Zip ties work the best for cleaning the slit drains. Flat to fit and plastic so they do not scratch the paint to expose bare metal in an area where you least want it.
Wet Floor, please help (1 Viewer)
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My 94 has the same issues (A pillar drippage, wet floors, soggy wiring). I went to Home Depot last weekend and bought 8 feet of #10 stranded wire (still wrapped in the plastic insulation to avoid scratching metal and tearing tubes). I was able to feed it down to the rockers, but had to force it the last 8-12 inches. I considered the weedeater string, but it seemed too insubstantial to clear out any blockages. I'm now getting great drainage out of all four drains. I should probably ziptie the slits on principle. I haven't done the carwash test yet, but the initial results were encouraging.
Doug...I'm still going w/my window theory. My sunroof drains just fine, but my stock, never been replaced windshield leaks like crap. Leaks at the corner, runs down behind the dash, in the corner sort of...and soaks the floor....
still need to fix it....
Jeff
still need to fix it....
Jeff
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Photo_Cruiser said:
dougs problem sounds exactly like mine and at first it was the windshield but i had it sealed and its dry now, yet the floors still stay wet, im at a total loss as to where the waters comming from.
mike
Zip tied the drain slits today and then faced the dreaded carwash test. It passed. We'll see if the floorboards dry out soon...
For those of you still having drainage issues:
* When working properly, the sunroof drains will flow a lot of water. The tube running down the A-pillar is ~1/2" in diameter.
* First you have to make sure the water can drain down the tube. Those that park under trees might have leaves clogging the drain tube. The above suggestions for unclogging should work.
* Behind the DS kick panel, the sunroof drain tube can become kinked. You need to remove the panel and check. Especially Sully, who said the wire was hard to feed all the way down to the rocker.
* Clean the rocker panel slits as described by C-Dan; using a plastic wire tie and removing the plugs if needed.
* While you have the DS kick panel removed, carefully inspect for prior water intrusion and corrosion. Hugh had a fire caused by a sunroof draining problem. There are a lot of wires, connectors, and ECU's in this area.
-B-
* When working properly, the sunroof drains will flow a lot of water. The tube running down the A-pillar is ~1/2" in diameter.
* First you have to make sure the water can drain down the tube. Those that park under trees might have leaves clogging the drain tube. The above suggestions for unclogging should work.
* Behind the DS kick panel, the sunroof drain tube can become kinked. You need to remove the panel and check. Especially Sully, who said the wire was hard to feed all the way down to the rocker.
* Clean the rocker panel slits as described by C-Dan; using a plastic wire tie and removing the plugs if needed.
* While you have the DS kick panel removed, carefully inspect for prior water intrusion and corrosion. Hugh had a fire caused by a sunroof draining problem. There are a lot of wires, connectors, and ECU's in this area.
-B-
Beowulf said:
Thanks Beowulf
We have tried to blow out and fush out the sunroof drains. The rear drains good and fast the fronts just don't drain very well and they take to long. I think the hackmasters that claimed to be toyota masters did not do something right in there
Cleaned the rocker panel slits as described by C-Dan
Seemed to have fixed the rear leak also thanks to C-Dan
we are taking it in again to toyota's body shop to have the front of the head liner removed for inspection etc.
NorCalSam said:
Describe what you found when you removed the DS kick panel.
-B-
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Beo,
I was the one that did the investigation and that is what the above pictures are from. Initially when I pulled the kick panel, the gutter drain where the electrical wires sit was just wet. After that I put a hose at the point of the sunroof drain and as you can see in one of the pics it substantially filled with water. Tried to get a pic of me moving the water with my fingers. We've left the front RP plugs out for now. Drivers side has always been worse than pass side. Its been dry here for 3+ days, today I pulled the DS panel and still wet. Of course not soaked but wet. The dissapointing discovery today was the rear quarter panel. I do think the problem there is fixed with silicon, but after getting into the area where the jack is, there is a large amount of water in that area. Is there any way to let it exit without a wet vac?
