i warned you th at it would be a heated debate,
and i don think a ring is simply going to fall off????
ok anyway
meh
Whats the infactuation w/ Beadlocks......seriously
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i warned you th at it would be a heated debate,
and i don think a ring is simply going to fall off????
ok anyway
meh
I have seen lots more cast rims fail (lip rips off) and I have NEVER heard of a beadlock rim falling off.. In fact, the only beadlock rim that I have ever heard of failing was a carbon fiber rim. and it simply lost air..
The debate is heated because there is no real proof that a beadlock rim is illegal.. It is all internet and magazine folklore..
If a rim is DOT stamped there should be no "insurance" issue.
The debate is heated because there is no real proof that a beadlock rim is illegal.. It is all internet and magazine folklore..
If a rim is DOT stamped there should be no "insurance" issue.
I am not a bead lock expert nor am I an legalities expert........
you are not allowed to alter rims in any way shape or form (law)......
if your rims were manufactured with and for beadlocks then there should be no legal restrictions on running them.
you are not allowed to alter rims in any way shape or form (law)......
if your rims were manufactured with and for beadlocks then there should be no legal restrictions on running them.
so you add weight to balance a tire and its illegal, or you add a chrome valve stem, or some sweet paint
and what does insurance have to do with all this anyway
ill be back im gonna throw in some popcorn and get a soda
that is not altering a rim
1. We are not talking about insurance, we are talking about law.. two different things. But on that note I know folks who have wrecked beadlock equipped rigs, zero issues. I know folks that have wrecked rigs with non-airbag compliant bumpers, zero issues. I have had insurance companies send me a check for a non-airbag compliant bumper... to be installed on an airbag equipped rig. I have had insurance companies pay me to fix a sprung over FJ40, that was several inches above the legal height and had illegal bumpers front and rear. Nothing is black and white, to say your SOL in the event of an accident because you have beadlocks is not only misleading but statistically false.
2. From a user, engineering, and practical standpoint... I would argue ALL day long that not only are beadlocks equal or greater in strength, but they are far more durable to boot. No ifs ands or buts about it. I have never heard nor seen a single beadlock faulure, on or off the rig, even in my years of competative rockcrawling where rigs get bashed beyon beleif. Sorry, it just doesn't happen. Worst case scenario in my mind is that the bolts (36 3/8 lockwashered per rim in my case) could come loose. But LONG (like 1/2" of thread) before the ring could even begin to seperate, the tire would lose air. And it wouldn't be a sudden air loss, it would be proportional to the loosening of the bolts.... So short of 36 bolts shearing or stripping.... nothing is going to happen.
Why are they not advertised as DOT approved (even though I maintain they are DOT ok in Utah at least)... Because the companies have not paid the $$$ to crash beadlock equipped rigs into a wall, etc as needed to get the DOT stamp of approval. Does that make them illegal, not IMHO.
So, back on the beadlocks themsdelves as opposed to the legalities... I popped a bead off last weekend at Chile Challenge with 17 psi.
What's the most cost effective beadlock? I'm looking for 15x8. Are they just outside or also inside? (I think it was the inside that popped off...)
What's the most cost effective beadlock? I'm looking for 15x8. Are they just outside or also inside? (I think it was the inside that popped off...)
rusty_tlc
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My rig is fugly, nobody would mistake it for a Mall crawler. I think people actually avoid parking next to me at the mall.
Right now I have 36" TSL Swampers, I like the way they hook up on rock at 7 or 8 psi. But by the end of the day on a trail like Rubicon I have bled out enough pressure that they can be down to 0 PSI which will still keep them on the rim if I don't roll them on an obstacle. I'd love to have bead locks.
On a gravel road run like High Rock Canyon/ Black Rock desert I run them at 12 PSI and never lose a # of pressure. No need for bead locks on those roads.
I'd say the need is based on the trails you run.
And yes there are probably a lot of people that have them just for looks. But the same could be said of sliders, nose hoops, etc. Just because they are popular for the look doesn't mean that they don't have a real function.
diy are ganna be the cheapest if you can diy
used ones would be next
most are on the outside of the wheel (away from the vehicle
internals are both i think
holy blast from the past
used ones would be next
most are on the outside of the wheel (away from the vehicle
internals are both i think
holy blast from the past
1. true
2. you couldnt pay me to run diy beadlock just for looks. pita just to look kool
iheartbeadlocks
Stauns are a good compromise if you do not want to deal with locks..
Recentered hummer rims are probably the most cost effective.
What is your available funds?
The really cheap locks are seriously weak.
Recentered hummer rims are probably the most cost effective.
What is your available funds?
The really cheap locks are seriously weak.
Stauns are over $150 each - Isn't that about the same as Allied or MRT? How are they? My available funds need to be split with as much other stuff as possible...
Thanks...
Adventure Teq
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hummers are not dot approved and cannot be bought surplus . you can strip off all the parts and the body has to be ground up on site .years ago some escaped whole due to a loophole , thanks usmc , same goes for some other military trucks as well .if you cant buy a hummer from the military are hummer wheels dot aproved when the vehicle itself is not thanks and good luck
You do realize that they sell Civilian hummers right?
The stauns are not the cheapest option, but they let you basicaly run whatever rim you want, they are a double beadlock, and can also act as a runflat..
Oh yeah, they balance out very well... Weld on locks sometimes are a bear to balance...
there's your answer on 90 percent of the vehicles you see. that said, beadlocks would've been nice with the bfgs on my 60 ,which routinely lost air due to the crap "rim protection" that bfg put on, but i couldn't use beadlocks because of said crap "rim protection"
mines arould there. i think 35. There are alot. i dont like the 15 bolt bead locks. Seem like alot of force on each bolt. I have seen some bolt head break before. I seen many break from corr racing from wheel to wheel contact. Bead locks have save me MANY trips from getting out and taking the co2 out. But it really suck after they leak air and you have a rear locker
If driver error is utilizing lower pressures in the tires for greater traction...
Or it could be taking a more challenging line, I guess that could be driver error.
I did a set of DIY on my 4Runner and I have one less thing to worry about on the trail
If they are illegal anywhere, it would probably be California.
What about the EZ sleazy cheapo bead locking method that uses about 30 self tapping sheet metal screws through the rim and into the bead? No welding involved and they are as light as regular rims. This was getting some serious attention on Pirate about a year ago.
What about the EZ sleazy cheapo bead locking method that uses about 30 self tapping sheet metal screws through the rim and into the bead? No welding involved and they are as light as regular rims. This was getting some serious attention on Pirate about a year ago.
