what are 4 factory alloys worth?

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

Joined
Dec 17, 2004
Threads
132
Messages
1,151
Location
Boise, Idaho
I want to get a set of alloys and powdercoat them. I found a set already powdercoated black on CL for $450. Good deal?
 
yes buy them.
 
I want to get a set of alloys and powdercoat them. I found a set already powdercoated black on CL for $450. Good deal?

No.

I would never spend $112.50/wheel on old ass aluminum wheels that probably wont even keep a seal. There is probably a reason they were PC'd, I know I didn't just do mine for the hell of it.

I would offer $200, I think that's more reasonable.
 
No.

I would never spend $112.50/wheel on old ass aluminum wheels that probably wont even keep a seal. There is probably a reason they were PC'd, I know I didn't just do mine for the hell of it.

I would offer $200, I think that's more reasonable.

Do you even know anything about the 80 wheel?

they are forged wheel. Way better than any other aftermarket wheel out on market.

Buy them...they are worth the money
 
Do you even know anything about the 80 wheel?

they are forged wheel. Way better than any other aftermarket wheel out on market.

Buy them...they are worth the money

Forged or not the newest 80 wheel is 15yrs old and in most cases it shows. If you want to spend 112/wheel on possibly pitted wheels that might not seal (slow leak through the bead) that's fine.
 
If they are what you want go for it. Personally if I get another set of wheels they will probably be 17 inch because the large tire sizes seem to be cheaper for 17's. Take a good look at the inner lip of the wheel and the outer rim before you buy anything used. There is a good chance they were powder coated because they were heavily curbed, bent, or wouldn't hold a seal.
 
Around here it is a popular mod to powder coat the OEM cast rims to low luster black. It is in no way any indication of good or bad quality of the rim, just personal preference. These stockers are probably stronger than any aftermarket rim you can buy. I recently picked up a set of 5 with 4 center caps for way under $100 on CL. Watch for non-enthusiasts to dump them due to they want super glitzy rims. My spares do have some rock rash, but since they are spares, I have time to smooth them out, and I will also clean up the bead sealing area with scotch pads. Check around locally to see what powder coating would cost you. John
 
i'm with inkpot. they are forged and they fit. i'ts almost impossible to find a quality aftermarket rim now, especially one that fits: seems like they are all cast in some third world country anymore. if they are in good condition with a quality powder coat job i'd do it. it's not a steal of a deal but if everything's right on them, definitely worth it.
 
No.

I would never spend $112.50/wheel on old ass aluminum wheels that probably wont even keep a seal. There is probably a reason they were PC'd, I know I didn't just do mine for the hell of it.

I would offer $200, I think that's more reasonable.

Ditto. You can buy a refurbished OEM 80 series wheel with a lifetime warranty and free shipping (if you buy four) here for $112. That's what I did. Our wheels aren't that great.
 
Mostdef stick with the stock newer style 80 wheels, like everyone says they are forged and have steel inserts I belive, they are stronger than any aftermarket wheels that supposedly fit the 80. And yes you may come across a few with some pitting on them but nothing a little elbow grease and some sanding wont fix, neccesary step if you wanna powdercoat anyway. Also people let them go for cheap on cl. Plus they are made in japan and let me tell you those small yellow folk sure do know how to put together a fine offroad vehicle

Sent from my HTC EVO4G using IH8MUD
 
Ditto. You can buy a refurbished OEM 80 series wheel with a lifetime warranty and free shipping (if you buy four) here for $112. That's what I did. Our wheels aren't that great.
So, add the cost of powder coating at $50 - $75 each, and it gets pretty expensive. I'm not sure I really trust an advertiser that says the 6 bolt rims will fit a 1998 with only 5 studs. Whatever. If the OP is not too far away, then take some cash, go look at them, haggle the price, bitch about center caps and lug nuts, look them over especially on the bead seal, and then decide.............. John
 
So, add the cost of powder coating at $50 - $75 each, and it gets pretty expensive. I'm not sure I really trust an advertiser that says the 6 bolt rims will fit a 1998 with only 5 studs. Whatever. If the OP is not too far away, then take some cash, go look at them, haggle the price, bitch about center caps and lug nuts, look them over especially on the bead seal, and then decide.............. John

No, that price includes powdercoating and a lifetime warranty. I'm struggling to see how a questionable set from Craigslist for the same price is likely better. But, to each their own.
 
