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wonderful weather

such wonderful weather we are having. Not enough of a whole to have to use the 4wd but enough to slide around in.:D
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so i am cruisin the web and look at new arb bull bars for the 60. They want as much for that bumper as i paid for the rig!! Just sayin!
 
thats why I am building my own.... front and rear. not that hard if you have the space, equipment and talent
 
thats why I am building my own.... front and rear. not that hard if you have the space, equipment and talent

yeah i have none of that.
 
I'll be building my own also, just need to find some time.
 
i've got most of the materials to start building a bumper

just got to decide which one i want to build first and then borrow some equipment.

I'm thinking maybe sliders first, the wife is always complaining about having to climb into the rig then jumping out
 
So, the 666th reply really seemed to slow this place down, here's to lighting a fire under everyone's ass again
 
So, the 666th reply really seemed to slow this place down, here's to lighting a fire under everyone's ass again

I'll try to get this bad boy started again... :flipoff2:

Does anyone know much about metal buildings? I'm hoping to move in about a year or so out a bit farther into the country and want to have a workspace similar to Alan's with one large garage door but also with a small finished storefront in a corner and a crashpad (bedroom/bathroom/TV) in the other. I'm thinking enough room to comfortably have 4 vehicles in there. Hoping to keep it simple to start and add things later (better finished space, lift, etc).

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You need to be over about 4500 s/f to get the cost savings of an all steel building. Otherwise you would be cheaper with wood.

Jeremy
 
You need to be over about 4500 s/f to get the cost savings of an all steel building. Otherwise you would be cheaper with wood.

Jeremy

I'm thinking about something similar to this
Metal Garages - Engineered
and pricing
http://www.gaport.com/price/sheets/nc40widegarage.htm
40x60x12 12ga = $27,830 + 2 10x10 doors @ $450 ea + 2 regular doors @ $200 ea + 2 windows @ $150 each = ~ $30,000 supposedly installed.

Can I get wood framing for less?
Wouldn't steel be safer than wood (I have set myself and things around me on fire before).
 
I thought you meant a metal commercial building for your business. That isn't the same thing I was thinking. That is is just a light gauge garage, not a "metal building" that I was thinking of. Still, I could build a pole barn for less than that and put it up myself. $30k can buy a lot of material. You still need a slap, and any interior walls, insulation, etc. If it were me I would build a wood garage, but I am a contractor and don't have to hire someone to erect it. Looking at those pictures I have no idea how they get a 130 mph wind rating with that little bit of material. Not that you need that up there.

I would suspect the cost to frame the same building not counting sheathing and siding would be around $5k for walls, and maybe the same for trusses. I would call your local truss manufacturer and get a quote on the trusses, and then I could help you estimate the rest of the framing cost. Windows and doors will be the same. But you would have a building framed out of 2x6's and wood trusses that will last a LONG time. If there is a fire, that light gauge frame will melt just as fast as a 2x6. Now a red iron building is a different animal.


Some quick figures brings a wood frame garage with Hardi-panel siding and arch shingles to about $20,000 installed. Add the cost for the doors and windows and you are looking at about $5k-$7k cheaper for a 2x6 building over a light gauge garage.

Jeremy
 
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Gotcha.

Prob 2/3 of the space would be work with 1/3 finished for business display. Finishing was not calculated into the $ I just posted up. I'd still need framed walls, insulation, electricity, plumbing, HVAC, etc.
 
wood= cheaper!! U could always do the interior of the building at a later date in order to help with the sting of $$$ as well.
 
wood= cheaper!! U could always do the interior of the building at a later date in order to help with the sting of $$$ as well.

Kinda my thoughts about phasing the construction = get it usable and I can hang additional drywall (ie: expand commercial display space later). I'd also be fine with completing the full bath including shower, TV room and sleeping area later too.
 
I'll pull whatever permits I need just to be on the safe side.

There would be definite phases of construction.
Phase 1 = exterior, roof, doors, windows, electrical, rough plumbing, finish part of commercial display space
Phase 2 = I'd do most of this work including finishing additional commercial space, finishing full bath, TV and sleeping area, additional work benches, etc
Phase 3 = Lift

I'd need permits for Phase 1 but I'd have to check on Phase 2.
 
Based on the structure used above, figure on adding backup walls for the exterior as well. So for $20k you would have the wood structure complete and ready for insulation/drywall. Also, I am not sure code will allow you to "occupy" a structure like that as well.

Jeremy
 
Also don't forget that steel, aluminum and copper has gone up 25% lately with no sign of coming down. Wood material has finally leveled off somewhat.

Jeremy
 

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