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Figured I would start this to ask some more specific questions related to our build.

Drove home this 2015 two weeks ago. Originally the plan was to get a 100 series with 100k, but once we sat in this certified pre-owned one, we were sold.

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The primary objective of this vehicle is to replace our 4x4 camper van that I had build out over the last 4 years. In those 4 years we have had the best time in the van, but with having a 1 year old and another on the way, we needed more comfort while driving. Going from the legendary 7.3 diesel to the Land Cruiser platform seemed like a natural progression.

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Sold the van this week so now its time to get the cruiser some upgrades with the following in mind:
  • Will be driven around town daily to pickup daughter
  • Most 4x4 travel is out in the desert with camping as the goal. Think Death Valley, Mojave Trail and Anza Borrego are our usual spots. Along with the Eastern Sierras. Also have a trip planned to do the White Rim Trail late May.
  • Want to focus on protection of the family vehicle while also still providing a nice ride in all situations
  • Long term is doing more of the "fins & things" level of trails

First up was wheels and tires, decided to keep it pretty standard and go with the rock warriors, which had 285/70/17 KO's on them from the seller. Also took off the running boards

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Other immediate purchases that I have settled on
  • ARB twin compressor and mount
  • BudBuilt sliders

Once they are ready, will be getting a dissent roof rack and an aluminum front bumper. Possible skid plates and rear depending on where our budget shakes out.

So, all of this to ask what to do for suspension. At first I was settled on the heavy OME springs with the standard lift. But the Slee rep told me this would be terrible when not loaded, which I figured, but want a good ride when its loaded on the trail.

Then I started second guessing the standard OME all together. The price is definitely right, but would going that route be somewhat skimping on what could be considered the most important aspect of the build? Seems like the adjustability of the BP-51 could help tune the system to the immediate load. But you still have the heavy load springs on the rear.

Ofcourse it seems like Tough Dog could be an option as well, especially with their progressive (forget the word or description of them) springs. Not opposed to icon or king either.

Basically just any advice or anecdotal experiences on a pretty light overall build that will be loaded down on trails. Most build items will be aluminum for weight other than the sliders and possibly the skids. I'd say im 50/50 on a winch right now. Had one on the van and never used it, but sure was nice having the security of knowing it was there if needed.
 
That is an interesting transition sub’d
 
It is haha. I guess a main point I forgot was that we are a two car family. So we needed something a little more ok to drive around town. A 20 year old diesel work van is also loud and uncomfortable. Almost looking forward to our first 6 hour drive with cruise control and cooled seats.

Will definitely gain mobility on the trail as well. And will be much more fun when I'm solo on guys trips. Obviously losing a lot of the creature comforts, but that is the give and take.
 
It almost looks like the rack (front runner?) from the van would fit the Land Cruiser. Doesn't appear you kept it though.

You're gaining creature comforts in driving at the expense of camping convenience. Although considering the amount of time spent in the vehicle driving, it's probably worth it.

Grab some floor liners (Husky or Weathertech).
 
Very wise upgrade choices. If your into tough dog, but have questions about springs and things reach out to Jason @TRAIL TAILOR . Super knowledgeable, and he advised and sold to many many happy 200 owners (including myself) with Tough Dog setups. For me I wanted the best I could get without it costing $5k. ToughDog fits the bill, in my opinion much better value for your money than the basic OME suspension. I was able to get a 9 stage adjustable, 45 bore (much fatter than OME), for very little extra $. 1 year later super happy
 
Finally go t the Tough Dog setup installed. I went with the adjustable 45mm setup with the 0-660# load rate TourFlex coils. After talking with the shop (SD Trux), I decided to go with SPC UCA's. I know a lot of people have installed this kit without them, but several people I talked to said that it was a no brainer to upgrade the UCA's at the same time.

So this setup ended up costing between the standard OME and BP-51. We will see how it shakes out over time. Had i known I was going to do the UCA's I might have made a different choice, but again, silly to think too much on it without putting some miles on it.

I will say, it seems to have lifted it more than expected. Surely that will settle after driving it and even more once the sliders, front bumper, rack etc are added.

Makes the 285/70/17 tires look small. SD Trux was worried that a bigger tire would rub the KDSS and even said to keep an eye on it when airing down. Will probably wear out these tires that came with the Rock Warriors before making a change regardless.

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This weekend the ARB dual compressor gets installed as well as some progress on the rear drawers.

Making a custom set of drawers out of the pile of 80/20 i have left over from my campervan build. Should be able to get away with only purchasing the UHMW slides and birch for the top/drawers. Hence why some of the fastener choices may not be what you would pick when building from the ground up.

But the result will be strong and light.

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The goal is to be able to take this in and out quickly. Drawers will be very easily removed and 4 U-bolts will hold it in place with the below brackets. Did not realize this is how the KISS drawers are held in place until I looked into how theirs was done. Happy to see I was on the right track.

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For our sleeping quarters when the whole family comes along, we settled on the RX-5 OzTent. Hesitant about a ground tent, but more hesitant about climbing up a ladder with a small child and 90lb dog.

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The most important part of it all is that we successfully got some permits to do the White Rim Trail late May as well as a night out at Point Sublime on the North Rim. Two destinations that have been on my list for a while and we needed a "purpose" for the build to help drive decisions.
 
I love seeing people buy rigs and waste no time tearing them apart and building them up. Congrats on the new to you 200, it looks like you're well on your way towards an awesome family adventure rig.
 
Got the air compressor in for the most part.

Mounted with the Slee bracket. Pulled the wires thru the extra nipple on the firewall.

Ended up tapping into the green wire on the powered mirror plug for illumination. The light on the switch lights up when the headlights are on. It does not dim however. But this seems like it is due to how the lights are dimmed in the cruiser, so i believe it is setup correctly.