Thanks,
Teresa
I was the one that did the investigation and that is what the above pictures are from. Initially when I pulled the kick panel, the gutter drain where the electrical wires sit was just wet. After that I put a hose at the point of the sunroof drain and as you can see in one of the pics it substantially filled with water. Tried to get a pic of me moving the water with my fingers. We've left the front RP plugs out for now. Drivers side has always been worse than pass side. Its been dry here for 3+ days, today I pulled the DS panel and still wet. Of course not soaked but wet. The dissapointing discovery today was the rear quarter panel. I do think the problem there is fixed with silicon, but after getting into the area where the jack is, there is a large amount of water in that area. Is there any way to let it exit without a wet vac?
Thanks,
Teresa
Teresa,
Make certain the drain inside the DS kick panel is not kinked, bent, or compressed. If it is, the water will back up and come down the A-piller as you saw. I hate to sound like a broken record but you also need to be sure you get that area dried out and correct any corrosion if found.
As for the rear quarter, there are some more rubber plugs in the rocker that you can pull to help drain the rear area where the jack is. You might need to silicone seal the sliding windows. I haven't seen that problem on mine but there have been a number of posts describing how to fix the cargo area leaks.
-B-
Make certain the drain inside the DS kick panel is not kinked, bent, or compressed. If it is, the water will back up and come down the A-piller as you saw. I hate to sound like a broken record but you also need to be sure you get that area dried out and correct any corrosion if found.
As for the rear quarter, there are some more rubber plugs in the rocker that you can pull to help drain the rear area where the jack is. You might need to silicone seal the sliding windows. I haven't seen that problem on mine but there have been a number of posts describing how to fix the cargo area leaks.
-B-
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sunroof leak
The headliner is dropped and here are some pics of the area that water drain into when put on the closed sunroof. I will take wet pics tomorrow. All drains seem to be clear and I have removed the front rocker panel drain as suggested for now. Still leaks into this spot.
The headliner is dropped and here are some pics of the area that water drain into when put on the closed sunroof. I will take wet pics tomorrow. All drains seem to be clear and I have removed the front rocker panel drain as suggested for now. Still leaks into this spot.
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First pic is top side of sunroof slider area. Second pic is underside of same area that is coroded. Is water getting there because of a faulty sunroof and seal? What I wonder is that this sunroof glass was replaced almost a year ago. A shop did the work, so I don't have all of the answers. When you replace the glass/seal, does it come with the pictured parts or just the glass /seal. Do you all think my problem is the glass/seal or the part pictured. Is water supposed to get to that part? Again, I''ll take wet pics tomorrow.
Teresa
Teresa
pics of slits
okay... my d-dide floor is soaked after the 12 inches of rain we got in the past 9 days. i popped the drain plugs on the rocker and no water came out. i made sure the slits were clear and they were. i took pocs of the headliner where the water is clearly an issue... looks like i have a clogged or busted drain hose...
what is the best method for clearing the drain hose?
here is a pic of the water damage, the drain hole and the elusive slits... there is a middle slit but mine was bashed on a rock.
okay... my d-dide floor is soaked after the 12 inches of rain we got in the past 9 days. i popped the drain plugs on the rocker and no water came out. i made sure the slits were clear and they were. i took pocs of the headliner where the water is clearly an issue... looks like i have a clogged or busted drain hose...
what is the best method for clearing the drain hose?
here is a pic of the water damage, the drain hole and the elusive slits... there is a middle slit but mine was bashed on a rock.
how much wire do i need to snake the sunroof drain? 6 feet... you will use prolly 5 to get it down. i just cleaned mine... poured water down it and it came out the bottom. the only problem is i did not check to first see if it was clogged so i am not sure that was the root of the wet floor.
I'll chime in now that I've been free-loading off everyone else for a while. I've had a few problems with water over the years (pretty much the same as everyone else). I almost never use the sunroof, but recently found that my 18 y/o daughter uses it often (!#@%!*). It is again leaking down the a-pillars and actually coming through the PS pillar cover (I hope this dries out later). I removed the mini bug-shield like plastic cover from the sunroof (I think it just lets in more water) and don't plan to put it back. I found the drains clogged with ACORNS of all things! But I have them draining well now. I suspect after following this thread I should pull off the plug/slits to be sure nothing is cuaght up at the other end even though it is draining (I used an air gun to clean out the tubes once the acorns were removed.
