Pretty simple, it just replaces the multi-solenoid system used on the 8274. IIRC the new 8274's come with this upgrade.
Wiring an 8274 + Albright
Talk me into or out of an m8274 winch
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Sounds good was gonna text ya but figured your phone could not get a text!
That's a whole nuther rabbit hole.
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No concerns, it just works.
Once you have had a highmount Warn you cant go back.
Once you have had a highmount Warn you cant go back.
Did slee make a front bumper for the 8274 or are they modified.
I don't have a winch and don't plan on getting one either.
^^^^ hah
Great for conditions where you should be able to just walk the vehicle out anyway, but bury that thing up the frame and try it, or strap that board on the tire when you are facing a 60% grade of slick-rock.
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I modified the bumper to suit.
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In 4 Wheeler's Bible the author used some tension measuring stuff on lots of recoveries and said he rarely saw more than 3K pounds (I think). My buddy is borrowing the book but the basic premise I think wasn't so much about the raw capacity as it was the combination of capacity and duty cycling. That a 12K winch isn't going to get as hot as a 8K winch on a 3K load. Either can handle it.
If anyone has some data to back that up or disagree with it I'd be interested to hear it.
We use warn winches at the power company for sagging conductor ( bringing wire up to tension before catching it off in a hoist ). It always surprises me how much a winch will bogg down with so little tension. We were bringing 1/0 aluminum wire up to 600 lbs and the warn 9.5 winch we were using was bogged down pretty good. It would have thought it had 3000 lbs on it.
We use warn winches at the power company for sagging conductor ( bringing wire up to tension before catching it off in a hoist ). It always surprises me how much a winch will bogg down with so little tension. We were bringing 1/0 aluminum wire up to 600 lbs and the warn 9.5 winch we were using was bogged down pretty good. It would have thought it had 3000 lbs on it.
We use warn winches at the power company for sagging conductor ( bringing wire up to tension before catching it off in a hoist ). It always surprises me how much a winch will bogg down with so little tension. We were bringing 1/0 aluminum wire up to 600 lbs and the warn 9.5 winch we were using was bogged down pretty good. It would have thought it had 3000 lbs on it.
Wow I really fat finger that. Anyways I ordered a 4x4 labs front bumper and met with the powder coater. He seems pretty stoked to do some custom colors on the 8274.
Too much coffee?
Or not enough.
So.....I'm reading that to say that the average 'pull' required of most recoveries was 3,000 lbs. (?)
And the premise being a higher rated winch will strain less and not get as hot as a lesser rated (Max) winch?
Problem with that logic...is it doesn't take into account line speed or amp draw. Some winch designs are simply more efficient than others.
But...lets just go with what has been presented. A cursory look at the specs of the Warn 8274-50 (8k winch) vs. a Warn M12000 (12k winch) would seem a fair comparison.
Instead of using the 3,000 lb. figure (from the 4 Wheeler's Bible) let just up the ante and go with 4K (since both winches have specs for that).
The 8274 @ 4,000 lbs. of pull (on the 3rd layer) uses 286 amps (motor current) and has a line speed of 16.4 Ft/Min.
The M12000 @ 4K lbs. of pull (on the 3rd layer) uses 210 amps (motor current) and has a line speed of 8.6 Ft/Min.
So...the 8274 requires 76 amps more (motor current)....BUT pulls the same load (approx. 8.5 ft.) in HALF THE TIME!
Now, we could argue for the next week all the nuances of winching and the variables involved. Where the M12000 shines and where the 8274 is more useful. Each person must take an honest look at their needs and choose accordingly.
The 8274 is NOT the perfect winch of every situation, but its a damn fine winch for MOST situations.
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Another thing to think of when doing those 'which winch is good enough' - is looking at the rating by what wrap on the drum you're in.
Part of why I always do a simple compound pull is all I add is a pulley, but I get twice the rope off the drum.
Since winches are about getting going over 'how fast am I going', me cutting my linespeed in 1/2 is a thought I never bother with.
I suppose I'm using 1/2 the amps, but I'm on the amps for 2x longer - I'm not a battery guy but to me either what I'm doing is a wash, or slightly easier on my single battery/hand throttle setup. IDK, have zero facts to back that.
Frankly linespeed is a factor only if you're a Pro3/4 or KOH guy, and even then those guys you see leave 15-20' of line wrapped on the bumper to save time -- to me for our crowd linespeed is a non-factor.
Part of why I always do a simple compound pull is all I add is a pulley, but I get twice the rope off the drum.
Since winches are about getting going over 'how fast am I going', me cutting my linespeed in 1/2 is a thought I never bother with.
I suppose I'm using 1/2 the amps, but I'm on the amps for 2x longer - I'm not a battery guy but to me either what I'm doing is a wash, or slightly easier on my single battery/hand throttle setup. IDK, have zero facts to back that.
Frankly linespeed is a factor only if you're a Pro3/4 or KOH guy, and even then those guys you see leave 15-20' of line wrapped on the bumper to save time -- to me for our crowd linespeed is a non-factor.
That's probably true, but I know folks who have snapped 20k lb rated static straps while winching, so it just depends on the recovery situation.
