cruiser_guy
Out of Africa / North Africa
My Isspro that will be going in the FJ45LV was $85 in the for sale section of 'Mud!
What are your EGTs at idle?
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cruiser_guy said:
Whow lucky you.
thats a good price. Was it from some member who has multiples of stock that fell off a truck somewhere?
crushers said:
Whats mopac? is that the dodge parts center?
Thinking like Mopar. I have a dodge dealer here. To think I could have bought there. Instead I drove 400kms to the nearest city............f-awk!
crushers
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mopaC is a speed shop on 16th ave nw...
ahh ok. Next time I need to do the care pkg from the province of no tax.
Well, so far I have the Boost Gauge mounted and functional, and my Pyrometer is wired up and mounted...but I haven't drilled and tapped into the turbo flange for the thermocouple yet. Sheldon's going to help me with that tomorrow.
I got a center dash pod from Greg at G&S Cruiser Parts for my BJ74 since mine never came with one. If you do this, you also need the matching dash mat as it has the special cutout for the pod. Fortunately, there are already holes in the dash for the two studs to mount the pod.
I took out the Thermometer from the pod, since the readings are mostly useless anyway, but kept the Altimeter intact. You have to remove the plastic face of the pod and measure very very carefully where you want to cut your holes for your gauges as there is very little room for error. Two gauges barely fit in there, and you have to hack away much of the plastic frame in the back to make them fit. I also used black marker and black electrical tape to black out the see through section between the holes that used to be for the thermometer readout. The hole saw that I used for the ISSPRO gauges was a 2" hole saw, and the gauges fit through it perfectly.
Here's some pics:
Mounted on the dash:
Lousy shot of what it looks like in the dark:
I'll let you guys know what readings I get when I have the probe installed. It will be installed pre-turbo.
I got a center dash pod from Greg at G&S Cruiser Parts for my BJ74 since mine never came with one. If you do this, you also need the matching dash mat as it has the special cutout for the pod. Fortunately, there are already holes in the dash for the two studs to mount the pod.
I took out the Thermometer from the pod, since the readings are mostly useless anyway, but kept the Altimeter intact. You have to remove the plastic face of the pod and measure very very carefully where you want to cut your holes for your gauges as there is very little room for error. Two gauges barely fit in there, and you have to hack away much of the plastic frame in the back to make them fit. I also used black marker and black electrical tape to black out the see through section between the holes that used to be for the thermometer readout. The hole saw that I used for the ISSPRO gauges was a 2" hole saw, and the gauges fit through it perfectly.
Here's some pics:
Mounted on the dash:
Lousy shot of what it looks like in the dark:
I'll let you guys know what readings I get when I have the probe installed. It will be installed pre-turbo.
So...Sheldon gave me a hand putting in the thermocouple today, and it went fairly smoothly. I took out my airbox, the turbo heat shield, and set aside the wastegate, and this gave me enough room to get my drill and bit in there to drill out the hole and not have to remove my turbo or exhaust manifold (pain in the ass).
I installed the thermocouple pre-turbo, at the elbow where the turbo and exhaust manifold meet. The thermocouple is about 2 cm above the flange connection, on the turbo side. It is angled towards the front of the assembly, and when everything was fully assembled, it was out of the way of the wastegate rod and heat shield, so no further mods were needed.
Holy smokes my EGT's were a lot higher than I was expecting! In town driving at around 50-65 km/h at a steady speed on flat ground, I was getting around 500-650 F. On the freeway on flat terrain and going steadily at around 110-1150 km/h my EGT's were between 850-950 F. On the freeway, accellerating from 100 km/h to 115 km/h on a hill, my EGT's topped out at 1250! And this was a SHORT hill! I can just imagine what my EGT's were doing during the times I was climbing the Snow Shed on the Coquihalla, and more recently the summit of the connector between Merrit and Kelowna! In town accellerating and hill climbing, my EGT's remaind between 850-1000 F.
The EGT's also dropped fairly quickly after the load was removed from the engine. At idle in operating temps, my EGT's were around 300-350 F.
