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OffRoadScott

OffRoadScott

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I am trying to register the LC and down here in the Valley I have to pass emissions. The last 2 times it has failed due to high HC/CO. I have been told to try the denatured alcohol but if it fails again I was thinking of registering it at my uncles in Show Low.

Does anyone know what is needed exactly to register it in Show Low when it has been previously registered here in the Valley?
 
Denatured alcohol works, but I'm sure it depends on how much over the limit you're testing. I did it on a motorcycle, failed the first test, then tried 50% DA, and then the next test it blew super clean. I don't remember the numbers on that as it was probably ten years ago.

Your other option is to register as a classic vehicle. Vehicles registered as classic are not required to pass emissions. The catch is that you need to have classic vehicle insurance on your truck BEFORE they will allow you to register. I've done it on two trucks. Classic vehicle insurance comes with some limitations that you may or may not want to deal with. In my case, eventually I got a wild hair and decided to go get an emission test with my 62 and it passed so I dropped the classic insurance and have it registered as normal now. The question I had for that scenario (that I couldn't find an answer for) is... had the truck failed the test, would the county have required anything from me at that point? Thankfully, I didn't have to find out. Still would like to know, though.
 
RHINO said:
they have been cracking down on that lately, you need a physical address, and you may need to show proof of ownership and/or proof of residence.

you would be better going to a dmv in show low rather than phx.
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Yeah I am having a hard time trying to find a link on the States website to change the address of the LC but I am not interested in taking time to head up there to be denied.

Guess it is time to cross my fingers and get the denatured alcohol and pray to the emissions gods... LOL!!!
 
toy_tek said:
Denatured alcohol works, but I'm sure it depends on how much over the limit you're testing. I did it on a motorcycle, failed the first test, then tried 50% DA, and then the next test it blew super clean. I don't remember the numbers on that as it was probably ten years ago.

Your other option is to register as a classic vehicle. Vehicles registered as classic are not required to pass emissions. The catch is that you need to have classic vehicle insurance on your truck BEFORE they will allow you to register. I've done it on two trucks. Classic vehicle insurance comes with some limitations that you may or may not want to deal with. In my case, eventually I got a wild hair and decided to go get an emission test with my 62 and it passed so I dropped the classic insurance and have it registered as normal now. The question I had for that scenario (that I couldn't find an answer for) is... had the truck failed the test, would the county have required anything from me at that point? Thankfully, I didn't have to find out. Still would like to know, though.
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Classic car the LC is not on the list. The State uses a list from a certain website to determine if it is classic or not, historic is another issue.
 
OffRoadScott said:
cross my fingers and get the denatured alcohol and pray to the emissions gods... LOL!!!
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Replace PCV valve and fresh oil change will help your cause. Personally I'd figure out what's wrong with the truck and fix it to pass emissions, thats win/win.
OffRoadScott said:
Classic car the LC is not on the list. The State uses a list from a certain website to determine if it is classic or not, historic is another issue.
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I'm not talking about tags, I'm talking about registration. There's a difference. There's no list for that (that I'm aware of), you can register as classic and not have historic tags. conversely, you can have historic tags and have a normal registration. My 62 has historic tags, but registered regular as I mentioned in the previous post. My 83 Toyota pickup has a classic registration (no emissions requirement), but has normal tags on it.


this is the first hit I got when I googled it. looks like 15 years old is the cutoff. Hagerty insurance is who I used. again, this may or may not be a hoop you want to jump through, but it's an option. Just make sure you have the insurance card before you go to register.

tucson.com

Got collector-car insurance? Smog test no longer needed

Collectible cars due for registration renewals starting April 30 no longer will have to pass Arizona emission tests.
tucson.com tucson.com
 
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Knowing the condition of your fuel system and ignition system. I would say your likely culprit is your CAT. High HC and CO is definitely a possibility of a faulty CAT.
 
I put a single magnaflow universal cat on mine that was like $80, always passed emissions for the 7 years I had to do it. exhaust doesn't stink as bad as it did with the stock cats too.
 
peacesells63 said:
I put a single magnaflow universal cat on mine that was like $80, always passed emissions for the 7 years I had to do it. exhaust doesn't stink as bad as it did with the stock cats too.
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I have been looking at Magnaflow universal cats and bolt in cats. Then Bosal makes bolt in cats as well for about $110 less then Magnaflow. But I am honestly thinking about doing one single cat like you did.
 
I just found out about Arizona's VVRP Voluntary Vehicle Repair Program. The State is willing to pay upto $900 in repairs to fix the LC and get it to pass, I am required to pay $100 co-pay and if repairs are over $1000 I pay that too.
 
Hope the VVRP program helps fix your issue! I have my older truck registered in Apache county and it's quite the process. You need a physical address (No PO Box) and need to have a lease or a utility bill to a property out there - definitely not as easy as it used to be.
 
I have lived in Tucson for 9 years, but I never got a new ID. My current ID still has a Eloy PO Box, and I register all my rigs at a third party in Casa Grande. They don't ask for anything, and I have 5 year registrations on a 60 and 55 for less than $60.00 per rig. I guess you would need to have your ID reflect a Show Low address, but the third parties never ask to verify current address. They simply don't care.
 
OffRoadScott said:
Classic car the LC is not on the list. The State uses a list from a certain website to determine if it is classic or not, historic is another issue.
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You just have to get classic car insurance (e.g. Hagerty). You present the coverage page that states it has the classic car insurance on the top and it will be registered. Try going to a title service office instead of DMV.
 
I insure all the older rigs with Hagerty. No hassle at all, I go to a Third-Party DMV called Desert Title. If you want to register as a Antique or "older" vehicle you need proof of coverage to show them before they will issue a new registration. Hagerty wants to know where the car is parked, how is it used, what the value is, and how often you'll drive it. Easy deal.
 
I did not get the exception from the State, I am thinking the last time it failed was over 60 days ago. I am going to get it tested again using denatured alcohol. Does anyone know how long a good test last?
 
Go to a Third-Party DMV and register it in Show Low.
Use Show Low for the vehicle address and use your Phx for your mailing address.
3rd party just want your money and do things DMV will not
 
So you took out Hagerty Classic Car insurance, took it to a 3rd party DMV like Desert Title and it was rejected?
 
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