Vortec Mania Continues On....

[daytonadogie]

I cut and flared the end of the stock GM PS hose to go into the steering box. I could only do a single flair, which i am not crazy about, but the stock Toyota flair was a single too. I'll give it a try, and probably go to AN fittings if this doesn't work.

 

[FJ60Cam]

Did you place it so that the stock 62 driveshafts would drop back in?

They were almost a drop in for mine. I should have bought some first and then planned it like that.

 

[MarkN]

I used the AA mounts and the only problem I have is that I feel a little engine vibration at idle when the motor is cold. I think it is due to the hardness of the rubber used in the mounts. Once you get it going let us know if you feel any engine vibration. If you do not, I may look at these in the future.... The build is look great..... keep the pictures coming..

 

[FJ60Cam]

I used the AA mounts and the only problem I have is that I feel a little engine vibration at idle when the motor is cold. I think it is due to the hardness of the rubber used in the mounts. Once you get it going let us know if you feel any engine vibration. If you do not, I may look at these in the future.... The build is look great..... keep the pictures coming..

Can you post a pic of how hard you have them cranked down? I cranked mine to where the bolt was engaging, which mushroomed the rubber some.

The AA's are stiff, but I was wondering if I got a longer bolt, if I could get a little extra cushion from the rubber.

But, like you said, it's mostly at idle. It could also be my exhaust mounts. Thy aren't the flexiest.

 

[daytonadogie]

Did you place it so that the stock 62 driveshafts would drop back in?

They were almost a drop in for mine. I should have bought some first and then planned it like that.

Yes Cam, as you know, I did measure the driveline distances before and after. I was able to get within 1/4" of stock, so the stock driveshafts should fit. The front shaft had some clearance issues with the tranny pan, but a torch and hammer took care of that.

 

[daytonadogie]

I used the AA mounts and the only problem I have is that I feel a little engine vibration at idle when the motor is cold. I think it is due to the hardness of the rubber used in the mounts. Once you get it going let us know if you feel any engine vibration. If you do not, I may look at these in the future.... The build is look great..... keep the pictures coming..

Thanks Mark, will keep you posted.

After I made these mounts, I came across another option, that will utilize the stock GM mounts.

http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/chevy-motor-mounts-rubber-insulated/

You would need these, along with adaptors to mount the old style GM motor mounts to the LS block. They talk a little about urethane vs rubber mounts on this web page too. I might have gone this route if I hadn't have already built these.

Paul Horton has some good welding videos too.

 

[FJ60Cam]

Yes Cam, as you know, I did measure the driveline distances before and after. I was able to get within 1/4" of stock, so the stock driveshafts should fit. The front shaft had some clearance issues with the tranny pan, but a torch and hammer took care of that.

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Cool. I need to clearance my trans pan too. Which oil pan is that? It looks like it has more clearance on the passenger side than the Camaro pan.

 

[clanlino]

I needed to replace the output shaft on the 4L60E transmission. Also, I've read a couple of threads where the transmission has been a problem after the swap so I decided to rebuild it. End=QUOTE ]


Wish I had rebuild the transmission from the beginning... dam junkyard transmissions! Nice job on the build

 

[daytonadogie]

• Cool. I need to clearance my trans pan too. Which oil pan is that? It looks like it has more clearance on the passenger side than the Camaro pan.

  Oil pan is off a Hummer H3. GM#19212593
  
  You can get it from Summit or Jegs, for under $150, delivered to your door. Comes with windage tray, oil pickup, dip stick tube, even the gasket. Deal!
  
  http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nal-19212593
  
  

 

[daytonadogie]

good photos of thE H3 pan,
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/823769-ls1-oil-pans.html

LS pan dimensions, all of them
http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208618

 

[daytonadogie]

I'm using the stock 62 shifter and fabbed up the linkage to the 4L60E. Looked at a couple of threads and it didn't look that hard, but it took me a full day to get the motion ratios right, so that the shifter indicator and the transmission lever position was correct. After it was all done, I still had to modify the reverse shift gate a bit to make sure that the lockout worked properly. Cut off the end of the factory linkage and threaded some tubing to accept a 5/16" heim joint. I used the cutoff end of the linkage as the lever for the transmission. This made the linkage very adjustable.

The gear indicator now shows everything in the right position except in Park, where the little red marker doesn't show. I can live with that!

 

[FJ60Cam]

Awesome! Genius!

