That's the reason I PM'd you about this kind of setup, not knowing you were actually working on it. I thought you were still doing the York version and not considering other compressors (electric) for this idea.
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Did you mean to phrase it that way!?!?
Actually it does not belong to me.
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Thanks. I should have read a few pages back and I would have seen that. When are you planning on release?MetalTech owners are taken care of by an available mount. I'm worrying about everyone else
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Well, I have the fittings and hose for the tank all worked out and sourced. I have the bracket going through final prototyping, I have the tank and compressors (if needed) worked out with VIAIR, so I'd like to finally make it available for pre-order next week and deliver by end of the month. The only thing with a lead time is the bracket and the new metal shop is trying to make sure I'm not treated the same as the other shop so we shall see.
The bolt-on manifold is pretty damn close as well. I working with a company that is trying to give me the aluminum block I need with all the ports sized the way I want them because I don't want any reducers if I can help it. The bracket itself is the same thing, I just need the prototype to mark up then its ready to go.
BTW, not everyone needs a tank. Not everyone needs the air manifold. Not everyone needs the York but I will have something for everyone.
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Well, now that I have one of Viair's 400C compressors and their 1.0 gallon tank, I've found that there are some additional options. I need to have my prototype bracket to work with instead of my fab'd mock-up but the idea is still valid. Both the tank and compressor can fit in the tray. But there are other options. I'll draw something up in a little bit.
Now that you have all the pieces, do you think the compressor and the 2.5 gal tank will fit all in the same place, on the bracket?
(maybe you can draw something up on your mac
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(maybe you can draw something up on your mac
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Now that you all all the pieces, do you think the compressor and the 2.5 gal tank will fit all in the same place, on the bracket?
(maybe you can draw something up on your mac
Yeah, not a lot of drawing going on right now
But can either compressor and 2.5 gallon work? Yes but it means hanging the tank off the front or below the bracket. Below is doable but that means it's 7" lower than the bracket. If it's cantilevered off the front of the bracket then it means I have to have another mounting location. The leverage would be too great for the design.
I am pretty sure it's not doable now this far into the R&D, but just as a thought out there. Would both fit if the bracket was mounted diagonally? Meaning the tank would have plenty of room and the compressor would (probably) have enough room to be placed within the created triangular shape space between the tank and the frame.
Possibly not even worth exploring this idea at this point.
Possibly not even worth exploring this idea at this point.
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Not really. The entire application is limited by the fuel filler pipe on the left, the exhaust on the right and the bottom of the cargo area. There are exposed holes on the cargo ribs that I could add a rivnut to. Right now the bottom of the bracket is 7.75" from the bottom of the cargo ribs. It's about where the tire carrier was. Adding the tank to the bottom brings the total lowered height to about where the saggy diaper spare was at secured height. Hard to say if it's worth putting there or not.
The other issue is the bung hole phasing on the tank. The tank must be oriented in a way that at least ONE hole is pointed down for the drain hole. On most tanks this means there is at least one position that isn't possible.
I could find a tank that could have complete mounting possibilities but the ones I've seen aren't the best quality and I'm not going to risk it.
The other issue is the bung hole phasing on the tank. The tank must be oriented in a way that at least ONE hole is pointed down for the drain hole. On most tanks this means there is at least one position that isn't possible.
I could find a tank that could have complete mounting possibilities but the ones I've seen aren't the best quality and I'm not going to risk it.
No, I wouldn't want anything hanging just like the original spare tire. Especially unprotected, as in the bottom of the bracket.
I played with the tire carrier the other day and that's a no go. There is virtually no room for a tank and or compressor on top of that thing. So I know the bracket need to be mounted as close as possible to the bottom of the frame rails, but I don't the tank to actually see how much space there is and the proper orientation of the compressor and tank.
I played with the tire carrier the other day and that's a no go. There is virtually no room for a tank and or compressor on top of that thing. So I know the bracket need to be mounted as close as possible to the bottom of the frame rails, but I don't the tank to actually see how much space there is and the proper orientation of the compressor and tank.
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Trying to work out the last pieces of the puzzle and the hard mounting of the Quick Disconnect coupler was one of them. Of course you could simply drill a hill and use the bulkhead connector/fitting that I'll supply. Or it can go into a simple L bracket that can be mounted anywhere. While I was messing around on my truck it dawned on me that it would be handy to have an SB50 source plug on the outside of the truck. This could be for a camping trailer or for solar or what have you. So I figured I'd try it out. I thought about making it a "C" instead of an "L" in case someone steps on it (in case its mounted on a bumper). But not so sure. Thoughts?
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Changed out the one piece dust plug to a two-piece stainless tethered dust cap. Also made up a simple bulkhead mounting bracket for a single quick disconnect coupler. It'll also have the tethered dust cap.
On a side note, I have all the of the components detailed, along with my costs, for the under hood air manifold. I'm considered adding some nifty touches before I work out a price. Soon, very soon.
This bracket setup:
• environmental boot for the Anderson SB50
• bulkhead fitting for 3/8" air hose on the back and air coupler in the front
• stainless steel tethered rubber dust cap
• 1/8" hole is for tether
• 3/8" hole is for a small carabiner to clip into (this is to keep the device side SB50 from falling off and getting damaged
• Custom bracket from stainless
• Powder coated
• Laser etched
• 10ft of 3/8" nylon air hose
• Mounting hardware
This bracket setup:
• bulkhead fitting for 3/8" air hose on the back and air coupler in the front
• stainless steel tethered rubber dust cap
• 1/8" hole is for tether
• Custom bracket from stainless
• Powder coated
• Laser etched
• 10ft of 3/8" nylon air hose
• Mounting hardware
On a side note, I have all the of the components detailed, along with my costs, for the under hood air manifold. I'm considered adding some nifty touches before I work out a price. Soon, very soon.
This bracket setup:
• environmental boot for the Anderson SB50
• bulkhead fitting for 3/8" air hose on the back and air coupler in the front
• stainless steel tethered rubber dust cap
• 1/8" hole is for tether
• 3/8" hole is for a small carabiner to clip into (this is to keep the device side SB50 from falling off and getting damaged
• Custom bracket from stainless
• Powder coated
• Laser etched
• 10ft of 3/8" nylon air hose
• Mounting hardware
This bracket setup:
• bulkhead fitting for 3/8" air hose on the back and air coupler in the front
• stainless steel tethered rubber dust cap
• 1/8" hole is for tether
• Custom bracket from stainless
• Powder coated
• Laser etched
• 10ft of 3/8" nylon air hose
• Mounting hardware
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