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How much does it weigh?
Too big in my opinion. Max trailer 5,000 lbs, max tongue 500 lbs. Dead-weight only.
In adittion a trailer of that size uses a load leveler. Toyota specifically discourages the use of a load distributing hitch on an 80 series.
In adittion a trailer of that size uses a load leveler. Toyota specifically discourages the use of a load distributing hitch on an 80 series.
cruiserdan said:
Really? I pull a 5000# camper with my 80 and use a load leveler. Is it going to hurt my baby?
P.S. the front diff is in and rides fine!
CDAN saved me about $350!!!
timbercruiser said:
Well I to have used a weight distribution hitch on the cruiser in the past. I've stopped. Never have found an answer as to why from Yota, but it is very specifically NOT recommended in the owner's manual.
I use Airlift airbags now and much prefer them.
Airstreams run heavey--that's a fact. I'd been Jonesing for one for quite a while--like a Bambi to replace my Scamp. But I've come to the conclusion that the Scamp is much easier on the hitch, so I'm content to stick with it.
A 27' AirStream is a heavy trailer...I'll bet it's easily over 6K "equipped" (most posted weights are "dry", i.e., without anything in the trailer other than stock equipment/parts. Don't think I'd pull one with my truck.
A 27' AirStream is a heavy trailer...I'll bet it's easily over 6K "equipped" (most posted weights are "dry", i.e., without anything in the trailer other than stock equipment/parts. Don't think I'd pull one with my truck.
What an 80 can pull and what is safe to pull is two different question.
I once pull my 60 on a trailer with my 40...It had no problem pulling it, but was it safe? NO
When you are pulling 5000# with your 80 and you loose a tire on the trailer at 65mph you will understand what I trying to say. Be safe
I once pull my 60 on a trailer with my 40...It had no problem pulling it, but was it safe? NO
When you are pulling 5000# with your 80 and you loose a tire on the trailer at 65mph you will understand what I trying to say. Be safe
Brentbba said:
Doh! Didn't realize it was not recommended by Toyota. I tow with a weight distribution hitch a half dozen times a year or so. I've never had any issues and the truck tows fantastic with the hitch (though the load isn't too bad at about 4,000 lbs). Anyone have any idea why Toyota recommends against it?
Mike
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Weight distribution hitches lift the rear of the truck, that means the front brakes do more work, rears contribute less.
Airbags lift the rear also, but without transferring weight to the front tires. The brake proportioning valve should transfer more braking to the front.
I towed 100+ miles/day for about a year with airbags. In panic stops, I felt the rear locking as ABS kicked in. I expected the fronts to lock first with airbags, but braking seemed well proportioned. Maybe my brake proportioning valve is out of adjustment? It's never been messed with and my suspension is stock other than airbags.
Search my brother's posts (IdahoDoug), he's had some hairy incidents towing 6000#+ trailers in mountains, his 80 performed very impressively.
You haven't mentioned trailer brakes. I towed without them briefly, hit a deer at 60, was amazed how long it took to stop. That trailer was only about 3000#. Most states require trailer brakes over a certain weight, look in the front of a road atlas for state towing regs.
Airbags lift the rear also, but without transferring weight to the front tires. The brake proportioning valve should transfer more braking to the front.
I towed 100+ miles/day for about a year with airbags. In panic stops, I felt the rear locking as ABS kicked in. I expected the fronts to lock first with airbags, but braking seemed well proportioned. Maybe my brake proportioning valve is out of adjustment? It's never been messed with and my suspension is stock other than airbags.
Search my brother's posts (IdahoDoug), he's had some hairy incidents towing 6000#+ trailers in mountains, his 80 performed very impressively.
You haven't mentioned trailer brakes. I towed without them briefly, hit a deer at 60, was amazed how long it took to stop. That trailer was only about 3000#. Most states require trailer brakes over a certain weight, look in the front of a road atlas for state towing regs.
Hello Hello
I am new to Cruisers and new to this forum but recently bought a '97 80 and last weekend pulled a '84 Toyota pickup about 500 miles (Omaha-Denver) approx. 5000 lbs with a dolly, overall I thought it did well, am used to pulling with trucks and didn't have any problems, I think the key question here is what type of terrain, here in the midwest it is obviously flat but if you are pulling though hilly or mountainous states I don't think I would even consider 6000 lbs, not with a stock cruiser, I would not only be worreid about getting up over mountains but also getting down with stock brakes and not only getting up and down but without tearing up your rig.......if you just can't decide try hooking it up and driving it around a little in a deserted area with the same type of terrain so that you can test the braking/pulling capabilities?????? Just an idea.
Brent
I am new to Cruisers and new to this forum but recently bought a '97 80 and last weekend pulled a '84 Toyota pickup about 500 miles (Omaha-Denver) approx. 5000 lbs with a dolly, overall I thought it did well, am used to pulling with trucks and didn't have any problems, I think the key question here is what type of terrain, here in the midwest it is obviously flat but if you are pulling though hilly or mountainous states I don't think I would even consider 6000 lbs, not with a stock cruiser, I would not only be worreid about getting up over mountains but also getting down with stock brakes and not only getting up and down but without tearing up your rig.......if you just can't decide try hooking it up and driving it around a little in a deserted area with the same type of terrain so that you can test the braking/pulling capabilities?????? Just an idea.
Brent
He aint no bba though............
Brentbba said:
Yup........
Somebody needs to call me any buy somethin'............
It's funny...whenever I see Brent's screen name, I think "Brenet Bubba". Don't ask my why, but it happens.
I don't think my mind can deal with an new "Brent".
I don't think my mind can deal with an new "Brent".
Brentbba said:
WHich bags do you have? I see Performance has them for about $80. I've thought about them. Cruiser still squats even with EQ hitch.
I'll save my pennies.
