The 2H/12H-T/1HZ/1HD-T/1HD-FT Gturbo Alternative Tech Thread (2 Viewers)

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Definitely reducing fuel (heat, drive energy)will do exactly that but you are seeing similar power with both high and low fuel loads which is why I ask about drive pressure . If drive pressure and inlet temps are good and your pump can maintain timing at high rpm 1 afr point makes 30-40 degrees difference to egt's ( nothing drastic)

Knowing that u got the boost increase with more fuel only and no boost controller adjustment but with little power increase points to the turbine choking(high emp, high drive pressure) counter productive to power . Each turbine housing and turbine has its own sweet spot for efficency. usually with a drive pressure ratio below 1.5:1 the closer to 1:1 the better. It's a handy thing to measure and u don't have to guess when u have all the data . And with some fine tuning, the boost controller you have will allow slightly higher drive pressure on spool up (earlier, faster spool) but then allow the the gate to progressive open more to control emp and help make power efficiently .

I'm not knocking what you've done, just trying to confirm if the turbine and wastegate was actually choking or just the turbine with gate closed to much. Initially I though you may have adjusted the boost controller holding the gate shut to much which made it seem like the turbine was choking. I like big power and if I see someone unsure why their adjustment didn't yield the gains expected I'll try to help .

Thing are easier with all the data . Tap your exhaust manifold and measure emp, you might get a shock . It will also help setting and fine tuning your boost controller .

Looking foward to seeing your prototype's results !
Pump is good for timing with plenty of fuel and boost. I'm hearing you loud and clear, I'm planning to tap the mani for a pressure source when I swap the turbos, it was suggested to me by the guy who built the prototype that the gturbo would be running excessively high turbine pressure, and he thought that this would be restricting it's performance, so he wanted me to get a turbine pressure reading for the prototype. Could always swap the gturbo back on later for comparison purposes, but I'll be pretty glad to be rid of it tbh. We mucked around with the gain setting a bit, but didn't really notice massive differences in afrs or response. Wasn't huge adjustments though, only +/- 5%
 
Turbines don't actually choke, technically they run in choke flow and just require more and more drive pressure the more work you want from them.

If a turbine is suddenly spiking in drive pressure, then it's likely because the compressor side load just spiked. Which can happen when the compressor reaches the edge of it's map.
Graeme has stated the sweet spot for this front wheel is 33-35psi
 
Keep in mind that compressors run on pressure ratio and boost is related to that but not exactly the same.

If you've got some intake restriction it'll drop your boost and air-flow capacity significantly.
 
Looks to be one of thebigboy's (xxi) intake, manifold and cooler setups . 4" all the way to turbo

It's a long and windy way from the top of the snorkle!
 
Yep, haven't used an xxi setup but fatz and radius snorkel and airbox are pretty good . Not a fan of the over the roof reverse snorkel but they do work
Getting a bit off topic now though .
 
Looks to be one of thebigboy's (xxi) intake, manifold and cooler setups . 4" all the way to turbo
yeah it's 4" intake to turbo and 4" dump to transfer, reduces at transfer to 3". Snorkel came with the car, original setup including snorkel was built by AM Auto (turbo yoda & dose vader from MCM) so there's a bit of knowledge gone into it lol. In saying that, I replaced their enlarged plenum almost straight away with the xxi cooler/plenum and noticed a considerable increase in throttle response
 
Howed u go with the pro charge
All bolted up, but found my PS wheel bearing had decided to leave this life and take the cv and stub axle with it, so doing a bit of an axle rebuild. Parts should be here by the end of the week to put it back together, good boxing day job!
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Sounds juicey! do tell! :rofl:
haha we'd need a new thread for that, no, look, we had a big argument and a lot of nastiness was spread, I don't want to go back there, but I'll never buy another turbo from him, on the other hand, he wouldn't sell me one either, so it's mutual dislike all round
 
haha we'd need a new thread for that, no, look, we had a big argument and a lot of nastiness was spread, I don't want to go back there, but I'll never buy another turbo from him, on the other hand, he wouldn't sell me one either, so it's mutual dislike all round

No Christmas cards for you pair then! ;)


s*** happens hey.
 
Do GTurbos still run paddle wheel turbines? This suggests they do.
Yeah it's 12 blade or something like that. Pretty sure it's TD05
 
Do GTurbos still run paddle wheel turbines? This suggests they do.

Hi back pressure can be caused from a few reasons. Turbine wheel size and design, turbine housing A/R undersized for flow requirements , wastegate too small or no adjusted correctly . There are other non turbo related factors as well, Dougal has mentioned some commonly overlooked key factors earlier.
 
They are 100% a td05h turbine

What is that custom turbo you are running using? Are you running a CT2* CHRA?
 

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