White-Knuckle Offroad Sliders

[5Cruiser]

All my 4runner buddies have sliders that weld on. Why is it that both these and Slee use u-bolts? I think I am more partial to weld on. Can one of post pics of the attachment point. Are there vertical gussets for strength?

They look great...very jealous...

 

[1loudLX]

ease of installation. Most 100 owners dont have a welder in their garage. I guess you COULD trim off the bottom hole where the u-bolts go and weld them on.

 

[moooooooo]

All my 4runner buddies have sliders that weld on. Why is it that both these and Slee use u-bolts? I think I am more partial to weld on. Can one of post pics of the attachment point. Are there vertical gussets for strength?

They look great...very jealous...

Mine have plates that are welded to the chassis and the sliders/side steps are bolted to those. I got them in Oz at Cheezy Racing.
That's my silver LC on their page before i got decent tyres.

They are so strong that they can be used as a jacking point and their welding is so good that they also can be used as an air reservoir should you need that.
cheers
peter

 

[LCHardriver_02]

I'm agree with Loud. Ease of install and the possibility of future removal, when these are like the 40s and people want to take them back to stock. If that will ever happen.

 

[moooooooo]

I'm agree with Loud. Ease of install and the possibility of future removal, when these are like the 40s and people want to take them back to stock. If that will ever happen.

definately go the U-bolt route if that's what you want. But i knew what i wanted and i researched it and i got what i wanted and i am very happy.

 

[LCHardriver_02]

I don't doubt it, but my welding mojo is extremely low... meaning I have never welded, so bolt on will be my route and probably most of the ones out there.

 

[moooooooo]

true.

But the price for the ARB style (U-bolts) vs the one i got was similar so i went with the smaller company with the bigger reputation

Edit: Just to be clear, they did all of the welding and fabrication.

 

[LCHardriver_02]

SWEET!

 

[moooooooo]

oh, and just for your info, the text on the site says it, but mine is a long wheel base (like all of us on here) so i have 3 mount points for the slider/side steps whereas the pics they have of the "open" sliders show two.

So yeah, 3 plates welded to the chassis on each side and it's bolted to that.
peter

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

OK correct me if I'm wrong but both sliders use U bolts to the frame before extending out to the main slider rail. As from the pictures Slee's look vertical sitting up against the body and WK are horizontal leaving small small gap. I would like to see them side by side to compare but either way the lowest point is going to be the same with the bracket at the frame and I would think maybe at most you might be off at most .25" at the main slider rail and that can be adjusted with a and the U bolts.

It's not the steel mounting part that I'm talking about. That is a non-factor.

It's where the tubing rests in relation to the body. The WK slider tubing sticks WAY out from the truck's body/rocker.

You'll see in my pics that the Slee tubing is tucked way up by the rocker. Ground clearance increase is quite notable. On tight and rocky trails (AZ for sure as well as other places) they have a definate advantage.

In a situation like 2000UZJ had in the off-camber dirt...who knows, maybe the Slee's would not have faired as well. But maybe so. Like I said though..."no one solution is best". For his trails maybe he has the best sliders. For my trails...no way. I just brought up the pros and cons for those looking to buy sliders.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Here's one I saw from 2000UZJ and Pman...maybe they have other pics to use for comparison

Not what we're comparing. That's a Slee Step Slider on the right...far less clearance though sure are convenient.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Oh...as far as bolt-on vs weld on. I'm a bolt-on guy for sure. MAKE SURE YOU TIGHTEN YOUR BOLTS REGULARLY. I did not do this and a year ago I was high-centered on two huge wet rocks. The wheels slid off and the truck dropped about a foot and a half. I thought a bomb went off. I actually slammed by slider into my rocker. Chaecking later...Slee was correct. The bolts needed some extra torgue. CRAP!

 

[Brock]

I have had both on my LX....Slee and White Knuckle. It really comes down to what you think is most needed....very high clearance that sits close to body or more lateral protection against off-camber or side hazards. I wheeled the Slee sliders but kept hitting back wheel on rocks...ours are not very big here in the east so mostly it is rocker damage or fender when getting too close in the tight turns we have on our trails.

For me I was willing to give up an inch or less of ground clearance and get more lateral protection. they are about a 30* angle up whereas the Slee are about 45* if not mistaken. I did not measure but there is a difference.

Slee's at Uwharrie....shows how they sit....and second pic they were being used heavily on DANIELs TRAIL at Uwharrie....but in third pic I was wishing they had some kick out at rear or increased lateral protection. Though it was not needed...I was glad it was drivers side and not passenger side that time. They worked outstanding...and except for wanting some kick out were perfect. If I was in western USA might want different but not sure.

White Knuckles in Western North Carolina.....

Final consensus.... they are both great products...both heavy as s***...both solid and well constructed. if absolute highest ground clearance is required..then go SLEE. If more concern on lateral hazards then go White Knuckle. Both are great products....just personal preference in my opinion.

 

[Anthony.L]

It's absolutely a case of "what do you wheel in". For me here in the Pacific NW my biggest obstacle is trees, stumps, tree roots, etc. In other words low to the ground objects on the edges of the trails that are trying to hit my doors and rockers. With the White Knuckle the extra amount they stick out compared to the Slee really helps keep those items off my sheet metal. Also the kick out in the rear is monumental in helping pivot the rear end around trees and stumps and saving the rear quarter panel of my LC from damage. I have to date used this feature countless times on the trails.

If I lived in Colorado or Utah and spent all my time moving over large boulder size rocks then my priorities would be different. I would want a slider with the most ground clearance. In that case, the Slee sliders would be the ticket.

Both Slee and White Knuckle are extremely well constructed and high quality. In that aspect neither will be a bad choice. Pick what wheelin' qualities you think you will need most for your application.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Great points! Exactly the reason I brought this up.

 

[boarderjab]

I kind of feel schooled. I learn something new every time I log in. So much good info. And I like the pics showing both Brock. Every time I see those kind of pictures I realize how much I want to get out of the the city.

 

[Brock]

According to John, he will soon have a set out for the 60 series Land Cruiser that look just like those on the Hundy!!!

 

[moooooooo]

Oh...as far as bolt-on vs weld on. I'm a bolt-on guy for sure. MAKE SURE YOU TIGHTEN YOUR BOLTS REGULARLY. I did not do this and a year ago I was high-centered on two huge wet rocks. The wheels slid off and the truck dropped about a foot and a half. I thought a bomb went off. I actually slammed by slider into my rocker. Chaecking later...Slee was correct. The bolts needed some extra torgue. CRAP!

with regards to tightening bolts..yeah you should do that with anything bolted on to your Landcruiser.

While i'm here, my side-steps dont protude out as much as the flimsy aluminium factory ones i had (you USA people call it aluminum or something) and they've already saved me $$$ when i slid on a muddy track and thought nothing of it until i was told otherwise (i'd hit a tree that i thought i had cleared).

i still have a dent/dint (?) in my L/H sill where i hit a rock the week before i got mine.
cheers
peter

 

[hoch]

I was set on the Slee step sliders, but I think these will be even better. With the angle of the step sliders, the GC should be the same, if not a little better. Plus, the price is right. Unless Slee decides to do a black Friday or Cyber Monday specials...

If I get these, I hope I'm able to get it angled out even more (another 10-15 degrees or so?) to make it even more step friendly. Plus, help protect even better against runaway shopping carts and inattentive door openers.

 

[Anthony.L]

The White Knuckle sliders are already angled out plenty to make for an easy step.