Wilderness camping around Ouray, CO?

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Rockets2000

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Some friends and I are taking a trip this summer from Houston to Durango to hit up some high country trails, and I'm having trouble finding campsites on the Alpine Loop. We're not looking for "campgrounds" full of RVs, but want to sleep under the stars and fight off bears and stuff. Does anyone know of some wilderness campsites around Silverton/Ouray that could handle 5-6 trucks and tents?

This will happen during the last week in July, so if anyone wants to offer guide services and join us, that would be cool. As it stands now I'll have the only Cruiser in the group. :cool:
 
Check the national forests in the area. Look for their motor vehicle use maps. Often they list where you can camp and do distributed camping if allowed.
 
I'll give away two of my favorite camping spots that fit that description. Please take good care of them...

First going south on 550 from Ouray, after you pass Ironton (which is just a sign now, IIRC) you'll come to Forest Road 886 that goes off to your left. It's right before the giant red mass of the retention facility below the Idarado Mine, which is a little further south.

There is some forest for a mile or so, then the climb begins up what is called Turntable or Corkscrew Gulch. It's a very windy road that sits on unstable ground, so gets regularly graded. Near the top of that area, you are roughly level with the site of the Silverton RR covered turntable, to the south across the creek in the bottom of the gulch. That's why it's called Turntable Gulch. There's very little left and you have to really look carefully to find it, but I digress...

Just when you get to the top of the climb out of the steep part of the gulch, the road levels out in a medium sized meadow to the left (north) of the trail. There are short trails that turn off and circle the meadow, where I've camped several times. A very nice spot, not above the tree line, but close. You'll see a lot of people drive by, depending on the day and weather, but you can get a little more privacy by camping on the far side of the meadow. It will easily accommodate half a dozen trucks.

FR 886 goes over the top and downhill into Gladstone, where another of the Mears narrow gauge shortlines, the Silverton, Gladstone and Northerly RR, that ran north from Silverton terminated.

The other location is found by taking Stony Pass east from 110 at Howardsville, which is also the route of the third narrow gauge line, the Silverton Northern RR, that continued and ran up to Eureka and Animas Forks. There you can hook up with sveral options to get you from Ouray and Lake City. But again, I digress, you're going east up Stony Pass through Cunningham Gulch on FR 520...

Stony Pass is pretty steep, but not a problem with a little care. Go over the top and continue east on FR 520. You'll ford the creek a couple times, IIRC and come to the Colorado Trail, which turns off south to -- are you ready -- Beartown! after briefly following along FR 520. It's not marked in my Delorme as a road, just shows the Colorado Trail. However, it definitely was a road the last time I was there, based on the signage. As you drive south to Beartown, watch for suitable camping locations on the left/east side of the gulch where the creek is. I won't tell you the exact spot that is my favorite, but you'll find it if you keep watching.

When you do, it is big enough to hide several vehicles behind the rocks and hill, but not so sure about six. Besides, the need for a greater part of the level ground for that many people will mean some tents, trailers will be in the meadow, as you're going to need more space than I do solo behind the rocks. There will be a few folks hiking along the road on the Colorado Trail, so be careful to watch for them, as the brush is a little high in spots so hard to see far around the curves. The road eventually dead-ends at the entry of the Colorado Trail into the wilderness area continues to the south. The turnaround point for vehicles was clearly marked when I was last there a few years back.

No bears, though, at least that I've seen. I could hear them going through peoples trashcans on the scanner, however, when listening to Durango police freqs, so you might come across one. It's just that so far, Beartown hasn't lived up to it's name for me -- and I'm actually OK with that;)

FR 520 continues east once you backtrack to it from the deadend at Beartown. After a fairly long run, say 20 miles? (watch your fuel situation, as there's no fuel for a ways once you get back on the pavement, either) FR 520 will eventually come to 149, which gives you the option of either Lake City or Creede on a very scenic drive. I usually come in from the east to Silverton and this is my shortcut from the last paved road, 149. It's also the original toll road into Silverton before it got all developed in, say 1880.

As always, check my directions and locations against current guidance from Rio Grande National Forest in the form of a MVUM that is up to date. Things changes, but I hope this hasn't, cause they're both great camping spots.

Sorry, no GPS coordinates, as the last time I was at either spot was pre-GPS for me. Also, sorry about all the train stuff. But that's another hobby. I have a layout that is centered on Silverton and these railroads, so the history is important to me. My avatar is a pic of me in Animas Forks, longer ago than I really want to admit. Me and the truck were both in a lot better shape. It's gone, I may be slow, but I get there.
 
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Wow. Thank you! I cannot wait to share this with the guys! You are more than welcome to join us.

:cheers:
 
Wow. Thank you! I cannot wait to share this with the guys! You are more than welcome to join us.

:cheers:

There's nothing I'd love to do right now than plan a trip to Colorado. It's been too long!

Alas, I have a dissertation to finish:frown:

Maybe in the fall I'll be able to get away, but the wife and I are hoping to take a long swing through Canada to Newfoundland and Labrador. I think the snow starts to fly thick both places at about the same time.

But, post some pics and give us a report. The route in from Creede via 149 works great for Texans. Matter of fact, they often call Lake City "Little Texas" so well worth the visit if you haven't been there yet. That gives you two routes, Engineer or Cinnamon, back from Lake City to Animas Forks.

