Vintage offroad beauty!!
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WOW, incredible what he tries to get away with. where to start
spelling error word in the first few lines.
3 hinge tailgate? what's with the middle hinge?
pass side running board?
valve cover is wrong
transfer case parking brake?
over spray on some cables and lines on the fire wall
appears to be 2 differnt colrs on the inside rear of the cab
cowl vent?
bed and tailgate?????
what's with the firewall plate?
and on, and on, and on.
spelling error word in the first few lines.
3 hinge tailgate? what's with the middle hinge?
pass side running board?
valve cover is wrong
transfer case parking brake?
over spray on some cables and lines on the fire wall
appears to be 2 differnt colrs on the inside rear of the cab
cowl vent?
bed and tailgate?????
what's with the firewall plate?
and on, and on, and on.
How can it "pass emmissions in all 50 states including California" if there is no SMOG equipment on it?
That also must be an uber rare 2F air filter assy.
The chrome edging on the fenders and doors has to go.
That also must be an uber rare 2F air filter assy.
The chrome edging on the fenders and doors has to go.
It's just too bad we don't know where this is. Those pictures weren't taken in Flagstaff. He has been know to resell a vehicle we out moving from the original owner location. Air cleaner is probably correct for a non USA import of the time. Everthing from the cap forward looks like it could be stock. Not a expert on 2Fs but didn't the last couple of years have Toyota cast in them. This is also from a market that still didn't have heaters. South America? The rear bed is something home made. Like like something that would come from Columbia. Not sure isn't these the color on Columbia license plates? I couldn't tell in the pictures, does it even have the rest of the front bench seat? Over all I would say this is a rare gem. I don't know any Land Cruiser collector who won't like to own it.
Not owning a 45 myself, I'd have to say that owning an uber rare 1985 would actually be pretty freaken cool. That said, how would one track down the originality of this rig??
I noticed all the diamond plate in the bed, so my guess is that this is not stock Toyota, but what about the rest??
Not a bad looking rig, but would hate to see what is under the newer paint.
I noticed all the diamond plate in the bed, so my guess is that this is not stock Toyota, but what about the rest??
Not a bad looking rig, but would hate to see what is under the newer paint.
My guess would be a Venezuela-spec cab/chassis model with a home-made bed and cultural modifications.
Although the 40/45 tunnel shifter covers changed in 10/82 for the non-PTO models to allow for the raised space needed for optional 5-speeds, oddly Venezuela-spec trucks continued to come with the flat covers. A different floor panel did allow for a non-bench seat, although other markets still came with the split-seat version.
The 900-series serial numbers were used thru the 1980s for the Euro export models, but this particular number wasn't in that series.
Certain individual parts for the Venezuela-spec 40s and 45s were manufactured into 4/86 although the vehicle serial numbers were not published. So likely 900-series "VIN" numbers could have been stamped for them. However, I personally would want to see iron-clad proof that this specific truck was the very last one off the assembly line to believe the seller's inference.
The valve cover, air cleaner, cowl vent, tail-brake, lack of heater would be correct for the year and market.
The bed likely would not be authorized by Toyota--certainly not that tailgate attachment. Similar-looking but better-fitting beds were locally made in South Africa for their cab/chassis models.
South American vehicles are famous for hard-use and wet rust, so the respray job could be masking some nasty stuff. Purchasing sight-unseen is foolish, and caveat emptor--reputations are earned--good or bad.
At a decent price with a competent and very thorough inspection, could be interesting if all checks out. But likely will be sold on-line, expensively, to some unsuspecting enthusiast who will then blindly pass-on a provenance created and embellished to inflate a sale.
Although the 40/45 tunnel shifter covers changed in 10/82 for the non-PTO models to allow for the raised space needed for optional 5-speeds, oddly Venezuela-spec trucks continued to come with the flat covers. A different floor panel did allow for a non-bench seat, although other markets still came with the split-seat version.
The 900-series serial numbers were used thru the 1980s for the Euro export models, but this particular number wasn't in that series.
