end of the shaft is not engaged in the oil pump slot you will have an approx 1/4" gap between the dizzy body and engine block.

Here it is fully seated...

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and from the bottom...

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Snug the bolt that holds the dizzy in place, allowing for you to turn the dizzy with your hand. You should now be able to start the engine and fine tune the timing using a timing light.
 
great write up! i follwed it to a "t" but for some reason i now cannot get spark to fire her up. Did you experience that or did everything go according to plan?
 
a few days ago i read this and followed the instructions: just the (TDC) part of it. it didn't fire so i was thinking that this is a four stroke engine; so the crank has to spin twice for the #1 cylinder to fire again. i just pulled out the dizzy and spin it 180 it fired right up.
 
I haven't attempted it yet...got my new oil pump installed and the pan put back on...waiting for that to settle overnight. I think I'll attempt this tomorrow...weather pending.
 
a few days ago i read this and followed the instructions: just the (TDC) part of it. it didn't fire so i was thinking that this is a four stroke engine; so the crank has to spin twice for the #1 cylinder to fire again. i just pulled out the dizzy and spin it 180 it fired right up.

ive never quite heard of just turning the distributor itself. in other words, you pointed it towards the battery?

if it doesn't fire, you are 180 off, I ran into the same problem when i installed my new distributor. turn the motor back over, preferably by hand, until the timing mark is back at "TDC" and complete the other steps, should start right up.
 
sorry about that, i meant to say 'i turned the rotor 180'

yes, sorry i meant to say that exact thing, interesting fix, i thought about it when i was installing, but all the things i was reading suggested to turn the motor instead of the (rotor) itself.

if you do that, wont you be firing in the wrong order still? because of the position of the terminals for each cylinder? wouldnt you have to reverse the way the cap is wired?
am i wrong in my logic with that? i'm interested to know.
 
the order is still the same. in a four stroke motor the crank actually spin two times around for all six cylinder to fire just one time. the piston actually goes down, up, down, up then fire. if it has only gone down then up one time, even though now the crank has actually turned 360, it has only gone two of the four cycles. it will take another down, up "another 360 of the crank" for that same cylinder to fire ones more. so when i had the TDC at the pointer, i was actually only half way through the four cycles. Kent went on about making sure that the piston was at the TDC. i skipped that and was 180 off. Kent's way is the way.
 
So, I'm a little confused on what the BB mark is for. If I'm driving mostly at 6-10K feet, should I be installing dizzy at TDC or at that BB mark?
 
So, I'm a little confused on what the BB mark is for. If I'm driving mostly at 6-10K feet, should I be installing dizzy at TDC or at that BB mark?

It won't make a difference. The BB is for the timing light.
 
Cool, I got it finally. I was trying to do it all myself, which made it a giant pain in the ass. I finally had my wife hold her finger over plug #1 hole while I turned the crank so I could figure out where true TDC was. Now I just need to get it timed up & running smooooove again! Thanks for this awesome write up & all the comments!
 
Technique works like a charm:beer:
 
Good article. Might make it a little more clear if your lead-in paragraph reads "top dead center on the compression stroke, since the #1 piston can be at top dead center without being on the compression stroke.
 

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