Here is the kicker though. Once I had the plastic wind screen thing off, I noticed the sunroof when fully closed sits about 1/4 to 3/8" lower than the roof. I then recalled my daughter telling me that there was a "rattling" sound coming from just over and behind her head while driving on rough roads. In the end, I removed the aussie barrier in the rear so I could drop the headliner and get a look. Sure enough, the darn sun roof is so worn out that it will not close tightly. I can't tell if it is just the cables (definately worn) or also the tracks (they look pretty worn also).
In the end, I had to throw in the towel(s) and it is going to the dealer in about an hour. They tell me I cannot order an entirely new replacement for the sun roof - just parts. This could be good as parts sound cheaper than the whole thing. I did a quick ebay and google search for discounted parts, but found nothing for the FZJ80 sun roof.
So just to be safe, make sure your roof is closing all the way before going nuts trying to GET the water out (you may be best to fix the roof and KEEP the water out).
Later.
Here is the kicker though. Once I had the plastic wind screen thing off, I noticed the sunroof when fully closed sits about 1/4 to 3/8" lower than the roof. I then recalled my daughter telling me that there was a "rattling" sound coming from just over and behind her head while driving on rough roads. In the end, I removed the aussie barrier in the rear so I could drop the headliner and get a look. Sure enough, the darn sun roof is so worn out that it will not close tightly. I can't tell if it is just the cables (definately worn) or also the tracks (they look pretty worn also).
In the end, I had to throw in the towel(s) and it is going to the dealer in about an hour. They tell me I cannot order an entirely new replacement for the sun roof - just parts. This could be good as parts sound cheaper than the whole thing. I did a quick ebay and google search for discounted parts, but found nothing for the FZJ80 sun roof.
So just to be safe, make sure your roof is closing all the way before going nuts trying to GET the water out (you may be best to fix the roof and KEEP the water out).
Later.
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Ok, looks like I'm in this boat too...
Passenger side middle carpet gets damp with lighter rains. However, we had 2" in an hour and the front passenger side was sopping wet.
I've ruled out the slit drains, door drains, front hoses aren't kinked and show normal flow (it seems). I'm starting to think it has something to do with the rear drains.
Also, with the sunroof closed, if I push up on the roof, how far should it typically move upward? Mine moves around an 1/8 - 3/16" or so. Don't know if this is normal "slop" or if the rails are worn.
TIA for the help.
Passenger side middle carpet gets damp with lighter rains. However, we had 2" in an hour and the front passenger side was sopping wet.
I've ruled out the slit drains, door drains, front hoses aren't kinked and show normal flow (it seems). I'm starting to think it has something to do with the rear drains.
Also, with the sunroof closed, if I push up on the roof, how far should it typically move upward? Mine moves around an 1/8 - 3/16" or so. Don't know if this is normal "slop" or if the rails are worn.
TIA for the help.
same problem apparently. Here's a dumb question...everyone is snaking wire down a 1/2" tube that drains in to the rocker panel and out the slits. If the slits/tube are clogged, it makes sense that there is a bunch of crud stuck in the whole thing that a wire/zip tie isn't going to get out and that it will clog again in short order. What would happen if after the whole thing was cleaned out with wire, and we were sure water was flowing, you were to press a water spray nozzle right up to the drain hole and shoot pressurized water down the thing to force more crud out? I'm asking because I want someone else to try it first.
trainrech said:
Sounds like you have the same problem as me - worn rails (actually, I'm told it is the cables that are worn, but they are integrated into the rails, so rail replacement is required). I was also told there should be no "play" in the sunroof - so when closed, it shouldn't be able to move upward at all.
My is (hopefullY) being repaired tomorrow evening, so I'll let you know Thursday how much "play" is present after the repair. Currently, mine is pretty much exactly like your's - definately 1/8" and maybe up to 1/4"
Good luck.
Good timing on this. I had my problem fixed, i thought, but after a hard rain, driving in flip-flops, i felt a few drops hitting my left foot where the black foot rest is located just beside the kick panel. Not sure where it's coming from, but from the pics that little boss showed, i wonder if my drain holes aren't just pouring over into the pillar. .
