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Direct Ignition Coil Boot Kit 671-8184

Thanks for the part number.

Teach a man to fish, you feed for a life time. .. Give the man a fish and he goes ! ................ LOL

I agree with this, but unfortunately when I use the search tool and enter 2006, the boot kit does not show in results. If I change to 2003 or earlier year, it shows up. Coils are the same part number for different years according to this link. I don't see any reason the boot kit would be specific to 2003 and earlier.
 
I too installed a set of TT this last week and new Denso coils. on my 00 w/350K miles. Seem to start just a little quicker (shorter crank time) D vib reduced a little also.

I bought 16 TT spark plugs. Their USA made Denso. I too found gap a bit tight and didn't change it. I was more concerned with the alignment of the two electrodes. My first 8 all were aligned okay. Although some of the outer electrodes were not welded in the centered, but slightly off-set.

I massaged Denso and they actually responded "this time":
"Paul,
Thanks for letting us know your feeling about DENSO, our spark plugs enjoy a very good reputation and many OEM use our plugs as standard equipment.
Make sure you adjust your plugs to match the factory specification and do not rely on the gap advertised.
As for the "life" of the IK20TT there are no "hard numbers" but you should expect over 100K .
Good luck,"

I know we can not re-gap a spark plug once used. We can re-gap new. But with the TT plugs, I also was under impression we should not change gap. The reasoning being, it's so difficult to get electrodes in-line. Yet this Denso rep said to gap them. Possibly he didn't know much about these TT plugs.

In this picture you can see the two electrodes. Look close at the one on your right. It seem electrode is not welded in the center, although electrodes are line up. This should not make any difference in spark. But it does make me question the manufacture process at Denso USA. I just check another box and found the first one I looked at, the electrodes were not perfectly in line, from top to bottom one.
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Thanks for the part number.



I agree with this, but unfortunately when I use the search tool and enter 2006, the boot kit does not show in results. If I change to 2003 or earlier year, it shows up. Coils are the same part number for different years according to this link. I don't see any reason the boot kit would be specific to 2003 and earlier.
One of the reasons I avoid giving PN #'s difference in make, model, year may yield differences. With the Denso boot kit they should all be the same, and I do see the Denso kit when I use 2006 or earlier. Find My Part


But often with Toyota/Lexus, the month of manufacture is important to get a correct part. At Toyota, I known they have two different "Toyota Denso"coil PN #s for earlier models. These coils look ever so slightly different from each other and are made at different locations (USA/Japan). The "Denso" coils we buy, are slightly different even from those.

So I feel it just best for each to pull ones PN's. (tech to fish) Especial since mud reaches globally.
 
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Seem to start just a little quicker (shorter crank time) D vib reduced a little also.

The quick start might be the case for me as well. I notice it idles a bit higher initially on cold start too. Perhaps because a more thorough burn?

Although some of the outer electrodes were not welded in the centered, but slightly off-set.

Mine were like this also. If looking at them straight on they were in line. They were all slightly off when looking from the side.

With the Denso boot kit they should all be the same, and I do see the Denso kit when I use 2006 or earlier. Find My Part

Like shevy77 said, no boot kit comes up for me either. I selected everything and scrolled through it all and didn't see a boot kit. The coil does show up. I clicked the coil to see if a link for the boot kit was there, but didn't see it. Perhaps I'm just missing it. It's happened before ;)
 
Make sure to select year, make, model, engine then check ignition, then search. I see coil, kit, plugs, etc every time no matter which year. Find My Part
 
So, I had to go back to 2003 for the kit to show up. Since the coils were the same across the years, it's all good but I wonder why not listed for the later years?
 
I've read a bunch on here about people having issues with the #7 plug removal. I didn't have any trouble with it. If you not only remove the fuel line/vacuum line bracket as @2001LC said, but also remove the bolt that holds the A/C line to the bracket on the firewall, the bolt holding the LH rear engine cover mount and the vacuum line to the VSV(?) mounted on the IM, #7 becomes much more accessible. The A/C line only has to move a little bit to make it easier to remove the coil. Mine didn't want to come out without loosening up the A/C line. I wasn't going to force it either. The other parts removed/loosened give room to swing a wrench from the top of the motor without a swivel if you don't have one. It only take a couple extra minutes to do these extra steps and makes the job easier, IMHO. HTH.
 
