Wet Floor, please help (1 Viewer)

[Little Boss]

I know there are probably 1000 posts about wet vehicles. We've read about clogged sunroof drains and windshields. I fixed the leak in back windows with silicone. I am ever more frustrated though. Took the cruiser to Toyota to have them clean out the drains and see if they thought that was the problem. Both DS and PS floorboards are wet wet wet. Basically they charged us 180.00 to tell us that they ran water down the drains and the PS drained pretty well and the DS was slow. They then said that for $450.00 they would remove the headliner and further inspect the drains and sunroof to see if that is where the leak is coming from. They said they didn't want to ream out the drains because if they were brittle they could make the leak worse. I've done more investigation myself. I ran water down each drain. The ps did drain but also filled up the rocker panel. The ds never escaped through the drain, all it did was fill up the panel and enter my truck soaking all the electrical wiring.
My question is that obviously we could pull the plugs on the panel to let it drain out but they are there for a reason right? To keep water from coming in when you go through deep water crossings? Are the sunroof drains supposed to drain into the rockerpanel? I thought they were supposed to drain just behind the front tires.
Please help. I'll post pics under norcal sams name because I dont have the space under mine.
Thanks,

Teresa

 

[NorCalSam]

Ok,
here are some pics. As I put water directly down the sunroof drain it fills up through the plug into the channel shown.
Teresa

 

[NorCalSam]

Then it starts leaking at the upper A piller and from the door molding. The last pic is the water draining out from the panel. Shouldn't it drain from 1 location if all is working properly?

Thanks everyone,
Teresa (little boss)

 

[concretejungle]

Teresa, my truck does the exact same thing. But, it seems that it only does it after i have been in the mud. So, what i do and what i think is: lower rocker panel drains are clogged, and the water as it comes down the drain tube, backs up and pours into the pillar then fills up the little wiring area you pictured. So, when i get a wet floorboard, i know that the lower drain is clogged, so i get under the truck with the air nozzle and spray compressed air up into the little slits in the rocker panel. I also run weed-eater wire down the drain hole from the sunroof. This combination usually fixes the wet floor until i get really muddy again.

Hope that helps.

 

[cruiserdan]

It sounds like you may have two problems. One being plugged slit drains in the rocker and the other being an issue with the drain tube it's self. It could be that the rocker is filling up and causing the tube to back up. At this point I would recommend pulling the black plastic plug that is in the bottom of the rocker, about 4 inches aft of the fender-to-rocker seam. Excercise caution when popping that plug out as you are apt to get a face full of water when it comes out...
After you get that plug out, monitor the upper area to see if you still have water issues up there. If not, it was backing up the drain. If so, the headliner will probably have to come down to investigate further.

D-

 

[Hayes]

...and if it turns out to be a clogged rocker slit...

...bring on the zip-tie.

Hayes

 

[concretejungle]

Dan, if it's a cracked or damaged drain tube, what's the fix?

 

[NorCalDoug]

water, water, water...everywhere...

I'm having the same problems. It's been wetter than usual this winter in NorCal...I've never had the floors as wet as they are now.

I haven't resorted to taking the rig into the stealership yet, but so far haven't had much luck tracking the source of the leak. I'm getting water behind the dash...I can feel it pooling up just behind the hood and gas latch.

Both DS and PS front floors are soaked.

No leaking from the A-pillars...yet...

 

[Photo_Cruiser]

Doug,
You sure that isn't the windshield....? I have isolated my leaks to that....I shove paper towles into the bottom L and R corners, and after any rain, they are soaked.


Jeff

 

[lx450landcruiser]

water, water, water...everywhere...

I'm having the same problems. It's been wetter than usual this winter in NorCal...I've never had the floors as wet as they are now.

I haven't resorted to taking the rig into the stealership yet, but so far haven't had much luck tracking the source of the leak. I'm getting water behind the dash...I can feel it pooling up just behind the hood and gas latch.

Both DS and PS front floors are soaked.

No leaking from the A-pillars...yet...

doug let me know what you find out when you find it as your problem sounds the same as mine. Im at a loss as ive tryed everything.

mike

 

[NorCalDoug]

Doug,
You sure that isn't the windshield....? I have isolated my leaks to that....I shove paper towles into the bottom L and R corners, and after any rain, they are soaked.


Jeff

Not sure if it is or isn't. The windshield has been fine for years...as far as I can tell. It seems to be the original glass.

