Springtailsolutions.com "backpack" hook *FEELER* (1 Viewer)

[jonheld]

Hydrate hands-free while you drive- perfect! Email has been sent asking about an alternative material choice, i.e. ABS, T6061, etc..... Thanks Jon!

Camelbak idea came from Scott Simmons after seeing one hanging from the headrest of his 40 buggy. I thought it was brilliant. I hang them with the straps around the headrest posts, but they're a small PITA to install when full.
I always travel with 2 in the truck.

 

[rhyary]

I am in for two
Rami

 

[hindsight]

I just popped in to say hello and join the fun!

To keep you guys up to date, I have secured a 1991 FJ80 to use for fitting the prototypes. I do need to know if the seats and the headrests are similar across the span of the FJ 80s production...if anyone knows, it would be extremely helpful.

Fire away with any questions that you may have and I will do my best to answer them.

If you like the idea of this product in your FJ80, make sure to thank Vango for his dedication to getting me to work on this.

I would anticipate that it will take about 4-5 weeks to get a functional prototype for the FJ80...after that things will move pretty quickly (2-3 weeks for units to ship).

Thanks for your interest in the back pack hooks, maybe we will find some other fun projects along the way

Doc

 

[djsolution]

Good idea! I have the same Camelbak BFM in black. Love that pack.

 

[80ways]

Please put me down for 2. Great idea. Thanks.

 

[azTony]

I would take two if he gives a group buy price. Like it was mentioned he has had the 3 for price of 2 and the number is growing. I was looking at these the other day thinking they would be nice for an 80 and made of a plastic.

 

[SFSig]

I would take two if he gives a group buy price. Like it was mentioned he has had the 3 for price of 2 and the number is growing. I was looking at these the other day thinking they would be nice for an 80 and made of a plastic.

I too would be interested if they came in plastic. I have passengers in the 2nd row a lot and I wouldn't feel comfortable with the possibility that they'd come in contact with the hooks. Anyone who's driven in San Francisco knows that slamming the the breaks is part of the morning commute...

 

[BrotherRob]

Camelbak idea came from Scott Simmons after seeing one hanging from the headrest of his 40 buggy. I thought it was brilliant. I hang them with the straps around the headrest posts, but they're a small PITA to install when full.
I always travel with 2 in the truck.

I've done this for years with a 3L Camelback Unbottle. The hook won't work for me, the way I drive, it would be on the floor in no time.:whoops:

 

[azTony]

The metal I have no problem with, it is the price tag for the metal

 

[VanGo]

The metal I have no problem with, it is the price tag for the metal

Tony-

This has potential sig line material all over it, as it equally describes my relationship with the 80 .

 

[yamapro]

I will take 2

 

[hindsight]

Let me address a few comments here...

1) For those concerned about passenger contact...

Please read the warning label

If you are planning to have passengers to the rear of the mount...Just don't buy it.

From the website:

Any product can be misused and thus present a danger to its user. Please read our guidelines to using this product safely.


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This product is designed for military usage and for off road competition. Please use the product responsibly.


Please do not hang items on the mounts that will limit rearward vision.


The MPAC Back Pack hook is designed for light cargo only, please check with your vehicle manufacturer to determine the weight limits that can be applied to your seat safely.



This product is not meant to restrain cargo. It is Springtails opinion that all heavy/dangerous cargo should be confined to the vehicles cargo area. Furthermore all cargo should be restrained in an adequate fashion to prevent any potential movement into the passenger compartment.


At no time should this product be used with a passenger positioned to the rear of the back pack hook. In the event of an accident or unexpected maneuver, a passenger could be seriously injured or killed. The product should be removed if there is any need to place a passenger behind the mounting area. In addition, care should be taken when accessing the area to the rear of the mount.


Springtail supports the use of safety belts and the practice of safe driving techniques.


Too much weight on an unoccupied seat may set off chimes and activate airbag sensors. Take care not to use straps that may impede with side airbags or restraint systems. Please use the product in a responsible fashion.