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12 volt is off of the port in the center console

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And of course i ordered the wrong switch size from air on board. So I need to look for the proper size. If anyone has a quick link handy, would greatly appreciate it. I ordered "Push switch 801GR 12volt Toyota OEM Replacement COMPRESSOR GREEN RED " which somehow I cannot locate on their site. Perhaps the 901 series is the correct size, will measure tonight.

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This is the one you seek, it matches the Toyota Blue back lighting exactly. On my 4Runner I pulled the lighting from the wiper defroster switch, it illuminate but doesn't dim either.

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Thanks for the suggestions. Air on board helped direct me towards the correct item in their store. Opted for the all green lights one this time, the red was a little obnoxious.
 
Well my wife wanted something that looked better than my plan for drawers in the back, so this happened.

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Told her I was not opposed if she was ok spending the $$$ on it. We agreed its nice to have something with good fit and finish, and now we will probably leave them in full time unless we have expectations of needing the 3rd row for a weekend of visitors. Installation went about as annoyingly as I had expected due to reading other peoples posts. It wasnt a bad 3-4 hours, just takes time figuring out what those Aussies want you to do.

Also upgraded to a group 31 Odyssey extreme to be the basis of a super simple power system for the fridge. Will put on the battery charger once a month to help mitigate the AGM charging disadvantages. Mulling over a small solar setup to top off the battery.

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Used the slee group 31 upgraded tray. Install went ok. Longer than expected. Started to realise with all of these mods, the solutions aren't perfect, but they give you a 90% head start than starting fresh. All the holes in the tray needed to be enlarged to fit the supplied hardware. And the supplied terminal needed to be ground down to fit the positive terminal.

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Easy things to do compared to negotiating the plastic trim in the wheel well to gain access. Broke a clip and couldn't figure out where a screw was supposed to go when re-assembling, but kept telling myself it would all be taken off in due time once the front bumper goes on.
 
The White Rim road is great. I did it a couple years ago in my 4Runner. Only put it in 4Low a couple times. Probably not really necessary. I was definitely glad to have it for the decent from Murphy's Hogback. Don't forget Toroweap when you're on the North Rim. Amazing.
 
Also upgraded to a group 31 Odyssey extreme to be the basis of a super simple power system for the fridge. Will put on the battery charger once a month to help mitigate the AGM charging disadvantages. Mulling over a small solar setup to top off the battery.

Solar! It'll be the best tender possible. Better yet, it will potentially give you unlimited battery capacity on the trail.

Only need two things:1) 50W panel (~$100) 2) Solar controller ($15-60):

Amazon product ASIN B07D7L8NJC
Amazon product ASIN B075NSQ96Z
 
Finally got the first trip in the cruiser a couple weekends ago. Overall it performed quite literally like nothing I have driven off road before. Very happy with the tough dog suspension. PLayed around with crawl crontrol. Overall had a great weekend out in the desert.

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First time using the OzTent. Was very happy with it and it did great in the wind night 2. First time using a cooler in 4 years. Also the last time, as the new fridge has since arrived.

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The pup loved the new quiet, smooth ride. Before he would sit up in the van to look over the dash. Now he can just relax.

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Overall the van has been re[placed without too much remorse. That however did not keep my brother from reminding me how much room he has to bring whatever he wants. This trip it was an oven for cinnamon rolls and hot water heater.

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Overall it performed quite literally like nothing I have driven off road before.

Curious about this, I am planning on moving to a 200 from my rather built Tacoma (have had a couple beast 7.3's in my past as well). As you had done some decent wheeling in your van, and moving to the 200, could I bother you delve a little deeper into how it felt etc?

Thanks!
 
Overall it was probably from losing 2k pounds haha. The van was heavy, but also a tank. It went over anything I threw at it, but you felt it. Had much more control at speed (~40) going thru sand and burms. I know the 200 is still a large vehicle to be bouncing around off road, but it is small by comparison. My brother had the joy of having to backup 100 yards on the side of a mountain because he couldnt squeeze thru this boulder without potentially sliding into it.

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Instead, I just activated the side cameras and didnt even use a spotter, even though my passenger said i was 3 inches away when we had to pass back thru it on the way down.

Another big difference was just the overall comfort and it being quiet in the cab. Everything tied down well to the ARB drawers, so I could hit bumps at speed and not hear anything. Unlike in the van when you are driving a whole house around with you. Couple that with the loud 7.3, and it was amazing that I could hear my stereo at nice low levels while still maintaining use of the radios.

Overall it is a unique comparison as most dont travel in vans offroad, but I have thouroughly enjoyed it as much as I was hoping to.

Now just need to go do the Mojave Road again to see how differently Watson Wash feels.



Although i think i'll skip this part for now

 
Overall it was probably from losing 2k pounds haha. The van was heavy, but also a tank. It went over anything I threw at it, but you felt it. Had much more control at speed (~40) going thru sand and burms. I know the 200 is still a large vehicle to be bouncing around off road, but it is small by comparison. My brother had the joy of having to backup 100 yards on the side of a mountain because he couldnt squeeze thru this boulder without potentially sliding into it.

Awesome, thanks for the info. Seems like I will also like the switch. We are wanting more comfort , which is what drove us to land on the 200 as the target next build.

The Tacoma is fairly loud as well, plus everything in the bed is strapped to a bedslide so it rattles like all hell even on Kings etc.

I have that same problem of barley hearing comms even though the windows are up, haha.

Watch that water crossing at the end of the Mojave for a bit after this heavy winter, we went through not so long ago and it was WAY deeper than normal and ended up with water coming through the vent in the back of the cab wall (which is about a third up the cab). Stunk to high hell till we got home where I could get the carpet out and clean it!
 

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