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LFD2037 said:
How hard was it to take the fender off? I'd think this way would be much better and I could finally remove my useless electric antennae.
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Blade 80LC said:
It also helped to have an assortment of arm sizes available. If you don't pull the fender off, going through the access holes may require your arm to bend some place there besides your elbow. My brother's arms are longer. We also borrowed my sister in law's petite arms/hands to reach the stud above the air pass-through.

Removing(and replacing) the fender was the slower method of our two snorkel installs, but also less frustrating. At least for someone who had already replaced a fender on his truck. (If you decide to pull your fender, be aware there is a bolt under the windshield wiper valence. You'd need a super stubby screwdriver to get that cover off, after you remove your windshield wipers.) If you have sliders, confirm you can reach the bolt under the fender at the very front of the slider.
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To get the fender off, first take off your windshield wiper arms. Then put a short screwdriver bit in a socket wrench to make a stubby enough screwdriver to take off the valence (metal cover between hood and windshield). Then take out the bolts for the fender. There are about 6 across the top. One of the bolts on the top is under where the windshield wiper cover came off. One fender bolt inside the door frame. Open the door to see it at the height of the top of the fender. One or two at the bottom rear of the fender. If you have sliders, they are likely pushed right up against them. Then there are about 6 bolts inside the fender well. (Just above where the outside edge of the tire would rub them.)

Taking off the fender makes it MUCH easier to put the nuts and washers on the studs from the snorkel. It does not help mounting the bracket on the A-pillar. Taking the fender off still doesn't make it easy to attach the rubber tube, since you have to get it connected after you re-mount the fender. Having the fender off makes it easier to get at the antenna parts. Unfortunately you'll have to attach the fender before the top or the bottom of the antenna. If you're building the Wagongear antenna mount (to use a CB antenna for both a CB and the radio) you almost have to take the fender off to set up the bottom mount. My brother and I both bought the antenna mount. I decided I wanted a regular power antenna, so I have a Wagongear mount available (PM me).
 
LFD2037 said:
How hard was it to take the fender off? I'd think this way would be much better and I could finally remove my useless electric antennae.
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Lucky for me, the PO only had a few bolts in. Really lucky for me, the remaining bolts just snapped off when I tried to turn them out, so now I can use the empty holes to put it back on.

I didn't take the wiper or the valance off; I just used my ratcheting 90 degree screwdriver to undo two of the screws and pried it up enough to get a socket in there. But otherwise, the instructions above will do it.
 
RTH, I don't have the snorkel in front of me (mine is a TMS) but I need to pick up a holesaw today. Can anyone confirm what size holesaw I need for the big hole?
 
3.5"-4". Pretty sure my friend brought a 4" when we cut mine, but can't verify until later.
 
thank you!
 
I'm still struggling to get mine on. One learning point: Don't be shy to drill the holes oversize. You really only need to get them close.

For whatever reason, tightening the snorkel on my body panel has distorted it somehow, giving me interference issues with my pax door opening and closing.
 
So, the FEDEX guy brought a nice long package this morning and waaaaay too many hours later, I have it mounted. Problem was, I'm working on a car with a front end hit in its past and the body panels have been tortured a bit to fit. I figured out how the body man cobbled it last time and just reproduced that, and voila! I now am "snorkled."

A couple things:

1. LIke I said earlier, drilling the holes a bit oversized simplify life immensely. There really is no purpose to super precise tight fits here, and the larger holes allow for quite a bit of necessary flex.

2. The upper brace I just used black zip ties to secure to the snorkel. Getting everything drilled precisely and fitting just right ticked me off immensely, so I just ziptied it and called it good.

3. It's easier to remove the filter assembly and then mount the hose to the snorkel. Then slide the hose to the snorkel using the filter assembly to push with.

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6894kevin said:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/arb-safari-snork-template.819453/

anyone try this?
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The template from the manufacturer was way off. The one from NLXTACY may be perfect for the ARB snorkel. It was pretty close for my clone. I used that template for the big hole. Then locktighted the studs into my snorkel. Put Sharpie marker on the stud tips, and slammed the studs against the template. Drilled the holes a bit over size, and the snorkle went on. I wish I had drilled the mounting holes a bit bigger (as suggested above). One of the studs would not fit through the fender. (With all the other studs tight, it looks fine.) With bigger holes I could have wiggled it on.
 
I finished up the TMS snorkel install last night. Overall pretty smooth. The supplied template wasn't quite accurate. The two holes closest to the windshield were not in the correct place but that was about all I needed to change. After drilling the holes, I removed the fender to make it easier to tighten all the bolts and remove the factory intake plumbing. The quality of the snorkel is really quite good, in fact excellent considering the price. For a $40 Snorkel it is great. Comparing it to the Safari snorkels I've used in the past, the obvious difference is the lack of the embossed Safari logo on the main body. Fitment is and construction is good although it may not be quite as precise where the snorkel follows the contours of the fender at the front, but I'm getting quite nit-picky. Material seems to be the same plastics. Time will tell if this one has problems with UV exposure and fading or cracking, but I doubt it. So with the exception of needing to do some double-checking of measurements I'm very please with the purchase.
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I'm guessing the 30 and 40$snorkels people are talking about are the Amazon ones that have like a 30$ shipping fee? Cheapest I've found shipped was eBay for around 67$
 
Yeah mine was from Amazon and I think total cost was $67 shipped.
 
97 greenmonster said:
I'm guessing the 30 and 40$snorkels people are talking about are the Amazon ones that have like a 30$ shipping fee? Cheapest I've found shipped was eBay for around 67$
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Yes. You can buy a $39 snorkel with $30 shipping or the $69 snorkel with free shipping.

I think the knock off snorkels typically sell for $79-$139. ...so $69 isn't really that much less than usual, but it was enough less that I finally got one.
 
retrofive said:
If I was worried and mine broke due to UV or a tree I would just buy another one.
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seriously. For the cost of mine it's probably just as cheap to replace as it is to repair.
 
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