Thats right, they make them safer and more powerful and more comfortable. As technology advances this is put into newer cars therefore yes, they dont make them like they used to
What is the life of a Land Cruiser?
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Thats right, they make them safer and more powerful and more comfortable. As technology advances this is put into newer cars therefore yes, they dont make them like they used to
I think he was probably referring to the durability, ease of repair, cost of repair, etc. - that is the long economic life. Newer cars with more technology are also built to be more disposable - they're not really built for long life. Proper maintenance requires more technology with greater dependency on well equipped shops and dealers rather than lower cost shade tree mechanics and such. In other words newer cars are not built for long economic life like the old LCs. This is not a good trend for the longevity of newer LCs and LXs - comfortable and safe and fast though they may be. Long vehicle life requires that someone step up for the care and feeding. Keep in mind also the newer safety features that eventually fail and turn into safety hazards. 80 owners (and early 100 owners) seem generally to be pretty "comfortable" without those features.
I dont think the 200 is any less durable than the 100 and the 100 to the 80 etc. if anything, the 200 is more robust than the 100. CV axle failures are frequent in the 100 forum and the 200 forum is very rare.
The 100 has the same longevity as the 80, while the 80 has HG issues the 100 and 200 engines have yet to need any rebuild or attention. Change the Oil change and go.
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No doubt the 100 series land cruiser were built with pride and extremely over engineered. It will last many decades, the 200 series haven't been around long enough for us to make any valid claims on reliability. They have more features so more things can fail but drivetrain wise, trust me the 5.7 is as bulletproof as the 4.7. Here's a Tundra 5.7 on its original drivetrain, he uses it for work so drives like 500 miles a day.
I've only heard of water pumps leaking very early on the 200s and the starter starts to go out after 100K miles. Thank god the WP is on the outside and can be replaced fairly easily, I just did one on my Tundra and it wasn't too bad.
I'm in the process of shopping for a 2011 LX570 and have been looking up and down the coast for the one that fits my criteria.
I've only heard of water pumps leaking very early on the 200s and the starter starts to go out after 100K miles. Thank god the WP is on the outside and can be replaced fairly easily, I just did one on my Tundra and it wasn't too bad.
I'm in the process of shopping for a 2011 LX570 and have been looking up and down the coast for the one that fits my criteria.
The 200's all have kdss, I had a 2010 4runner with kdss. Failure isn't common but mine failed and it was a nightmare to fix. Nobody knew how to work on it by me, including dealers. And at the time nobody had figured out a kdss delete with alot of custom Fab work. I ended up selling it for cheap.
You drive a Pruis, really!
I voted 500k+. IMO, as long as you keep rust at bay and are willing to spend the money on maintenance these trucks will run indefinitely.
Heck, if not for rust I'd be running my grandfather's FJ60 right now.
Heck, if not for rust I'd be running my grandfather's FJ60 right now.
Cruisers are just basically airplanes for the road. Keep them maintained and they'll run for ever.
Lol yep on volks and coilovers lol.
I paid $5000 for my 99 with 300k 6 years ago. I was thinking if I get to 350k I would be happy with the purchase. In the time of my ownership I have changed the timing belt, radiator, alternator, fuel pump, brake pump and suspension with most of the suspension bushing.
Currently at 340k and could use a new steering rack, brakes and seats need replacement leather. Even with the repairs I feel I am better off than having a monthly car note. Most likely keeping her and going for 400k.
Currently at 340k and could use a new steering rack, brakes and seats need replacement leather. Even with the repairs I feel I am better off than having a monthly car note. Most likely keeping her and going for 400k.
I bought my 2002 with 105,000 miles on it about 4 or 5 years ago now. I'm right up under 222,222 miles... probably tomorrow I'll take the obligatory picture. I am in the process of spending $10,000 on it. Truth be told I could buy another newer cruiser... I like mine. For $90,000 I'd get a few more bells and whistles... I'm adding bluetooth integration and I have plenty of tablets that I can mount in it for gadgetry... As I write this I'm thinking that adding sprint drive for on board internet is starting to sound like a good idea...
Yes the damn thing burns too much gas. But I like how it sounds, now that I've changed the shocks I really like how it rides, I like how it looks, I like the space that it has... but it doesnt feel huge... I do wish I could replace the in dash screen to one with higher resolution.
I've fixed all the rust that we could find, and we called our selves fixing all the dents and painting it... but I know where they are so I can still see them a little bit....