By installing this Springtail product you are acknowledging that there are potential risks from misuse. If you do not accept these conditions, please return unused product to Springtail for a prompt refund.


In addition: If you place the mount in your mouth, it can also serve as a choking hazard



2) Making the Mounts in Plastic...

a) Besides being extremely inferior to steel in this application...the cost of plastic molds are astronomical. It makes sense to make plastic molds when you are planning on selling thousands of copies. Since Springtails focus is on very specific niches...we can make quality products for very specific purposes. That is why our products fit and function very well.

btw: Plastic will mess up your face just as easily as metal....quick reference back to the warning label.

3) "The way I drive, the bag would be on the floor in no time"

I am not exactly sure how you drive ...the hook concept was developed with the intent of living up to the rigors of the military and off road competition. The whole concept was devised at the request of some Military operators in the middle east.

If you can shake something off of the hook with your driving...you may consider using the carabiner option with the mount or a bungie under the seat
I have spent a few months with prototypes in both my FJC and my GMC Sierra. Both vehicles are used around the farm and see pretty rough territory...nothing has hit the floor yet.

4) Cost

The cost is based on the expense of making the unit (this includes laser cutting, forming, powder coating etc). So far all of the back pack hooks have had about the same production cost.
We use local resources to manufacture our metal goods so while the cost is a bit more...we can assure that the quality control is outstanding and the supply is appropriate for the demand.

We are not out to scalp anybody...but in the same respect, we are not in business to lose money either.

I would anticipate a similar combo deal for the FJ80 crowd as we did for the FJ Cruisers. Give or take: $20 each or 4 units for the price of 3 (~ $60.00)


Doc

 

[El Mac]

Steel is fine and preferable. Your price if fine.

Crank 'em out!

 

[wearsabrowncoat]

Concur with El Mac.

 

[Cruisercouple]

Im in for 2

 

[VanGo]

Current head count.

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24 Feb:

VanGo- 2
Trapper50cal- 2
FZJDoc- 2
dukface- 2
Wearsabrowncoat- 4
Vasir- 2
80seriesnut- 2
80BajaBound- 2
El Mac- 2
Flank- 1
jonheld- 2
94SRUNNER- 1
rhyary- 2
80ways-2

Total 28 Qty.

25 Feb:

yamapro- 2
Cruisercouple- 2

Running Total 32 Qty.

Numerous guys are on the periphery with orders greater than 2.

 

[VanGo]

....The whole concept was devised at the request of some Military operators in the middle east.

....We use local resources to manufacture our metal goods so while the cost is a bit more...we can assure that the quality control is outstanding and the supply is appropriate for the demand.

I like this....

 

[SFSig]

@hindsight Thanks for the explanations for why you produce these they way you do... It's probably true that plastic would be just as harmful as metal, but in my crazy mind, I can justify plastic whereas metal seems to set off alarms. I just want to voice my opinion in the hopes that maybe if you saw there was enough demand for plastic versions you'd think about making them.

It's a great design though and I'm jealous of those that are getting one...

On a separate topic, when are you going to build those kick-ass cargo barriers for 80's?

 

[Trapper50cal]

I think what I will end up doing is mounting these to the back seats, and fold the seatback forward from the 2nd row door and use the position as a "table" to place the pack on, hook it then return the seat to the upright position. I am a little weary of having a medium to large amount of weight (I know they say for small weight loads but lets be honest, backpacks especially with water, can get heavy quick) attached to the back of a seat with a passenger in it.

But one thing did cross my mind....

How many times does your wife have to put her huge purse at her feet as a passenger?

 

[Flank]

FWIW, there were several intents and applications discussed in the Vendor forum thread. My interest is that being an outside salesman, I would like to hang my jacket on a hanger their - this idea was part of the reason for splitting the hanging arm into two sides, instead of a single wide piece. Well thought out, and he took into account peoples feedback.

Oh, and his site and storage solutions are pretty Sic!