What did you do with your Tundra or Sequoia this weekend? (1 Viewer)

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CaptRussia253 said:
Thank you! We sold our GX for it since we need more room for kids and dogs. Best decision I’ve made. The 5.7 is unreal.

Checkout my build on the gx and Tundra.
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Builds - 2017 GX 460 (Now 2017 Tundra Build)

I just purchased a GX 460 last week. It didn’t come with a owners manual. I need some advise on diff, transfer case and transmission fluid. Do I need a 75w85 or will a w90 or w140 be fine? I normally ran a thinker fluid in all my off road rigs. I have read that running a regular Dino oil in the...
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I also have a 4runner on 35s. I love Toyotas!

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All your vehicles look fantastic. Are those 37s on the Tundra?
 
Recently rolled over the 10K mile mark for my '21. Husky floormats showed up, as well as bumpstops, leaf springs, shackles etc. Starting to assemble a little build. Waiting on a few more components and then I've got some wrenching to do.

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Dindu Nuffin said:
Got tired of how the truck drove with the 315/75-16s on 80 series wheels and 1" spacers, so I threw the stockers back on to see if their correct offset fixed the issues. They did, so now I have a set of 255/85-17 Mickey Thompsons on the way. They should be on Tuesday or Wednesday and I'll post pics with it flexed out.

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What part of how it drives you didn't like?
I have plan to install my OEM 80 wheels with 315 on my 1st gen also.
 
efjayatee said:
What part of how it drives you didn't like?
I have plan to install my OEM 80 wheels with 315 on my 1st gen also.
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The steering wheel would get jerked all over the place off road, the truck would follow ruts like a MF'r on the road and never drove straight without constant steering inputs, it was squirrely under braking, steering was really heavy at low speeds, it rubbed a LOT whenever the steering was turned off road, I felt a lot of torque steer when using AWD on uneven road surfaces (think a steep snowy road or sandy climb), I was chewing through front bearings, and my fender flares began to self- clearance themselves.

My main reason for going with the 80 wheels was that it'd give me a half inch more sidewall than the OEM wheels, the 80 wheels are brick s***houses and are dirt cheap.

Fitting the 80 series wheels, I came up against caliper clearance issues. It was either grind the caliper or grind the backside of the spokes of the wheel. Neither of those are appealing to me, so I got spacers. Factory wheel offset is 15mm; 80 series wheels are 0mm. I tried 15mm spacers and the tire hit the UCA, so I went up to 1" spacers to get it off the arm. Once I did that, the scrub radius went positive by about 40mm and that's when s*** went sideways. It was enough to change the character of the truck to the point where I hated driving it and wanted to sell the truck.

I'm running a 4" bracket lift with SPC UCAs with 80 series rear springs with 2" spacers and long travel Dobbie shocks. I should have a TON of room for the 35s. I know guys run 315/70-17s on the stock wheels with acceptable clearance/clearancing, but the stock wheels are 7.5" wide and that's too skinny for 315's IMO. Even after a lot of pinch weld beating and trimming and fiddling with caster adjustments with the UCA's, the outer shoulder of the tire would barely clear the firewall on level ground, didn't take much up travel to get it the outside shoulder of the tire to rub the firewall and not much more up travel for the inside shoulder would hit the frame.

The stock wheels and tires completely fixed all my gripes in terms of on road handling. It was such an immediate and drastic change/improvement and so pleasant to drive that my "just around the block" test drive turned into a six hour road trip. I can't express enough how big a breath of fresh air it was to drive the truck this way after six years of fighting the 80 series/spacer setup. And as a side note- 4.88's with stock wheels is the s***. Less downshifting in the hills and better off the line performance.

So, after such dramatic results on road results, I took it up an easy trail and some fire roads. All of the aforementioned bad behaviors off road were gone and I fell back in love with the truck. Flexing it out to the bump stops and eyeballing the tire-hard part clearances showed me that I have enough room for the pizza cutters everywhere except at full lock at full stuff where they might very slightly rub on the frame.