If you want a truck that people look at an think... "Nice new truck...ooo you have the latest, you have crawl control,ooo" An old cruiser is an object... but it's also something of a friend. My dad passed 6 or 7 weeks ago... I look over at the passenger door switch controls where he tore the plastic cover off and think about him and how he liked to ride in it... and how every time we get snow here, he'd just have to go out in his VW... no matter how deep it was and that may be part of why I now have a cruiser.
Most any well cared for cruiser will last until the owner gets sick of it. The question is...why would the owner get sick of it? After a while the question is no longer... will my cruiser make to 300 or 400, 000 miles ... to lets change the timing belt and drive it to alaska to put 10,000 miles on it.
Like I said I could buy another cruiser... but I'm actually looking at getting a tundra or a tacoma so I can stop throwing stuff in the back of the cruiser to make the interior last longer...
We should start a cruisers forever sub group for people that are determined to drive the their cruisers until the drop... not the truck
Yes the damn thing burns too much gas. But I like how it sounds, now that I've changed the shocks I really like how it rides, I like how it looks, I like the space that it has... but it doesnt feel huge... I do wish I could replace the in dash screen to one with higher resolution.
I've fixed all the rust that we could find, and we called our selves fixing all the dents and painting it... but I know where they are so I can still see them a little bit....
If you want a truck that people look at an think... "Nice new truck...ooo you have the latest, you have crawl control,ooo" An old cruiser is an object... but it's also something of a friend. My dad passed 6 or 7 weeks ago... I look over at the passenger door switch controls where he tore the plastic cover off and think about him and how he liked to ride in it... and how every time we get snow here, he'd just have to go out in his VW... no matter how deep it was and that may be part of why I now have a cruiser.
Most any well cared for cruiser will last until the owner gets sick of it. The question is...why would the owner get sick of it? After a while the question is no longer... will my cruiser make to 300 or 400, 000 miles ... to lets change the timing belt and drive it to alaska to put 10,000 miles on it.
Like I said I could buy another cruiser... but I'm actually looking at getting a tundra or a tacoma so I can stop throwing stuff in the back of the cruiser to make the interior last longer...
We should start a cruisers forever sub group for people that are determined to drive the their cruisers until the drop... not the truck
I'm at 205k in my 01 LX, bought it last summer at 187k. I enjoy driving it, modding it and fixing the lil things that happen at its age. I think I should get another 200k/12yrs from it pretty easy before it goes to my oldest kid. I also have an Evo X, so it's yin & yang but both AWD fun.
Only thing that can kill this beast will be a car crash or stupid thief. I got a rust free Socal copy.
Only thing that can kill this beast will be a car crash or stupid thief. I got a rust free Socal copy.
We'll have to write in the will "please note my death on ih8mud cruisers forever sub group".
I purchased my 100 series 2 years ago with 185K on the clock; sitting at 207K currently and fully expecting to get to 300K without major issues. The truck has been pretty well maintained so far and I'm trying to do my part to keep it running smoothly. The supercharger is the only wildcard for me, but worst case scenario I'd just have it removed and go back to stock.
These UZ engines are fantastic.
I have a 1999 LC that has required some good amount of repairs to keep it on the road, especially in the front end at 250k miles. However, after the rack and pinion and CVs, UCA, ball joints, wheel bearings and rotors, I hope the front end rebuilding is finally complete for the next 250k. All of this starts to cost as much as a LC is worth...
My LS430 has been flawless. 3UZ badassness. Brakes, battery and TB changes only.
I have a 1999 LC that has required some good amount of repairs to keep it on the road, especially in the front end at 250k miles. However, after the rack and pinion and CVs, UCA, ball joints, wheel bearings and rotors, I hope the front end rebuilding is finally complete for the next 250k. All of this starts to cost as much as a LC is worth...
My LS430 has been flawless. 3UZ badassness. Brakes, battery and TB changes only.
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I think those repairs are well within reason though, a big heavy rig seeing offroad use... Toyota engineers can't change the fact that materials wear, and they can only get so big before the size becomes the constrain... bearings wear, tires wear, rotors wear... aside from those consumables, my experiences are that the rest of those items you replaced, most of them could have continued for a long while before catastrophic failure occured. 250k miles is more than most other vehicles last in general and the 100 series seems to be pretty solid on the "graceful degradation" front (aside from the LX470 and the AHC system... )
Same here. Owned LS's for over 20 years now. Miles go on the LS (or GX). Fun trips are for the LX. $/mile in maintenance is a lot less (not even talking about fuel). But you must have changed the LS caster bushings by now? I just did. Night and day difference.
LX is the forever cruiser (fingers crossed).
