What kind of shop building do you have - metal building or wood?

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I'm getting quotes on my new shop building and wanted to know what brand of metal building anyone out there has or recommends? I'm looking at 40x80.

If you did something other than metal, what did you do?

Thx
 
With that size, I'd say metal is the way to go. We did a metal building at my dad's and my only dislike is that we can't get longer trailers in it, backing straight in. But with a 40' short side, you should be good to go.
 
With that size, I'd say metal is the way to go. We did a metal building at my dad's and my only dislike is that we can't get longer trailers in it, backing straight in. But with a 40' short side, you should be good to go.
What brand?
 
I believe it's a Mueller. The guys who put it up brought it out in a kit. We finished the inside with insulation and OSB.
What was price tag and are you happy with it ? I'm shopping for same size. What's the roof pitch?
 
You should start talking to the County about their requirements before you get too far with manufacturers. You want to tell the manufacturer what your County's requirements are before you start getting pricing, otherwise, as you go through permitting your costs will grow, and then you're having to alter your plans to meet your budget.
Snow load is going to be your biggest "issue". I know that a few "barn style" sheds have collapsed in your area in recent years.
I'm sure you know all this, though.
 
And talk to Leadhead. He can let you know what he had to do to get his shop permitted and signed off.
 
What was price tag and are you happy with it ? I'm shopping for same size. What's the roof pitch?

I don't know exactly what the total was, it's my dad's place and he was writing the checks. The concrete & dirt work was around $4-5k, the building was around $7-8k plus erecting, had to add a meter and line from the street (power company gave a pretty big credit for this), plus an access door, big window unit AC, Interior electrical & lights, insulation, & OSB. I'm guessing it was north of $20k.

I don't think he had to get a permit to build, he's not in a city. I see other people build stuff out there in the easements regularly, so it really depends on where you are concerning permits.

Roof pitch is 12/4 or less I'm guessing. Mueller has different models on their website, for high wind, snow, etc.

I think he's pretty happy with it. It stays pretty warm in the winter with kerosene heater and is tolerable in the summer with AC (anything is better than 105°). Has 220v outlets for welders. The only thing I wish it had is a heavy duty scissor lift to pick up vehicles & trailers.
 
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Looked at this a while back, the cheepest was steel for larger stuff, small stuff like a 2 car was cheeper to do stick built. Most of the stuff up here is pole barn construction enclosed and then the floor poured. the 20k figure isn't far off for a starting point, depends on how big and how much you do yourself. if you pay someone to build it it will get expensive fast.. you could spend 20k in dirt work and concrete...
 
40' x 80' Mueller building kit was around 25K with shipping. About 22K lbs of steel.
I live in the county and still required permits. You might have to talk to someone in permitting for that size (sf).
I had to have the foundation design engineered as per county code. The steel was engineered by Mueller to my county specs.
 
You should start talking to the County about their requirements before you get too far with manufacturers. You want to tell the manufacturer what your County's requirements are before you start getting pricing, otherwise, as you go through permitting your costs will grow, and then you're having to alter your plans to meet your budget.
Snow load is going to be your biggest "issue". I know that a few "barn style" sheds have collapsed in your area in recent years.
I'm sure you know all this, though.
Thx. Good idea.
 
You should start talking to the County about their requirements before you get too far with manufacturers. You want to tell the manufacturer what your County's requirements are before you start getting pricing, otherwise, as you go through permitting your costs will grow, and then you're having to alter your plans to meet your budget.
Snow load is going to be your biggest "issue". I know that a few "barn style" sheds have collapsed in your area in recent years.
I'm sure you know all this, though.
I talked to county a few months ago. They have no problem with the size and location. They just want their permit fees. Yes, we have snowload requirements. I'm looking at a steel frame sheet metal building with 4:12 pitch roof.
 