Certain individual parts for the Venezuela-spec 40s and 45s were manufactured into 4/86 although the vehicle serial numbers were not published. So likely 900-series "VIN" numbers could have been stamped for them. However, I personally would want to see iron-clad proof that this specific truck was the very last one off the assembly line to believe the seller's inference.
The valve cover, air cleaner, cowl vent, tail-brake, lack of heater would be correct for the year and market.
The bed likely would not be authorized by Toyota--certainly not that tailgate attachment. Similar-looking but better-fitting beds were locally made in South Africa for their cab/chassis models.
South American vehicles are famous for hard-use and wet rust, so the respray job could be masking some nasty stuff. Purchasing sight-unseen is foolish, and caveat emptor--reputations are earned--good or bad.
At a decent price with a competent and very thorough inspection, could be interesting if all checks out. But likely will be sold on-line, expensively, to some unsuspecting enthusiast who will then blindly pass-on a provenance created and embellished to inflate a sale.
That bed is just like an 84 lpb 45 I saw in Colombia. A few of them in Colombia / Venezuela. Mostly 43's in Colombia and Venezuela has many Lhd 45 troopies. Practically all gassers in these two countries.
Not quite.......
I sent this to vintage, but surprisingly, haven't heard back from him:
Dear vintageoffroad,
This is NOT the last fj45 from the factory. The fj45-lv was made until Oct '85 and the very last of the 40 series was a fj45lp-k3 made in Apr '86. The thing you have with the suspect id plate was produced from Aug '80-Oct '84.
My guess you will not hear back from him.
Someone should ask the question..where can this vehicle be seen? It may not be even in this country.
A little bit more research:
These trucks turn up as "Toyota Macho Pick-up" in Venezuela.
Most seem to have the dog-earred headache racks, three stakebed side pockets, and side latched tailgates.
There was an assembly plant: Toyota de Venezuela. Hugo Chavez threatened to nationalize it.
The front turn signals usually appear to be the FJ70 style, and the tailgates fairly massive constructions.
Seats by now look to be take-offs from later vehicles.
The particular truck in question could have either been a cab/chassis only item assembled in Japan with a Venezuelan-made bed, or a CKD (complete knock-down) Japanese-made but crated and shipped to foreign assembly plants. During those years, many countries demanded new vehicles imported must have a certain percentage of locally-built content, similar to the Brazilian Toyota Bandeirante, which early-on came with a Mercedes diesel engine.
Either way, the ad for the truck being the last truck built in Japan, is not wholly correct. At best, the cab and frame may have been Japanese manufactured along with some innards that may remain today.
Again would have to check it out carefully.
These trucks turn up as "Toyota Macho Pick-up" in Venezuela.
Most seem to have the dog-earred headache racks, three stakebed side pockets, and side latched tailgates.
There was an assembly plant: Toyota de Venezuela. Hugo Chavez threatened to nationalize it.
The front turn signals usually appear to be the FJ70 style, and the tailgates fairly massive constructions.
Seats by now look to be take-offs from later vehicles.
The particular truck in question could have either been a cab/chassis only item assembled in Japan with a Venezuelan-made bed, or a CKD (complete knock-down) Japanese-made but crated and shipped to foreign assembly plants. During those years, many countries demanded new vehicles imported must have a certain percentage of locally-built content, similar to the Brazilian Toyota Bandeirante, which early-on came with a Mercedes diesel engine.
Either way, the ad for the truck being the last truck built in Japan, is not wholly correct. At best, the cab and frame may have been Japanese manufactured along with some innards that may remain today.
Again would have to check it out carefully.
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It seems that, out of the various trucks (HJ, BJ, and FJ) in the 45 body styles coming out of the factory in Japan, the HJ47's went the longest, all the way to June of 1985:
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see if his mouth is moving??
... sorry, couldn't resist - that's an old sales joke
How do you know when your sales guy is lying to you... his mouth is moving.
I have no personal experience with Mushro - just piling on...
... sorry, couldn't resist - that's an old sales joke
How do you know when your sales guy is lying to you... his mouth is moving.
I have no personal experience with Mushro - just piling on...