Colorado 2012, here we come.:grinpimp:
 
we will be starting out from Durango, have a friend with a home there. On Monday we will go up to Silverton and start the trails.
 
If you're going up now, I'm sure we'll hear a snow report...

If a grader hasn't seen what you're driving on FR 886, take care. That's a prime place for a washed out trail. You might be able to get to the first camp above Corkscrew Gulch, but I suspect Beartown is pretty deep still.
:popcorn:
 
We won't be going until late July, so hopefully whatever snow we run into will be easily navigated. :D
 
we will be starting out from Durango, have a friend with a home there. On Monday we will go up to Silverton and start the trails.
Hi Coop! :cheers:
 
Great info! I was planning on doing some fly fishing this summer outside of Creede and now may have to extend my trip to include a bit more exploring! Thanks for the detailed info.
 
LOL, snow in July should not be a problem!:)
I will say that I got stuck on the east side of Cinnamon Pass one time in a sleet/hail storm, there where the shelf road is. It turned the whole mountain white as far as you could see. We just sat there in awe and I was thinking, "Great scene, no snowmobile necessary, and I won't die in an avalanche!";)

I'm not a fisher, but there should be some places along FR 520 closer to 149 that have enough water for fly fishing. There's also Rio Grande Reservoir along FR 520.
 
I would not mind a little bit of snow, but snow should not be a problem in July, but there was one time I was camping, the 4th of July, around 1988 at Alta Lakes and had to come out of the mountains because of a snow storm. It was a really wet snow and collapse my tent, so we went down to Telluride.

This should be a fun trip and thanks for the information.

We are planning to camp out Monday-Thursday and just do as many trails as we can.
Rockets2000 and a friend Curt, should have the most capable trucks. I think my new 87 Toyota should be able to handle the trails we plan on taking, my old 87 Toyota, did a few of them.
 
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Not a big snow year for us this time around so you will fine fine in July.

Those are some good camp spots. There are plenty more along the trails If you venture down the dead end trails you can camp along side most and not have very many if any visitors. Most people stick to the standard loops and don't explore.

Just don't camp above tree line for safety reasons (lightening) and impact to the environment.

There are lots of black bear in the San Juans. Use proper precautions and you will have no issues. They generally hang out where they know they can get garbage. In the back country most will run away at the sight of you.
 
hey...check out this website:
TrailDamage.com
hit me up when youre headed to Colorado....we love exploring 'round Ouray- beautiful part of our state...plus you have to have more than one Cruiser on the trip! Who else is gonna play recovery-mobile?

hit me up if you want, I'd love to go!
 
This will happen during the last week in July, so if anyone wants to offer guide services and join us, that would be cool. As it stands now I'll have the only Cruiser in the group. :cool:

A few of my choice large open spots in widely different location.

37.937274, -107.669071
37.857328, -107.810535
38.238599, -107.531318

Let me know when you go down. I'm right there and happy to come down if the timing is right.
 
Snow in July?

Don't count on no snow in July. My family and I lived in Montrose for @ 9 years and four-wheeled that area every year. We got stuck up on Engineer Pass on 4th of July weekend because the snow plow hadn't finished the job. It snowed on us that night, but what great memories! Prepare for anything, take warm clothes (layers). We used to camp up in the Corkscrew Gulch area. (there's an area near the stream that's just wonderful). Also, you can camp in spots up near Yankee Boy Basin and up on Black Bear Pass. Check the National Forest and BLM folks for ideas.
 
A few of my choice large open spots in widely different location.

37.937274, -107.669071
37.857328, -107.810535
38.238599, -107.531318

Let me know when you go down. I'm right there and happy to come down if the timing is right.


Thanks

The first place might work for one of the nights

keep in touch, right now it looks like we have my Toyota Pickup, Rockets2000 FJ40 and 5-7 jeeps going.
 
hey...check out this website:
TrailDamage.com
hit me up when youre headed to Colorado....we love exploring 'round Ouray- beautiful part of our state...plus you have to have more than one Cruiser on the trip! Who else is gonna play recovery-mobile?

hit me up if you want, I'd love to go!

anyone is more than welcome to join us,

We will have a couple of modified Jeeps and the FJ40 and then a couple of stock jeeps and my 87 Toyota pickup. So we will be doing a couple of different routes and maybe a little splitting up on some trails

Yesterday and today I found out my 87 Toyota will do a good job, as long as I am in 4 low, just don't have the torque in 4 hi and I have to be careful of the rear over hang.
 
Don't count on no snow in July. My family and I lived in Montrose for @ 9 years and four-wheeled that area every year. We got stuck up on Engineer Pass on 4th of July weekend because the snow plow hadn't finished the job. It snowed on us that night, but what great memories! Prepare for anything, take warm clothes (layers). We used to camp up in the Corkscrew Gulch area. (there's an area near the stream that's just wonderful). Also, you can camp in spots up near Yankee Boy Basin and up on Black Bear Pass. Check the National Forest and BLM folks for ideas.

Thanks, I am telling everyone to expect from 80's in the day to 30's at night, not sure we will see that, but as you said be prepared
 
coops2k said:
Thanks

The first place might work for one of the nights

keep in touch, right now it looks like we have my Toyota Pickup, Rockets2000 FJ40 and 5-7 jeeps going.

The first location is great for groups. I've camped there with 4 others all with trailers and motorcycles. See you then hopefully.
 

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