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So Kevin, about those windows...
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kevinmrowland
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No beer, just pretzels.
I've seen the work that comes off benches with beer on them, it's not up to my standards.
I've seen the work that comes off benches with beer on them, it's not up to my standards.
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No beer, just pretzels.
I've seen the work that comes off benches with beer on them, it's not up to my standards.
LOL fair enough. Remind me to never let you see my welds
kevinmrowland
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Flip up window...............with the OE glass.
It works, just waiting on a few last pieces of hardware and this set will be in our truck to be tested on the cross-country move.
It works, just waiting on a few last pieces of hardware and this set will be in our truck to be tested on the cross-country move.
treerootCO
Where are my keys?!
I like it! 
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Looks fantastic! Can't wait to get a set. I might even postpone getting the new tires in favor of this
kevinmrowland
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Somebody got a post in ahead of you spook!
You're slipping.
But thanks guys, I'm thrilled to have the OE glass in there, looks so much better than the flat stuff, and forms to the gasket perfectly.
There are a bunch of the tiny little details to sort out still, then I will have a full set of metal parts cut, powder coated and I'll get them together in the truck.
The still photos don't do it justice, once it's all together I'll make a video and post that to show how it all works.
I keep popping the latches for the fun of it since it acts just like a "real" flip up window now.
You're slipping.
But thanks guys, I'm thrilled to have the OE glass in there, looks so much better than the flat stuff, and forms to the gasket perfectly.
There are a bunch of the tiny little details to sort out still, then I will have a full set of metal parts cut, powder coated and I'll get them together in the truck.
The still photos don't do it justice, once it's all together I'll make a video and post that to show how it all works.
I keep popping the latches for the fun of it since it acts just like a "real" flip up window now.
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Somebody got a post in ahead of you spook!
You're slipping.
But thanks guys, I'm thrilled to have the OE glass in there, looks so much better than the flat stuff, and forms to the gasket perfectly.
There are a bunch of the tiny little details to sort out still, then I will have a full set of metal parts cut, powder coated and I'll get them together in the truck.
The still photos don't do it justice, once it's all together I'll make a video and post that to show how it all works.
I keep popping the latches for the fun of it since it acts just like a "real" flip up window now.
LOL I couldn't get the pics to load on my Droid while I was at work!
Man am I glad I saved my OE glass now (and didn't pull off the Arrogant Bastard gargoyle decal I had made years ago
).
That's a great mod. So the install involves removing your factory glass, installing it in the new frame and bolting everything up?
kevinmrowland
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Basically.
The installation is actually quite simple, but it requires being careful and paying attention. It's probably only a
job as far as technicality is concerned, but I would give it a rating considering the attention to detail needed.The OE glass is removed and set aside.
The frame is bolted in place, it sandwiches the pinch weld.
Components are added, latch is installed, etc.
Then the glass is set in place, lined up visually, double and triple checked and the hinge plates are folded down onto the surface, once the adhesive contacts the glass, that's it, no re-adjusting.
The hinges come first and they have some adjustment in them, then the latch catches and the shock plate are installed the same way and it's basically set, not hard, but each step is important.
I'll obviously take lots of photos to chronicle the install once parts are set.
KR
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I take it that's pretty strong, apocalypse proof adhesive?
kevinmrowland
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Thanks Alfred,
It's tough, but other than the shop we don't have much stuff and we are excited about it, so should be fun.
Will be cutting through some of your favorite country down in WY on the way out!
KR
It's tough, but other than the shop we don't have much stuff and we are excited about it, so should be fun.
Will be cutting through some of your favorite country down in WY on the way out!
KR
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The wife and I just finished moving and as soon as I'm back from this TDY in a couple weeks I'll be setting up my new shop. Between a slant six (with head), full width Dana 60, my work bench, a welding table, and an H55 with the tcase bolted to it, moving my shop stuff was a bear of a job. But now I'll have a nice dry, clean place to finally catch up on some work on my truck. Now to just stay on top of not storing every damn thing I have on my work bench!
WY is a great place. I hope to move back there soon.
kevinmrowland
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Hey Al,
The price is still unknown, most of the hardware is still up in the air, don't know what I'm going to be able to bring them in at and I still need to build one straight through to see how long that takes and add up the laser parts, and.....
I see no problem doing one side at a time though, I do that with the side panels occasionally as well.
KR
The price is still unknown, most of the hardware is still up in the air, don't know what I'm going to be able to bring them in at and I still need to build one straight through to see how long that takes and add up the laser parts, and.....
