Just purchased my next LX, a 2013 this time, previously had an 08 with 275/65R20 (Measured size 34.1" x 10.6") Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws. Thinking about trying out the Toyo Open Country A/T III in a 35x11.50R17 size. (Measured sized 34.5" x 11.4") but noticed this size is only available in a C load range. I know that's still fine from a load perspective but I have always skewed towards E rated tires for the durability. The C is a 6ply vs 10ply. Does anyone have enough offroad miles on these things to comment on durability? I tend to drive my vehicles very hard and I'm not too gentle on tires lol
Toyo Open Country A/T III - Availibility?
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The set of Toyo AT3 are going to be my next tire, they are a no-brainer when the Falken At3w is the exact same price as them. I'm also going P-rated over LT because there is more silica in the compound, so winter and wet traction will be marginally better, along with a better ride.
A bit of a shame that Falkens increased their price of the AT3w now to where they cost as much as KO2s. Afterall, Falken is still a more budget oriented brand, and theres no way I'm paying for a Falken tire when Yokohama and Toyos are same price/less. I have the At3ws on my Ram, and theres slight cracking in between the treads after 20k miles and 2-ish years. Not going back to them ever, especially at that price, so Toyo At3 it is.
In terms of best AT for the road and handling, take a look at the Yokohama At G015
A bit of a shame that Falkens increased their price of the AT3w now to where they cost as much as KO2s. Afterall, Falken is still a more budget oriented brand, and theres no way I'm paying for a Falken tire when Yokohama and Toyos are same price/less. I have the At3ws on my Ram, and theres slight cracking in between the treads after 20k miles and 2-ish years. Not going back to them ever, especially at that price, so Toyo At3 it is.
In terms of best AT for the road and handling, take a look at the Yokohama At G015
I have cracking in between the tread lugs of my Nitto Ridge Grapplers after 12 months and 26K miles.
I just ordered 5 of 275/75r18 from my local shop and they should be delivered in about 3 days. They told me there were only 9 available for them to order.
The old ply ratings are notional as they apply to modern tires. It's more a pressure rating than a durability rating. Tire manufacturers commonly achieve this with higher gauge belts or more belts per inch. Ply construction may or may not be changed, but sometimes material actually goes down with higher ratings as it's load capacity is ultimately a pressure and thermal limitation. More material flexing heats up more which is why it needs high pressure capacities to to minimize sidewall deflection.
If you look at the weight of the 35x11.5R17, it's not any less (material) weight to comparable LT-E tires, and off-road durability should still all be there.
Well, i can’t speak for winter conditions, but Defender in LT or XL are plenty tough for off-road: Review: New Michelin Defender LTX M/S Tires - https://tractionlife.com/michelin-defender-ltx-ms-review/
Now, it may not have aggressive lugs of true ATs, they should be good for off-road for most people.
If I'm being honest, I'd have Defenders on both the 100 and the 200 if they looked better. They are a fantastic all around tire.
i have the defenders XL on my 100, they have been great. I have not tried them in snow but they did fine on the beach and forest service roads and were good on the highway.
appreciate everyone’s thoughts on the Toyo s. I had the ATIIIs XL in stock size installed today on my 200. Tire shop was able to source in 2 days. Initial thoughts, slight increase in noise but would equate it to the Yakima roof rack noise on the HE And goes away as i crank up some tunes and let the JBL shine (or based on the head unit thread should I say Pioneer?). I have not had them above 50 mph.
Last week I ordered 4 275/70R18 (the blackwall version that is made in USA, Georgia specifically) from SimpleTire and they shipped next day and arrived 2 days after that. Every tire shop I contacted locally (5 in total) said they couldn't get them due to backorder. I sent Toyo a message directly and they said they can't give ETA's but they are shipping as they make them. I installed these on my 2017 Tundra Limited CrewMax, although I would love a second set for the LC
Hey guys. I have a stock 2017 LC 200 and will be getting Toyo AT3s...as soon as I can find them. Anyone know if the Toyos in LC stock size (285/60R/18) fit in the spare tire space? Don't know why they wouldn't, but thought I'd ask.
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Finally found stock. Ordered 5 Toyo AT3s via TireRack. Estimated date of delivery time over five weeks (6/2/21).
I have a stock 2016 LC200 and considering the Toyo OC AT III in 285/65/18 as well. How do you like them? Any rubbing at all? Thanks!
Taking notes here. Let us know what you think. Running 275 65 18 SL that are standard on the Tundra Pro. Michelin LTX AT2s
2020 HE that Eric built and traded out the tires for me.
I like them a lot but I've always up-sized tires on my SUVs (LTs) and like the firmer ride. I've experienced no rubbing and believe I've made every turn forward and reverse at full lock, however I haven't gone under and looked with a flashlight or anything like that. I've haven't felt any rubbing at all (no mods, no trimming, etc.). I will say that up until 60 mph the noise level is barely noticible but from 65-80 there is definitely a bit of a rumble. Again, to be expected compared to the OEM Dunlops so just be prepared for that. I'll admit I'm all about the "look" and have received no less than 3-4 very positive comments when filling up at gas stations or in parking in lots since I've added the Toyos.
My experience with the 275 65 18 SL rated has been the opposite. The tires look Much less aggressive than the E rated ones much to my chagrin. However there’s no noise at speed nor do I get any comments. It’s a trade off.
Do you notice any different when it comes to fuel economy and braking? I couldn’t justify the trade off if braking distance is significantly impacted because the truck’s braking to be quite squishy in stock form.