Overall a very useful tool to have to keep an eye on how hard your engine is working...as mine doesn't even spew out that much smoke even while under load. I THINK my fuel setting is stock, but I have shimmed out my turbo wastegate to have a maximum boost of around 9 psi before dumping in order to provide more air to the mix (when I received my truck from Japan, it was only putting out a pathetic 5.5 psi max
).
I installed the thermocouple pre-turbo, at the elbow where the turbo and exhaust manifold meet. The thermocouple is about 2 cm above the flange connection, on the turbo side. It is angled towards the front of the assembly, and when everything was fully assembled, it was out of the way of the wastegate rod and heat shield, so no further mods were needed.
Holy smokes my EGT's were a lot higher than I was expecting! In town driving at around 50-65 km/h at a steady speed on flat ground, I was getting around 500-650 F. On the freeway on flat terrain and going steadily at around 110-1150 km/h my EGT's were between 850-950 F. On the freeway, accellerating from 100 km/h to 115 km/h on a hill, my EGT's topped out at 1250! And this was a SHORT hill! I can just imagine what my EGT's were doing during the times I was climbing the Snow Shed on the Coquihalla, and more recently the summit of the connector between Merrit and Kelowna! In town accellerating and hill climbing, my EGT's remaind between 850-1000 F.
The EGT's also dropped fairly quickly after the load was removed from the engine. At idle in operating temps, my EGT's were around 300-350 F.
Overall a very useful tool to have to keep an eye on how hard your engine is working...as mine doesn't even spew out that much smoke even while under load. I THINK my fuel setting is stock, but I have shimmed out my turbo wastegate to have a maximum boost of around 9 psi before dumping in order to provide more air to the mix (when I received my truck from Japan, it was only putting out a pathetic 5.5 psi max
).
crushers
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Gerry,
it was recommended to me that if you are going to use the webasto for this you chould have a seperate dedicated battery for the job such as an optima...
cheers
it was recommended to me that if you are going to use the webasto for this you chould have a seperate dedicated battery for the job such as an optima...
cheers
crushers
post ho
good idea.. not much room in a cruiser for that but still a good suggestion.
cheers
cheers
I thought we were talking about EGT's? WTF??? 
LOL! You've been in Saskabush too long, Hawke. 
EGT = Exhaust Gast Temperature.
WTF = What The ****.
EGT = Exhaust Gast Temperature.
WTF = What The ****.
crushers
post ho
oops sorry Stoney...
Nice install Stone!
Now you really need to get a grainger valve or a boost controller and crank up that boost to maybe 14. Leave the fuel there, it will cool down so nice
Can you imagine your EGT when you had 5.5lbs???
My 3b NA when it was over fueling due to my adjustments. I would not get a lot of smoke that was noticeable while looking in a mirror. But it would be very hot if I didn't pay attention.
I turned it down so I only had to pay have attention to it.
I bet most 3b's NA with out a pyro are hitting 1600 all the time. That is probably why they have cracked heads.
Now you really need to get a grainger valve or a boost controller and crank up that boost to maybe 14. Leave the fuel there, it will cool down so nice
Can you imagine your EGT when you had 5.5lbs???
My 3b NA when it was over fueling due to my adjustments. I would not get a lot of smoke that was noticeable while looking in a mirror. But it would be very hot if I didn't pay attention.
I turned it down so I only had to pay have attention to it.
I bet most 3b's NA with out a pyro are hitting 1600 all the time. That is probably why they have cracked heads.
cruiser_guy
Out of Africa / North Africa
Stone, I don't know how you tied in the gauge lights but if you tie in after the dimmer the lights on the turbo and pyrometer more closely match the rest of the lights. You can also put one of the green "socks" (that are found over stock dash lights) over the bulb in the turbo guage for a green tint like stock. It cuts down the light intesity as well. It only works on the turbo guage though as the pyrometer guage light is too small.
LOL...no worries guys, just wanted us to stay on track with this thread.