This thread has woken many to the issue of spake plugs waking out. For that I'm grateful.

Still we're seeing more and more plugs fuse to coil and threads in heads burnt-out as fleet ages. Number one reason seems to be plugs walking out. At first plugs may sound like exhaust leak, sound going away after warm up. But over time, sound doesn't go away. At that point gasses are blowing out thread constantly. Spark plugs not firmly seated and ground must weaken the spark. This in-turn draws more power from coil. Coil then over heats. It's a bad cycle we can prevent.


I just swapped out plugs as a baseline for me. Mileage is 75k on an '06. The old plugs(NGK) looked great and the truck ran fine. I replaced with the Denso Iridium TT plug for the 2UZ-fe. Time will tell but the truck runs great, as it did before. I do wonder if it will help with the drone in D at a stop. I haven't driven it enough to tell if it helped or not. One thing of note is the TT plugs come with a gap of .039in./1mm, which is smaller than the Toyota gap of .043in./1.1mm. Denso says to not adjust the gap on these Iridium TT plugs so I installed them to see how it goes.

Anyway, I'm posting this here because the typical plugs of 3,4,5,6 that have been coming loose were looser in my engine than 1,2,7,8. I still needed a wrench to loosen them up, but they were noticeably looser than the outside cylinders. I'm sure they were torqued to spec by the PO. I torqued the new plugs to a mix of recommendations between Toyota and Denso. Toyota recommends 13ft/lb and Denso recommends 15-22 ft/lb. I split the difference at 17 ft/lb. 13 always seemed light to me as I've had vehicles with aluminum heads that used a spec of 25 ft/lb so I'm comfortable with 17.
Good documenting Dace.
I went back and looked a The Black Knight thread. I see plugs (NGK) were cleaned and re-torqued to 13LB-lbf at 59K miles with just a touch of anti seizes. Denso states to reduce torque by 20% if thread lubed, as those were.
So I'd say this shows 13lb is just not enough, since they loosened in only 16K miles. I've since gone with dry threads (not lubed) to 15lb-lbf on new plugs (washer not crushed) and 18ft-lbf on used plugs (washer crushed).
I've read a bunch on here about people having issues with the #7 plug removal. I didn't have any trouble with it. If you not only remove the fuel line/vacuum line bracket as @2001LC said, but also remove the bolt that holds the A/C line to the bracket on the firewall, the bolt holding the LH rear engine cover mount and the vacuum line to the VSV(?) mounted on the IM, #7 becomes much more accessible. The A/C line only has to move a little bit to make it easier to remove the coil. Mine didn't want to come out without loosening up the A/C line. I wasn't going to force it either. The other parts removed/loosened give room to swing a wrench from the top of the motor without a swivel if you don't have one. It only take a couple extra minutes to do these extra steps and makes the job easier, IMHO. HTH.
I've not tired that, interesting!
I've just keep using my short extension and universal. Setup protrudes and 1" above spark plug tube. But using a universal is also tricky when torquing. Trick is to keep inline with plug. If it gets off at and angle, it changes torque. Also to much angle and the porcelain of spark plug may break.
This is what I use in tight areas like #7. No universal and Long extension where I have clearance.
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So, I had to go back to 2003 for the kit to show up. Since the coils were the same across the years, it's all good but I wonder why not listed for the later years?
I was thinking, difference in browser. But I've gone back to Denso with google chrome and checked through the years. Found you guys are right. Some years kit just doesn't show. But I like you Dace, believe they're all them same kit 98-07 LC or LX just like Denso show the coil is.