Looked at this a while back, the cheepest was steel for larger stuff, small stuff like a 2 car was cheeper to do stick built. Most of the stuff up here is pole barn construction enclosed and then the floor poured. the 20k figure isn't far off for a starting point, depends on how big and how much you do yourself. if you pay someone to build it it will get expensive fast.. you could spend 20k in dirt work and concrete...
Thx. Good information.
 
I'm getting quotes on my new shop building and wanted to know what brand of metal building anyone out there has or recommends? I'm looking at 40x80.

If you did something other than metal, what did you do?

Thx

My situation is very different so my data may be of little use to you. Nine years ago, we bought a fairly new home with an existing 40 by 80 foot shop. The shop is block construction with brick veneer on the two sides which face out (the other two sides face the retaining wall and woods). The walls are 12 foot tall with the trusses angled up (providing over 15 feet of clearance down the center of the building). This allowed me the freedom to install the lift where I wanted without restriction, plus I bought a lift with an extra 2 feet clearance for tall vehicles.

I have done some repairs and updates, so I do know that size does matter on costs. Here is a picture that shows part of the front.
Good luck on getting your shop done. I don't know how I lived without it all those years.
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My situation is very different so my data may be of little use to you. Nine years ago, we bought a fairly new home with an existing 40 by 80 foot shop. The shop is block construction with brick veneer on the two sides which face out (the other two sides face the retaining wall and woods). The walls are 12 foot tall with the trusses angled up (providing over 15 feet of clearance down the center of the building). This allowed me the freedom to install the lift where I wanted without restriction, plus I bought a lift with an extra 2 feet clearance for tall vehicles.

I have done some repairs and updates, so I do know that size does matter on costs. Here is a picture that shows part of the front.
Good luck on getting your shop done. I don't know how I lived without it all those years.View attachment 1000752
Looks good! Got any pics of those trusses?
Thx
 
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Few to keep in mind with pre-engineered steel buildings:

Increasing pitch does not reduce loading, meaning a 4:12 does not reduce the load criteria anymore so than 1:12, from a lbs PSF perspective.

4:12 will NOT eliminate ice damming at the gutter, potentially causing much greater issues with water penetration at the eave, using PBR roof and wall panels.

4:12 is mo money, considering colored roof is almost a must and frame sizes increase beyond lesser pitched, again, because pitch doesn't lessen loading.

Based on experience, the best manner to approach is finding a local metal building contractor.

They are typically adept in building criteria, can offer basic general contracting services, say floor, shell, doors, itch, for less than what a DIYer can, provide a better finished product in a fraction of the time.



With concrete averaging $100 a yard in the southwest, that would not get much of a poured floor.

In the same geographical area, with minimal footing requirements, going rate on finished floors and footings is ~$4.25 PSF on jobs ranging for 2-4k SF with basic 4" floors and 12"x18" footings.



There's no different model for any loading requirements, regardless how marketed, since each geographical area dictates distinctly different and buildings are pre-engineered accordingly.

They, like others that market to the DIYer, typically market varying degrees of trim packages that increase in cost, accordingly.

Not throwing them under the bus, because they're, by far, the most successful in the niche market they service, but it's common practice to put a cheap price on a website, one that includes just about enough to call it a completed shell, but lacks the fit and finish common the industry standard.

Not saying it's deceptive marketing, because it is the consumers responsibility to be informed, but base trim packages aren't typically gracing the front page of the website, plus many DIYers don't know the difference in the actual products, anyway.

Where one has to be cautious as a DIYer is reading the fine print on the contracts, from what IS included, to even adding freight and sales taxes after the fact.

Unsolicited advice to any considering is to find a local metal building specific contractor that had projects that can be driven by and visually inspected, that can handle the foundation and building shell to a "dried in" state. ( use your own licensee trades, if you wanna save the typical 20% GC fee )

Finished product quality will far exceed what a DIYer is capable and for a lot less money, regardless the cheap prices for materials you'll see on the internet, since they're but a fraction of completed costs anyway.
Thanks.Good info.
 

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