I see no problem doing one side at a time though, I do that with the side panels occasionally as well.
KR
kevinmrowland
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Sunday was eaten up getting one side in the truck, it's only the one side and the hardware is still an issue, but my parts are working as they should and the whole thing works.
Looks so much better than the last version.
Just need to get all the right hardware parts and we will be good to go.
Really wanted to get both sides in for a more comprehensive test but it looks it will just be the one side for the cross-country drive.
Enough words, photos:
This is the collection of parts I've had to design and fab up.
Here they are back from the powder coater with the shiny bits bolted on.
Here are the frames for one side, they are sandwich plates, the gasketed one goes on the outside, one gasket seals against the body, the other seals the glass.
It's not all rose petals and posies bolting it in, there is some force required, and a clamp is a necessity.
It's a pretty simple system, basically sandwich plates and then there are two places where the bolts are much longer, these standoffs go on and provide a place for the latches to mount. This will let me keep the hardware package the same for multiple frame styles as I move into other series of trucks.
This is the hinge base plate, there is some built in adjustment with how these mount for fine tuning. This is also the only part that does not have a mechanical seal, requires a bit of sealant on the back side where it meats the frame.
These are the outer hinge plates with the VHB tape applied, this is how they will come from me.
Basically you set them like this, test fit the glass a few times, double and triple check that it is centered in the opening nicely and then peel off the film and flip the hinges down.
Once the adhesive contacts the glass, it is stuck, no second chances.
It's really not too bad of an install but I am going to have to make a video to show all the steps...... and you're going to have to take notes since there are a lot of them.
Looks so much better than the last version.
Just need to get all the right hardware parts and we will be good to go.
Really wanted to get both sides in for a more comprehensive test but it looks it will just be the one side for the cross-country drive.
Enough words, photos:
This is the collection of parts I've had to design and fab up.
Here they are back from the powder coater with the shiny bits bolted on.
Here are the frames for one side, they are sandwich plates, the gasketed one goes on the outside, one gasket seals against the body, the other seals the glass.
It's not all rose petals and posies bolting it in, there is some force required, and a clamp is a necessity.
It's a pretty simple system, basically sandwich plates and then there are two places where the bolts are much longer, these standoffs go on and provide a place for the latches to mount. This will let me keep the hardware package the same for multiple frame styles as I move into other series of trucks.
This is the hinge base plate, there is some built in adjustment with how these mount for fine tuning. This is also the only part that does not have a mechanical seal, requires a bit of sealant on the back side where it meats the frame.
These are the outer hinge plates with the VHB tape applied, this is how they will come from me.
Basically you set them like this, test fit the glass a few times, double and triple check that it is centered in the opening nicely and then peel off the film and flip the hinges down.
Once the adhesive contacts the glass, it is stuck, no second chances.
It's really not too bad of an install but I am going to have to make a video to show all the steps...... and you're going to have to take notes since there are a lot of them.
kevinmrowland
Forum Lifer
Once you flip the hinges down you pretty much have this:
OE glass back where it's supposed to be! Just able to flip open this time.
The actuator is up in there air a bit, this is a prototype but it's proving hard to get moving on so I am pursuing a more basic (simple is good) option.
This one is neat since it operates exactly the same way as the lift gate lock on the 60s does.
Push the button and the window goes "pop".
There are a bunch of other steps but they are subject to change before the final so I wont show them here. The cables that make this all work are up in the air as well, I cobbled together a setup out of bike parts, it doesn't work great, but it works enough to test all the parts.
It's not a 100% bolt-in application, there are two little holes that have to be drilled to run the cables. (I'll try to get over it)
You can see some of my cobbled together bike parts here as well, should look a bit cleaner with the right cable.
And thar-she-be.
A whole lot of work to get something to look clean and simple.
OE glass back where it's supposed to be! Just able to flip open this time.
The actuator is up in there air a bit, this is a prototype but it's proving hard to get moving on so I am pursuing a more basic (simple is good) option.
This one is neat since it operates exactly the same way as the lift gate lock on the 60s does.
Push the button and the window goes "pop".
There are a bunch of other steps but they are subject to change before the final so I wont show them here. The cables that make this all work are up in the air as well, I cobbled together a setup out of bike parts, it doesn't work great, but it works enough to test all the parts.
It's not a 100% bolt-in application, there are two little holes that have to be drilled to run the cables. (I'll try to get over it
)You can see some of my cobbled together bike parts here as well, should look a bit cleaner with the right cable.
And thar-she-be.
A whole lot of work to get something to look clean and simple.
