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the cap, top, sides, glass, doors and gaskets.
So I walked into a burning building today...
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and for the other question, no not a frame off anything. Before the fire I was going to sand the rust and paint it my self. Now that the ENTIRE PAINT JOB has turned into a 911 emergency I will take the parts off but keep the tub intact and sand blast it.
cool, in the end it's worth it.
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I got it and im very happy. The color is black, it looks like the gell coat has a few chips. Im not entirely sure what the finish and color is. My old top was PERFECT gell coat, paint then clear coat. This one is a lava looking baked black.
I took a chip off and it looks like its the old gel coat under the nasty black stuff?
Either way its a great candidate for I HOPE TO GOD simple sanding, repair and paint.
I do not want a $15,000 FJ40 I want a home slice rig for week ends.
I do not want to get a new gell coat and have it look like a million bucks (like my old top was ahah!!!)
Do you think light sand or is that black goop black house paint?
Does it look by the way the inside of the fiberglass has black over spray that it was some kind of weird spray paint? Why is the gutters also painted?
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I took a chip off and it looks like its the old gel coat under the nasty black stuff?
Either way its a great candidate for I HOPE TO GOD simple sanding, repair and paint.
I do not want a $15,000 FJ40 I want a home slice rig for week ends.
I do not want to get a new gell coat and have it look like a million bucks (like my old top was ahah!!!)
Do you think light sand or is that black goop black house paint?
Does it look by the way the inside of the fiberglass has black over spray that it was some kind of weird spray paint? Why is the gutters also painted?
What is it?View attachment 1204160
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failed paint on fiberglass is one of those "a whole bunch of sanding" is coming your direction.... *shiver* makes me itch here
on fiberglass, if you're lucky and they used a hard paint (like enamel), you can literally scrape it off with a razor blade
on fiberglass, if you're lucky and they used a hard paint (like enamel), you can literally scrape it off with a razor blade
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Its black on one side, kind of white on the other.
can any one give me a heads up on whats going on below the black stuff?
What do I do next? Peel the black stuff off and send to Fox Mulder and Dana Scully for further diagnosis?
Help its my only reason to live right now.
can any one give me a heads up on whats going on below the black stuff?
What do I do next? Peel the black stuff off and send to Fox Mulder and Dana Scully for further diagnosis?
Help its my only reason to live right now.
most likely someone painted the roof black the white is the gel coat.
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Ok, im headed out to get blades, wish me luck.
Any reason you couldn't sand (somewhat carelessly) then add a top gel coat layer? It's pretty easy stuff to lay.... fiberglass shops will have it, then you just need a compressor and a siphon feed spray gun with a larger nozzle... it's pretty forgiving to spray...
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yeah we have all that stuff and I have a car sized car port room with those 1000 watt lights and a MASSIVE suction fan, compressor and sanding machine with a HUGE 220V shop vacuum. We have a compressor and paint guns.
From what your suggesting gell coat will just run off and pretty much even out?
(We paint, but very badly~)
From what your suggesting gell coat will just run off and pretty much even out?
(We paint, but very badly~)
coating over badly-laid paint doesn't make either stick better... you have to have a good surface first.
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yeah im sanding and removing the poop first,
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So 60 grit and sand it down? The blade dug into the gell coat so I quit.
I just talked to a friend who is stripping a C3 Corvette and his suggestion was aircraft stripper; I've not done it this way but I will try it with my cap.... but again, I've not done it yet so I cannot comment on how effective that will be. As for the scrapper method, use it to get the big, easy stuff then get progressively more aggressive with what's left.
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I got a heat gun also
heat helps a lot.
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So I got my truck back last night, he did next to nothing. did not even wash the soot off.
I said:
"Even with my expert skills on the internet and driving 12 hours for the parts its $1500 in damage at minimum"
Not including paint that I was going to just totally forgive and get sand blasted my own dime.
He said this:
"ok, then I charge you $1500 for installing your gas tank and fuel lines, we are even you go now"
Printing out everything, going to small claims.
He is about as broke as they come with a dying wife in the house but it was at least a certified mechanic, retired, no insurance no nothing.
i told him even though I risked my ass and walked DIRECTLY into the flames with a garden hose while my car burnt?