Last edited:
Do you even know anything about the 80 wheel?

they are forged wheel. Way better than any other aftermarket wheel out on market.

Buy them...they are worth the money

Oh the fantasy world some LC fans live in.


Not that they aren't good wheels.
 
Last edited:
No, that price includes powdercoating and a lifetime warranty. I'm struggling to see how a questionable set from Craigslist for the same price is likely better. But, to each their own.
OP was interested in black, I think. This seller lists aftermarket chrome, medium grey, silver, lite silver, and medium charcoal. No mention of powder coat or black. Nice option of doing the powder coat yourself is that you get to choose how shinny they are. I did a set in 30% shine, so they are a low luster, just a glow but not a shinny reflection. Smooth enough that dirt doesn't really stick, but not so shinny that they beg to be cleaned after every trail trip. John
 
Oh the fantasy world some LC fans live in.


Not that they aren't good wheels.

If you knew the difference between a forged & a cast wheel, I highly doubt you would make that comment.

In the world of low profile tired cars, the difference can be night & day for strength. The best wheels are all forged, and I can make that blanket statement knowing that all the high end manufacturers forge their high end wheels.

IF you can find a forged 17" wheel that fits our bolt pattern, with our offset for that ~$112 , then please - share with the class.

I know forged "throwing star" (stock wheels behind covers on E34 M5's) BMW wheels are worth triple the price a cast set brings on the used marked, if you can even dump a set of cast ones. I got a deal @ $750 for a set of 4 forged for my E30M3, and cast is inferior to the point BMW makes them a different part number, aside from minor cosmetics a BMW enthusiast knows.

Our forged wheels are hard to beat, the only downside is for the 37"+ crowd where I totally admit 17" tires are possibly easier to get in what you want than in our 16" size. Our OEM wheels are stout & pretty hard to beat though.
 
I picked up a set of five '97 CE wheels with lug nuts for a hundred bucks from a fellow club member. They were a little rough (Arizona rough, peely clear coat, sun fade, not Wisconsin salted roads rough) but I have my 255s on them for rock wheels. If you keep an eye out, you can find a deal.
 
inkpot said:
This seller lists aftermarket chrome, medium grey, silver, lite silver, and medium charcoal. No mention of powder coat or black.

The colors the seller mentions are OEM colors done in powder coat. I opted for the 40th anniversary style (machined face and charcoal "d ring"). They don't do black because it's not OEM. So, you're right, if the original poster specifically wants black then I would not recommend the place from which I bought my wheels.

Here are mine without the center caps:



image-2066488380.webp



image-1735454141.webp
image-2066488380.webp
image-1735454141.webp
 
If you knew the difference between a forged & a cast wheel, I highly doubt you would make that comment.

In the world of low profile tired cars, the difference can be night & day for strength. The best wheels are all forged, and I can make that blanket statement knowing that all the high end manufacturers forge their high end wheels.

IF you can find a forged 17" wheel that fits our bolt pattern, with our offset for that ~$112 , then please - share with the class.

I know forged "throwing star" (stock wheels behind covers on E34 M5's) BMW wheels are worth triple the price a cast set brings on the used marked, if you can even dump a set of cast ones. I got a deal @ $750 for a set of 4 forged for my E30M3, and cast is inferior to the point BMW makes them a different part number, aside from minor cosmetics a BMW enthusiast knows.

Our forged wheels are hard to beat, the only downside is for the 37"+ crowd where I totally admit 17" tires are possibly easier to get in what you want than in our 16" size. Our OEM wheels are stout & pretty hard to beat though.

I said nothing about forged, and i was quick to edit my bolding as to avoid people trying to pull a BB-code nuance fast one on me. Anyone who knows anything about wheels, or metal in general, knows forged is stronger than cast.

He made a blanket statement of saying that OEM alloys are stronger than anything aftermarket, which is untrue. Even if you took it as an exaggeration for effect, there are still a collection of high end wheel producers that make an arguably superior product. You will certainly have to pay for them, and OEM wheels certainly are quite stout, but the claim that they are hands down the best is a bit zealous.

Its all speculation anyways since I don't think there's any comparative studies of strength with FJ80 wheels.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top Bottom