But...I've recently started seeing some wetness in the DS corner.
I'll try to get a good look at it this weekend...if it's dry enough to sit outside for a while.

 

[NorCalDoug]

doug let me know what you find out when you find it as your problem sounds the same as mine. Im at a loss as ive tryed everything.

mike

Will do...wet floors totally suck as

 

[FirstToy]

Is it possible to thread 1 long, soft wire down the sunroof drain all the way thru the rocker drain out the bottom?

(Maybe some of that really pliable wire they use in flower shops and wrap the end so you dont tear anything)

 

[Little Boss]

wet floors

Seeing that this likely is a huge can of worms and more than we can tackle especially without a garage, the likely outcome will be the "stealership" as doug called it. So I called my insurance agent and told him how concerned I was with my electrical wires in standing water I also told him that I was concerned re mold. He filed a claim and said it shouldn't be a problem. Hopefully it works out. I remember reading an earlier post from somebody that the insurance co. had the carpet removed, any rust spots fixed, sounded like a complete job. We'll see what happens and I'll let you all know what the outcome was.

Teresa

 

[NorCalDoug]

Is it possible to thread 1 long, soft wire down the sunroof drain all the way thru the rocker drain out the bottom?

(Maybe some of that really pliable wire they use in flower shops and wrap the end so you dont tear anything)

I have a bunch of stiff plastic weed-eater type line. I'll try that first.

 

[FirstToy]

that's good too! double-true!

tell us how it works, might be a good pre-emptive thing if it works out

 

[Little Boss]

Teresa, my truck does the exact same thing. But, it seems that it only does it after i have been in the mud. So, what i do and what i think is: lower rocker panel drains are clogged, and the water as it comes down the drain tube, backs up and pours into the pillar then fills up the little wiring area you pictured. So, when i get a wet floorboard, i know that the lower drain is clogged, so i get under the truck with the air nozzle and spray compressed air up into the little slits in the rocker panel. I also run weed-eater wire down the drain hole from the sunroof. This combination usually fixes the wet floor until i get really muddy again.

Hope that helps.

This is probably stupid, but where are the rocker panel "slits". I've pilled all of the drain plugs in the rocker panels. I've ran weedeater line down them. Is it right that the SR drains are supposed to drain into the panel and then the water drains out of the slits? Where is the sunroof drain supposed to drain. Are all plugs supposed to be in the rocker panel, that is what I thought.
Last night we got alot of rain. I left the rockerpanel drains out overnight. Floor was dry this am. Are the slits the drain plugs? Can you show pics if they are different?
Thanks,
Teresa

 

[Truckasaurus]

Good morning everyone.

Teresa,

Get under the truck, between the tires. Laying on your back, you'll see the flanges that are spot welded together for the rocker to floorpan. On these flanges, there are three upsets (Instead of being flat, continuously in contact flanges, there are these upsets, about 1 to 1-1/2 inches long). If you are laying looking under the DS flanges, tilt your head, look across to the PS flange. You should see the upsets. They are about two feet apart from each other.

The flexible hose for the sunroof runs down the A-pillar, and ends at the rocker. Water that drains out, is supposed to then drain out of these little upsets. As previously stated, use zip ties, weed whacker plastic string...something stiff, and poke around into each of the three upset/drains.

I did this, as a preventative.

Good luck. (I'd have posted pix, but no digicam, and can't download here at home, anyway. Sorry!)

Let us know how you make out.

 

[cruiserdan]

Teresa, when you pulled the black plastic plugs did water come out?

If I understand your last post correctly you removed the plugs and then had a rain fall that would have been enough to make things wet again but you were dry. Is that correct?

If so, then it was probably the slit drains backed up and the rocker(s) were filling up and flooding the floor and possibly backing water up the sun roof drains and overflowing the sunroof pan.

I would leave the front rocker plugs out for the time being.

 

[NorCalDoug]

I'm having the same problem...
Yesterday, I had a couple minutes to dink with mine, but learned nothing new.

I fished a bunch of weed-eater line through the sunroof drain tubes until it stopped. Came back out dry.
I removed the black circular plugs on the rocker panels...bone dry.
I tried fishing the weed-eater line into the slits, but the line was too thick. I need a small paper clip...I'll try that later.

Floors are wet...nasty...yucky...blah!
My husky liners are keeping my feet dry...for whatever that's worth...