Very detailed ECU relearn, according to ChatGPT (19 Viewers)

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kty

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I've been trying to solve sluggish acceleration in my higher mileage LC200 (sluggish compared to my other 200, which has a lot more pop) for awhile. I'd done fuel injector cleaning, induction maintenance, ECU reset, etc., without any improvement.

Last week I took it to a different trusted LC mechanic for another opinion. He said the plugs were gapped wrong and old, so we did that. Still not much of a difference.

Meanwhile I've got a thread going with ChatGPT about this (I use a project with my truck's maintenance history stored as knowledge). When I mentioned what the mechanic said about the plugs being gapped wrong, GPT suggested doing a very methodical and detailed ECU relearn.

So I'm curious -- is this just BS or is it worth the trouble of driving somewhere to properly attempt this? Here's what it suggested:

This driving routine helps accelerate adaptive learning, especially for:
  • Throttle response
  • Air/fuel ratio (short- and long-term fuel trims)
  • Transmission shift logic
  • Torque converter behavior

⚙️ Prep Steps (Before Driving)

  1. Clear Adaptations (Optional but Ideal):
    • Disconnect negative battery terminal for 10+ minutes.
    • Press brake pedal while disconnected (discharges ECU capacitors).
    • Reconnect and start vehicle without touching the throttle.
    • Let it idle for 5–10 minutes, then shut off.
  2. Confirm Proper Warm-Up:
    • Before starting the drive, make sure:
      • Engine coolant is up to temp (180–200°F)
      • Transmission fluid is warmed (at least 130°F)

🛣️ Spirited ECU Relearn Driving Procedure

Perform this on open, safe roads or highway stretches. Total time: ~20–30 min.

✅ Phase 1: Low-Speed Precision (Throttle + Timing + Trim)

Do this in a quiet residential or industrial area.
  1. Drive at 20–25 mph
  2. Use gentle throttle (5–15%) and hold steady
  3. After 10–15 seconds, release throttle to coast
  4. Repeat 6–8 times, gradually using more throttle (up to ~30%)
Purpose: Relearn closed-loop throttle and fuel trims

✅ Phase 2: Medium-Speed Acceleration (Ignition + Load)

Use a 40–55 mph road with a long straightaway.
  1. From a stop or slow roll, accelerate to 50 mph at ~50–60% throttle
  2. Let it hold a gear for 2–3 seconds before shifting
  3. Coast or lightly brake to 20–25 mph
  4. Repeat 4–5 times
Purpose: Teach ECU new timing/torque curve with higher cylinder pressure

✅ Phase 3: Full-Load Pulls (Throttle + Shift Logic)

Highway or open road only — do 3–4 wide open throttle pulls.
  1. Roll from 20 mph → accelerate at WOT (100%) to 60–70 mph
  2. Let off throttle and coast gently
  3. Do it again with cruise control off
  4. Bonus: Try one uphill if possible
Purpose: ECU calibrates peak load behavior (ignition, fueling, torque converter slip)

✅ Phase 4: Cruise and Downshift

  1. Cruise at 60 mph for 3–5 minutes
  2. Lightly tap throttle to force small downshifts
  3. Let it coast again to idle
  4. Pull over and let idle for 2 minutes
 
That won't clear the transmission adaptation. However, I think there's another issue causing this problem.
Me too honestly. What do you think it is?

Next up would be a compression test.

This truck has 250k. It still drives great, but my LC with 140k is noticeably quicker and more responsive esp at lower speeds.
 
Compression test, check fuel pressure/pump duty cycle should be good places to start.

Compared to your other 200–is it sluggish at all throttle positions? Do both your 200s have the same transmission (6 vs 8 speed)
 
Worth checking coils too! A failing coil doesn't always result in a CEL right away.

Fuel --> Spark --> Compression
 
Compression test, check fuel pressure/pump duty cycle should be good places to start.

Compared to your other 200–is it sluggish at all throttle positions? Do both your 200s have the same transmission (6 vs 8 speed)
Thanks -- those are next up.

Both are 2015.

Sluggish in low to mid positions. Just feels like it's working harder and delivering less. I've a very steep hill on my street and the snappier truck practically flies up. The other climbs steadily but it ain't flyin'.
 
Does the engine rev normally while in neutral? Can you confirm that this is not a transmission issue?
 

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