Throw that sucker in the garbage....they are nothing but trouble.....however how can you sell that rig to doc?
So I'm replacing the rear shocks on my FJ62 and found something.
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Not worth the trouble. As stated above esp when lifted trucks with them have mush brakes. Wish I just had a proportioning valve on mine.
I heard of people adjusting them on mini trucks, by adjusting the tie end height to simulate load, to tweak the rear breaking....
Don't know if its that big of a deal. But if it improves your breaking while under load (beagle chariot) I don't see why it would not be worth the effort.
Don't know if its that big of a deal. But if it improves your breaking while under load (beagle chariot) I don't see why it would not be worth the effort.
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Now... that's what I call hardcore shock replacement!!!!
Excellent post! There is a lot about my 62 that I am not aware of and this forum is a daily learning experience! I have hauled some heavy loads of wood and wondered if there was some mechanism to compensate for the load since I didn't need to press the brakes any harder than normal. Now I know...
...and the 62 continues to prove its supremecy over the 60.
LMAO you are kidding right!
Throw that sucker in the garbage....they are nothing but trouble.....however how can you sell that rig to doc?
Amen times 20!
Iceman25th
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One thing that I have learned since I have an 87 /60 and a 90/ 62 parked side by side. If I am running late and it is cold, do not try to take the 60. It takes way too long to burn the incense and sacrifice the goat to the cruiser gods to get it started. Jump in the 62, hit the key and it is out the driveway. Sometimes, character is overestimated.
One thing that I have learned since I have an 87 /60 and a 90/ 62 parked side by side. If I am running late and it is cold, do not try to take the 60. It takes way too long to burn the incense and sacrifice the goat to the cruiser gods to get it started. Jump in the 62, hit the key and it is out the driveway. Sometimes, character is overestimated.
Iceman25th, I say yer 60 just needs some repair work. If it's working right all it takes is pull the choke, press gas to the floor twice and turn the key. Slide the choke in as it warms up as you drive... But yes the EFI in the 62 is nice!
Nick
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Iceman25th
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Yea,
it works that way if it has been down for a day or two but much more than that, no joy. I pretty much stay on top of maintenance so it is far from neglected. It has been something that I have learned to live with reluctantly.
it works that way if it has been down for a day or two but much more than that, no joy. I pretty much stay on top of maintenance so it is far from neglected. It has been something that I have learned to live with reluctantly.
I'm with IndianDoc!!! My 60 starts with 2 cranks in any weather unless I haven't been driving it for about a month.
Round eyes are better anyway
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...and the 62 continues to prove its supremecy over the 60.
you mean the 62 continues to prove it has more crap to brake than a 60
This is sort of right. It's really a lack-of-load sensing proportioning valve. In a sudden stop situation, the weight of the vehicle shifts to the front an the back lifts. The lspv detects that and decreases pressure to the rear brakes to avoid rear wheel lockup and loss of traction. When you put a lift on your vehicle, the lspv goes out of adjustment and decreases pressure under normal conditions. You need to put a spacer on lifted vehicles to maintain the proper distance between the tub and the rear axle. When you do that your brakes won't be mushy anymore.
Bill
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Funny thing about brake proportioning valves: You only need them when you REALLY need them, like full panic stops loaded, or with a trailer.
My opinion is that if it's set up correctly, it adds an amazing margin of safety right when you need it. And you have all the bits, so the extra safety is free.
Cheers,
Rick
My opinion is that if it's set up correctly, it adds an amazing margin of safety right when you need it. And you have all the bits, so the extra safety is free.
Cheers,
Rick
Two pages of posts, and no one tells the guy it's possible to change the shocks from beneath the truck?
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All of this is true and correct.
However IME with an '84 Toyota Mini 4WD with just a 3" lift on 33-10.50's (lighter in the rear than a 60) it is no longer possible to get the valve to do what it is designed to do unless completely unladen and adjusted to maximize rear brake pressure. Said differently; mine is "adjusted" for max rear brake pressure full time. The only time that I've ever locked up the rear tires in a panic type stop was when I had absolutely nothing in the bed. Even then it was barely possible and very controllable with pedal force modulation.
Consider that I live on the Lower Left Coast. Somewhere else that sees regular ice on the roads *might* justify adding this item, but it is not ABS and I doubt the utility of the considerable work need for the install (note that there is a front brake system tube run all the way back to it) without a demostrated need for such a device.
I'm not arguing that LSPVs should be retrofitted to vehicles that don't have them, and D'Animal already has one. Just trying to clarify the purpose of a seemingly somewhat misunderstood safety device, and why it leads FJ62 people to having weak brakes (common complaint).
Bill
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Copy that!!
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