So he tossed in a head gasket job and I drove away mad because I think he owes me at LEAST another $1000 in work if you count $200 for installing a tank (I had the vehicle interior totally removed)
And all along I acted like a saint, forgive and allow him to give me an IOU.
Photo of all my parts, not installed. Ok the gas tank sure but nothing more, not the oil, not the antifreeze
I said:
"Even with my expert skills on the internet and driving 12 hours for the parts its $1500 in damage at minimum"
Not including paint that I was going to just totally forgive and get sand blasted my own dime.
He said this:
"ok, then I charge you $1500 for installing your gas tank and fuel lines, we are even you go now"
Printing out everything, going to small claims.
He is about as broke as they come with a dying wife in the house but it was at least a certified mechanic, retired, no insurance no nothing.
i told him even though I risked my ass and walked DIRECTLY into the flames with a garden hose while my car burnt?
So he tossed in a head gasket job and I drove away mad because I think he owes me at LEAST another $1000 in work if you count $200 for installing a tank (I had the vehicle interior totally removed)
And all along I acted like a saint, forgive and allow him to give me an IOU.
Photo of all my parts, not installed. Ok the gas tank sure but nothing more, not the oil, not the antifreeze
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yeah, there is a hell of a lot more than 1500 dollars worth of damage.
I used to work for a contractor-did a lot of concrete for him over the years...last year he just acted weird and didn't paid me.(about 3500,-)...always made excuses...So I suied him at small claim court and they told me I can"t sue him because he fail for bancruptcy.That's all they told me...I walked in the lawyers offices near an nobody wanted to tell me nothing($$$).Just clerk lady at one office told me to wait 5 years after the bctcy is settled and renew the suit...One more year now....He let me do the job for him after he failed bctcy and knew he ca'nt pay but I should get my money back...Some people look like they don't have money but they have...Sometimes is just better to walk away.....But it is not easy...
Most people have good intentions, those ones make it right eventually.
You said something that you need beware of, drnek, if he was granted bankruptcy you can never go against him - ever. You can't even mention it to him for fear that you will commit a crime. He can, if he wishes, pay you back - but it must be at his volition, and even then... most clients I suggest they send the money back because all it takes is for that person to dislike you for any reason and say "oh, but he demanded..." best case, in that case, is you have several thousand in attorney's fees; middle case is he goes to bankruptcy court and gets your debt listed, and you have to pay his attorney's fees to do so; worst case, you go to jail and owe him money for violation of bankruptcy statutes. It's funny, I was listening to a CLE (continued legal education) and the presenter made some comment about how she got around a bankruptcy prohibition on an unlisted debt. The problem she didn't mention and is lucky the opposing counsel was asleep was that her debt was known and she did not have a good-faith argument to pursue the debt collection - which, while her client wouldn't be terribly inconvenienced, could have landed her with a bar complaint for bring a claim without basis to needlessly harass or extort money not owed.
I think, though, this is a bit different - trying to charge after you damaged someone's vehicle is well-beyond a bit much. The time to bring off-setting claims is in Court; not while negotiating with an aggrieved customer.
You said something that you need beware of, drnek, if he was granted bankruptcy you can never go against him - ever. You can't even mention it to him for fear that you will commit a crime. He can, if he wishes, pay you back - but it must be at his volition, and even then... most clients I suggest they send the money back because all it takes is for that person to dislike you for any reason and say "oh, but he demanded..." best case, in that case, is you have several thousand in attorney's fees; middle case is he goes to bankruptcy court and gets your debt listed, and you have to pay his attorney's fees to do so; worst case, you go to jail and owe him money for violation of bankruptcy statutes. It's funny, I was listening to a CLE (continued legal education) and the presenter made some comment about how she got around a bankruptcy prohibition on an unlisted debt. The problem she didn't mention and is lucky the opposing counsel was asleep was that her debt was known and she did not have a good-faith argument to pursue the debt collection - which, while her client wouldn't be terribly inconvenienced, could have landed her with a bar complaint for bring a claim without basis to needlessly harass or extort money not owed.
I think, though, this is a bit different - trying to charge after you damaged someone's vehicle is well-beyond a bit much. The time to bring off-setting claims is in Court; not while negotiating with an aggrieved customer.
