Winch Compatibility (1 Viewer)

[brockdeck]

Recently I purchased a Smittybilt X20 Synthetic 10K winch, and yesterday went to install it on my ARB Bumper on the 80. Realized that it is not directly compatible, and that I would likely need to get or make a kit to install it.

Is this necessary for the listed compatible Warn M8000/other Warn winches with the ARB bumper, or does any winch need a kit with spacers to properly mount it on the bumper?

I am considering exchanging the winch for an M8000 if it is fully compatible with ease. Not to mention probable less power draw, I am definitely reconsidering.

Thanks for the help all.

 

[tplane2]

M8000 Is a plug and play into the ARB

 

[baldilocks]

As far as I know all winch mounts are the same. Sizes do vary as far as the necessary space for figment.

What exactly are you referring to. Got any pics to post?

 

[cowboyjack]

Hhhmmmm... my Warn M12000 was a direct fit.

 

[RyRoRyan]

I have an smitty on mine. Yes it is a tight fit. It works great, but the free spool lever hits the bumper when you try to put it in free spool, so it has to stay engaged the entire time. Not ideal, but it works great otherwise. If you want to free spool it, then swap to the Warn, otherwise I will tell you that it will fit and will work just fine.

Note added: Mine is the previous gen XRC 10. Still the same idea though.

 

[74bruiser]

I had this problem too. Most of the new winches are made to mount feet down, not feet forward. I put a Zeon 10k on my ARB and had to get a spacer kit from Slee then make a custom mount for the control box. I'd get a M8000 and call it a day. Anything else isn't worth the hassle.

 

[baldilocks]

The ARB bumper won’t fit an M10,000? 8k is a little small for a loaded 80. Some feel a 10k isn’t really enough.

 

[74bruiser]

The ARB bumper won’t fit an M10,000? 8k is a little small for a loaded 80. Some feel a 10k isn’t really enough.

I don't think they make a M10,000 anymore, 8k or 12k are your options in that style..

 

[thebus]

i put in a super winch talon 12k,it needed spacers and re-clocking as well as extended wiring,custom solenoid mount and a WARN fairlead as superwinch roller fairlead will not work...if you want plug and play go with a warn,i'm happy i went with the talon,hell not sure i'll ever use it

 

[ThaiCruiser]

I think any Warn M Series (8K/12k/15k) will be a bolt-on fit, with the re-clocking it is. I run an M8000 on my 4Runner's ARB and it fits like a glove.

On a side note, I'd run the M12000 though, considering the weight of the 80 and other factors. If you decide to do M8000, just make sure you keep a snatch block or two handy.

 

[brockdeck]

Well, my main concern was the compatibility of the winch I currently own (X20 Smitty 10K synthetic line). Is an M8000 really too little? Im not completely expedition armored like many might be. No rack, ARB front and sliders + rear bumper eventually. Never load down crazy with fridges and such. 35 KO2s.

I've seen many run M8000 on fully loaded 80s so I had the impression it was enough. Overland Bound (gasp) runs one as well.

Although I liked what I was getting out of the smitty, if its plug & play and fully functional I will then swap to a Warn M8. What I do worry about is waterproofing.

 

[LandCruisinMy93]

Pictures of the predicament would certainly help a visual guy like myself see what the issue is. However, I have a warn 10k and half the time you can't get it to free spool anyway, that and my old m8000 had the same issue. May be in need of a cleaning and re-greasing. That out of the way 8k is fine for a cruiser...just don't get too stuck. Keep in mind that the 8k pulling power is only
Truly 8k if the cable is on its first wrap of the drum. Each successive wrap decreases pull power. Here is a article I just googled that explains this concept.
WARN Winch Performance Specifications: Pulling Capacity by Layer
So 10k is about as small as I would go for effective winching, then again I'm looking at the X2O 12k myself because my warm 10k is a little weaker than it used to be....now that I have a bunch of extra weight lol. I will probably use my 10k on a multimount for the rear.