I run into PN # issues all the time. www.partsoug.com is my go to for OEM parts and diagrams. It's was very helpful when I was swapping engine with different models. It's seem one of the most accurate when VIN # used. If you go to partsouq and look for your vehicle without VIN #, you'll be shocked at how many models and configuration their. In fact, it's near impossible to get the exact model without VIN #.
At Genuine Toyota Parts for 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser|Base 4.7L V8 - Gas | Toyota Parts they have very bad diagrams and PN# list. They recommend adding VIN # in order screen. Without it you'll get wrong parts.

I spent a great deal of time build parts list. Then hunting down the parts. The fastest and best for me is my local Toyota parts guy. I've used one guy for about 20 years. It cost a little more than online ordering. But it faster and he's has right part for me 99% of time. If I need to see a part, he'll order just so I can see or take to match or whatever then I can return. Relationship matter!
 
I run into PN # issues all the time. www.partsoug.com is my go to for OEM parts and diagrams. It's was very helpful when I was swapping engine with different models. It's seem one of the most accurate when VIN # used. If you go to partsouq and look for your vehicle without VIN #, you'll be shocked at how many models and configuration their. In fact, it's near impossible to get the exact model without VIN #.
At Genuine Toyota Parts for 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser|Base 4.7L V8 - Gas | Toyota Parts they have very bad diagrams and PN# list. They recommend adding VIN # in order screen. Without it you'll get wrong parts.

Good info. I bought a FPR a while back to have on hand for when I do an injector cleaning. I pulled it out of the box and it looks like it might be the wrong part. Whether I got the wrong number or the wrong part was packaged I don’t know. I just noticed this the other day when I pulled it out of the box. It looks nothing like what I believe to be the FPR on my truck. Maybe I’m looking at the wrong thing on my engine.
 
From what Chuck at FIS has said. A sign FPR needle has rust. MPG will vary, more on summer days.
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Thanks for posting that. Looks like I have the correct part. I was looking at the wrong part on the fuel rail. I thought the black part on rear of the LH fuel rail was the FPR. It looks like many I’ve seen on other engines.
 
DS device that fuel line connects to is the dampening device. @abuck99 has said they're failing. If screw pops up it good as long as quiet.
 
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I just did this the other day and I was shocked to find all 8 loose plus cylinders 3 & 4 showed oil varnish on the spark plug tubes. I even saw a little oil sitting at the bottom of the plugs. I wonder what the best way would be to clean the tubes?
 
I just did this the other day and I was shocked to find all 8 loose plus cylinders 3 & 4 showed oil varnish on the spark plug tubes. I even saw a little oil sitting at the bottom of the plugs. I wonder what the best way would be to clean the tubes?
I use a wire coat-hanger and firmly wrap one end around a small tear-cloth rag. Then swab it like a gun barrel. A cleaner like brake fluid cleaner or carburetor/throttle body cleaner can be applied to the rag if needed.
 
Hello,
I am going to check my plugs, which I installed new NGK four weeks ago.

What's the current consensus on torque?
15 ft-lb when new,
18 ft-lb when washer is already crushed?

Thank you!
 
I did 17 new.
 
@2001LC, thanks for this thread and your details, ( on all your threads) on spark plugs. How does everyone think these plugs look, from experience? Comments please? From what I can tell, no idea when changed in past. 60k to 250k, shows no plug swap. Truck seems to run more peppy with new OEM plugs but never exhibited an issue when driving / on long road trips.

Order of plugs has nothing to do with engine location.

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The P.O. of my LC told me the plugs had been changed but he didn't have the receipt. I pulled one plug to check and the plug was an obviously new Denso. Then I remembered this thread and decided check torque on the other plugs. All plugs required tightening to reach 17.5 N-m torque. I estimate the plugs had been in there no more than 14k miles.

Could the problem be that Toyota's torque setting is too low?
 
The P.O. of my LC told me the plugs had been changed but he didn't have the receipt. I pulled one plug to check and the plug was an obviously new Denso. Then I remembered this thread and decided check torque on the other plugs. All plugs required tightening to reach 17.5 N-m torque. I estimate the plugs had been in there no more than 14k miles.

Could the problem be that Toyota's torque setting is too low?
I think that's the general consensus... Toyota's original torque specification was too low.
 

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