Brownbear...I can just imagine what my EGT's were rpior to bumping up the boost. Scary. I'm actually not going to bump the boost up any more than what I already have because I'm going more for longevity than lots of power. I feel that the way the truck is right now is just fine for what I do. These stock CT-26 turbos have bushings in them, and to make consistent boost 14 psi and over, one should really consider swapping them out for a turbo on ball bearings.
Charles:
The lights in both the boost gauge and pyrometer were already swapped out with 24V bulbs and tied into the dash lights. My BJ74 is a JDM, which means no dimmer switch. The problem with the different light intensities is because the factory bulbs in the dash were of lower wattage than what Toyota here stocks...so the bulbs that I've been replacing are a few watts higher. They all have that green slip-on condoms on them to match the dash lights...even the ones in the pyrometer.
Thanks, guys.
Brownbear...I can just imagine what my EGT's were rpior to bumping up the boost. Scary. I'm actually not going to bump the boost up any more than what I already have because I'm going more for longevity than lots of power. I feel that the way the truck is right now is just fine for what I do. These stock CT-26 turbos have bushings in them, and to make consistent boost 14 psi and over, one should really consider swapping them out for a turbo on ball bearings.
Charles:
The lights in both the boost gauge and pyrometer were already swapped out with 24V bulbs and tied into the dash lights. My BJ74 is a JDM, which means no dimmer switch. The problem with the different light intensities is because the factory bulbs in the dash were of lower wattage than what Toyota here stocks...so the bulbs that I've been replacing are a few watts higher. They all have that green slip-on condoms on them to match the dash lights...even the ones in the pyrometer.
Thanks, guys.
Tapage
Club 4X4 Panamá
Stone .. !!!!!!! did you keep ypur termometer unit . ? Mine the outside temp got a static E ( it's mean error . .? ) so if you have yours and plan to sell it .. ! you know .. pleeeeasseeeee
pleeeeasseeeee
Stone said:On the freeway, accellerating from 100 km/h to 115 km/h on a hill, my EGT's topped out at 1250! And this was a SHORT hill!
Sounds about right for the 250F drop from pre to post turbo. My probe is post turbo and I can hit 1000F on that hill. Before I shimmed the wastegate, I was hitting 1100 no problems on hills, and slowly climbing past that...
gb
I think on long hill that tiny exhaust we have definately holds a lot heat from escaping and also put the temps up.
I found on one hill local here. If I did high temps it would climb up and be dammed if I could get it to drop. Back off the throttle and it would continue high. It just wasn't getting out of there.
I found on one hill local here. If I did high temps it would climb up and be dammed if I could get it to drop. Back off the throttle and it would continue high. It just wasn't getting out of there.
Stone; fair enough. Longevity is a good thing
If you get hungry for a bit more power you could intercool it. That would keep you in low psi range but with very cold dense air. It would make some nice low EGT's.
Also to help with longetivty.
If you get hungry for a bit more power you could intercool it. That would keep you in low psi range but with very cold dense air. It would make some nice low EGT's.
Also to help with longetivty.
Tapage:
That unit that I got already had a bad thermometer in it...so I just cut it out and threw it away. Sorry, wish I could help.
Darryl:
I'd love to put in an intercooler, similar to what Coldtaco has done with his 13B-T BJ70...but I do love that AC in my truck, and wouldn't want to get rid of it to make room for an intercooler. I've taken my truck to a ricer shop, and seems to me it would be difficult and expensive to do. They recommended a water-air intercooler to fit and provide effective cooling.
I'll keep an eye on my EGT's , but really am not too worried about it. I don't think I'll be turning up my fuel any time soon though.
Cheers.
That unit that I got already had a bad thermometer in it...so I just cut it out and threw it away. Sorry, wish I could help.
Darryl:
I'd love to put in an intercooler, similar to what Coldtaco has done with his 13B-T BJ70...but I do love that AC in my truck, and wouldn't want to get rid of it to make room for an intercooler. I've taken my truck to a ricer shop, and seems to me it would be difficult and expensive to do. They recommended a water-air intercooler to fit and provide effective cooling.
I'll keep an eye on my EGT's , but really am not too worried about it. I don't think I'll be turning up my fuel any time soon though.
Cheers.