The tires show up tomorrow and will be on the truck either tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday morning. I can't say that the pizza cutters will be the way to go just because they're not on yet, but I can tell you that the few positives the 80 wheels bring to the table (strength and more sidewall) are vastly overridden by all the negative traits that pop up.

I'd say come borrow the old setup for a week to see for yourself if you lived in UT, so all I can really say is if you value the drivability of the truck, seriously reconsider the 80 series wheels. Hope that answers your question.
 
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Dindu Nuffin said:
The steering wheel would get jerked all over the place off road, the truck would follow ruts like a MF'r on the road and never drove straight without constant steering inputs, it was squirrely under braking, steering was really heavy at low speeds, it rubbed a LOT whenever the steering was turned off road, I felt a lot of torque steer when using AWD on uneven road surfaces (think a steep snowy road or sandy climb), I was chewing through front bearings, and my fender flares began to self- clearance themselves.

My main reason for going with the 80 wheels was that it'd give me a half inch more sidewall than the OEM wheels, the 80 wheels are brick s***houses and are dirt cheap.

Fitting the 80 series wheels, I came up against caliper clearance issues. It was either grind the caliper or grind the backside of the spokes of the wheel. Neither of those are appealing to me, so I got spacers. Factory wheel offset is 15mm; 80 series wheels are 0mm. I tried 15mm spacers and the tire hit the UCA, so I went up to 1" spacers to get it off the arm. Once I did that, the scrub radius went positive by about 40mm and that's when s*** went sideways. It was enough to change the character of the truck to the point where I hated driving it and wanted to sell the truck.

I'm running a 4" bracket lift with SPC UCAs with 80 series rear springs with 2" spacers and long travel Dobbie shocks. I should have a TON of room for the 35s. I know guys run 315/70-17s on the stock wheels with acceptable clearance/clearancing, but the stock wheels are 7.5" wide and that's too skinny for 315's IMO. Even after a lot of pinch weld beating and trimming and fiddling with caster adjustments with the UCA's, the outer shoulder of the tire would barely clear the firewall on level ground, didn't take much up travel to get it the outside shoulder of the tire to rub the firewall and not much more up travel for the inside shoulder would hit the frame.

The stock wheels and tires completely fixed all my gripes in terms of on road handling. It was such an immediate and drastic change/improvement and so pleasant to drive that my "just around the block" test drive turned into a six hour road trip. I can't express enough how big a breath of fresh air it was to drive the truck this way after six years of fighting the 80 series/spacer setup. And as a side note- 4.88's with stock wheels is the s***. Less downshifting in the hills and better off the line performance.

So, after such dramatic results on road results, I took it up an easy trail and some fire roads. All of the aforementioned bad behaviors off road were gone and I fell back in love with the truck. Flexing it out to the bump stops and eyeballing the tire-hard part clearances showed me that I have enough room for the pizza cutters everywhere except at full lock at full stuff where they might very slightly rub on the frame.

The tires show up tomorrow and will be on the truck either tomorrow afternoon or Wednesday morning. I can't say that the pizza cutters will be the way to go just because they're not on yet, but I can tell you that the few positives the 80 wheels bring to the table (strength and more sidewall) are vastly overridden by all the negative traits that pop up.

I'd say come borrow the old setup for a week to see for yourself if you lived in UT, so all I can really say is if you value the drivability of the truck, seriously reconsider the 80 series wheels. Hope that answers your question.
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Thanks....your explanation is more enough to scrap that idea. Appreciate for the honesty.
 
efjayatee said:
Thanks....your explanation is more enough to scrap that idea. Appreciate for the honesty.
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Just a heads up since you were asking about the old setup. The pizza cutters on the stock wheels are the money. No rubbing anywhere at full stuff and full lock, and it drives just like it did with the stock wheels and tires on there.

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