 

[daytonadogie]

I've been wanting a band saw for a long time. Finally broke down an bought a cheapo Harbor freight portable saw, and made a stand for it to cut small brackets and stuff. It works better than I could have hoped for so far.

That brings this thread up to date so far. Im currently working on the wiring harness, and plan on doing the exhaust and fuel lines simultaneously. Thanks for all the comments and encouragement. Im a little nervous about the wiring

 

[daytonadogie]

Thanks Cam, looks like you're having fun with your new hot rod.

 

[FJ60Cam]

Yessir, I'm having a blast!

Have you got any pics from your transmission rebuild of the area under the pan where you clearanced it?

I'm just curious exactly how much room is in there.

 

[SNLC]

Stellar job on those MM. That is the way to go with MM in my opinion. Although I wonder, do you expect the poly bushes to wear out fast? I have used a similar style but it uses a Chevy leaf spring bushing, ie vulcanized steel to rubber rather than a poly bushing. Got some mounts to make up myself in the near future, wondering about the poly bushings in terms of life.

I have had the AA mounts in two v8 Cruisers now, a 60 and my current 80. Hate them! Both trucks the AA mounts have a short life and when they start to go they can let the motor move. Both trucks I have had this happen and the fan came into shroud when it moved.

Dig the rest of the build too. Nice job on the trans shifter. Have you decided yet on back up lights? I got a kit from Lokar for back up light switch that mounts to the trans at the shifter linkage. Checked it out, seems like it will work but need to modify the bracket slightly. Have not got around to installing it, no back up lights is starting to bug me too!

Great idea on the porta band, I would not have thought to do that.

Cheers

 

[FJ60Cam]

Stellar job on those MM. That is the way to go with MM in my opinion. Although I wonder, do you expect the poly bushes to wear out fast? I have used a similar style but it uses a Chevy leaf spring bushing, ie vulcanized steel to rubber rather than a poly bushing. Got some mounts to make up myself in the near future, wondering about the poly bushings in terms of life.

I have had the AA mounts in two v8 Cruisers now, a 60 and my current 80. Hate them! Both trucks the AA mounts have a short life and when they start to go they can let the motor move. Both trucks I have had this happen and the fan came into shroud when it moved.

Dig the rest of the build too. Nice job on the trans shifter. Have you decided yet on back up lights? I got a kit from Lokar for back up light switch that mounts to the trans at the shifter linkage. Checked it out, seems like it will work but need to modify the bracket slightly. Have not got around to installing it, no back up lights is starting to bug me too!

Great idea on the porta band, I would not have thought to do that.

Cheers

What's been the lifespan of your AA mounts? I thought about buying an extra set or two.

 

[cruiser enthuiser]

Clever work with the HF bandsaw!

You got some good stuff happening in this thread. Keep it coming!



-Ed

 

[daytonadogie]

Yessir, I'm having a blast!

Have you got any pics from your transmission rebuild of the area under the pan where you clearanced it?

I'm just curious exactly how much room is in there.

Sorry, no pics. I marked the pan where it needed to be clearanced, then took it down and heated it cherry red at that spot. Hammered it a little at a time and kept checking the fit on the transmission. It got to a point where i was touching the filter, so I relieved it on a belt sander.

 

[daytonadogie]

Stellar job on those MM. That is the way to go with MM in my opinion. Although I wonder, do you expect the poly bushes to wear out fast? I have used a similar style but it uses a Chevy leaf spring bushing, ie vulcanized steel to rubber rather than a poly bushing. Got some mounts to make up myself in the near future, wondering about the poly bushings in terms of life.

I have had the AA mounts in two v8 Cruisers now, a 60 and my current 80. Hate them! Both trucks the AA mounts have a short life and when they start to go they can let the motor move. Both trucks I have had this happen and the fan came into shroud when it moved.

Dig the rest of the build too. Nice job on the trans shifter. Have you decided yet on back up lights? I got a kit from Lokar for back up light switch that mounts to the trans at the shifter linkage. Checked it out, seems like it will work but need to modify the bracket slightly. Have not got around to installing it, no back up lights is starting to bug me too!

Great idea on the porta band, I would not have thought to do that.

Cheers

Thank you! i don't know for sure, but its my understanding that the poly bushings are harder and less prone to deflection than rubber, so i would think that they would last longer. Think skateboard wheels.

Haven't thought much bout the back up lights. I'll probably just mount some cheap auxiliary lights back there and use a manual switch on the dash.

How do you like your 80 compared to the 60? I'm thinking that an 80 may be in my future.