 

[half k cruiser]

Recently I purchased a Smittybilt X20 Synthetic 10K winch, and yesterday went to install it on my ARB Bumper on the 80. Realized that it is not directly compatible, and that I would likely need to get or make a kit to install it.

Is this necessary for the listed compatible Warn M8000/other Warn winches with the ARB bumper, or does any winch need a kit with spacers to properly mount it on the bumper?

I am considering exchanging the winch for an M8000 if it is fully compatible with ease. Not to mention probable less power draw, I am definitely reconsidering.

Thanks for the help all.

You need to re-clock the winch so that the mounting feet face forward (usually a 10 minute job) and you may require two spacer blocks to get it back far enough from the bumper (standard is 1/2'' - 3/4'') The ARB will accept a ton of different winches because its got a huge winch pocket on it.

 

[Tapage]

Is an M8000 really too little?

it will always depends on how much trouble you would like to run at .. there is the snatch block trick too, but IMHO nothing less than 12K for an 80 ..

 

[ThaiCruiser]

Besides the vehicle's weight and traveling gear, you have to factor in the friction of the surface you get stuck and how deep it is. The 80 alone plus driver is right around 5000 lbs already.

 

[LINUS]

Im not completely expedition armored like many might be. No rack, ARB front and sliders + rear bumper eventually. Never load down crazy with fridges and such. 35 KO2s.

Although I liked what I was getting out of the smitty, if its plug & play and fully functional I will then swap to a Warn M8. What I do worry about is waterproofing.

I've had both M8K & M12K on 80's - frankly if I go solo rig in the woods I'm glad for my M12K.
Maybe some guys are fine with a M8K if all you roll is dry dirt, but with WA terrain how often it's mossy/wet, etc., I ignore anyone that says a M12K is overkill.
Just my opinion.

I have the armor but no expo stuff - I car camp but not into the whole overland gear/RTT agenda. Tent. Tarp. Stove. Done.

I am big on single compound setup just to get line off the spool & into deeper wraps - was near mandatory with the M8K.
It's slower but I'm not running a KOH event.

As for waterproof my M12K is now some 13-15yrs old & I pull it for grease & gaskets about every 5yrs-ish (sees use 3-4x/yr average, sometimes just to pull a project vehicle in the yard, move a downed tree after a storm, etc.) - my 80 is parked outside & all the water it sees has never been an issue.
Cumulative use has been enough to wear out the wire rope ~3yrs back when I converted to synth line & a hawse fairlead. I do scab a choker on the end if I'm doing anything yard/dirt/tree related now to extend the life of the synth stuff.

Full disclosure - I'm tonedeaf to anything but Warn, so no clue on Smitty, or any other - Warn is West Coast & they sell parts for their winches, end of the conversation as my vehicles go (have 4 Warns, even trying to mount one in my jet sled ) - your Smitty 10K may be better than running a M8K for pull, IDK.

 

[brockdeck]

I ended up getting an M8000. Why? I don’t winch that much, will carry a snatch, save weight, it’s made in the USA.

Now my problem is installing this thing on my ARB bull bar. The mounting kit is completely unavailable through ARB or any store. Are the spacers necessary? And then I just figure out how to mount the control box.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I’ve looked around but first time setting something like this up so I wanna do it right.

 

[LINUS]

^^^^^ Maybe I'm wrong due to new ARB designs, but I never had any mount kit on the LX450 & it was a ARB/M8K.

Had synth line & a offset hawse fairlead, I just had 4 bolts holding the feet forward.

Once you clock the spool clutch it was a bolt-on deal, maybe add the hose clamp & servo pack ahead of mounting (if you're not remote mounting it).

 

[ewillis]

Well, my main concern was the compatibility of the winch I currently own (X20 Smitty 10K synthetic line). Is an M8000 really too little? Im not completely expedition armored like many might be. No rack, ARB front and sliders + rear bumper eventually.

It's enough. Most, including myself prefer overkill; but the 8K will get it done.

 

[retrofive]

Without a snatch block at min the M8000 IME was a little under powered. Even now with a XD9000 feel the same. Do they work and are better than nothing sure. But this thread is about fitment and don't have the answer to that, other than it should able to work.