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Slee 200 Series Front Bumper - Release (2 Viewers)
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Front bumper looks awesome! One of the best LC200 front bumpers in my opinion! Nice work!
Yep
Those of you that follow this forum a lot, has anyone posted an install thread on the Slee front bumper?
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Nolen, we have not done a video, but here is the link for instructions.
Any chance this can be special ordered without the funky recessed light cutouts to make it more “shortbusesque”?
Love the lines and fitment of this, but those light cutouts
Love the lines and fitment of this, but those light cutouts
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Man, I’m blown away that I don’t have better pics haha. I’ll start though, maybe @sleeoffroad has some better ones. This was an early prototype (similar to production) without a stinger.
I personally love how it looks on earlier trucks. The cut is a little bit different as the earlier trucks plastic is a touch more bulbous.
Oh Man!!
If he sold that particular one without the goofy light cutouts (current one they sell) or stinger I’d buy it tomorrow!
Love it
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Thanks! Your pictures made me realize the light bar piece is bolt-on and can be removed.
Still wondering about the bumper, it has bit of an underbite. Do you happen to have pictures of the side profile?
OTOH it seems the winch is very accessible on it.
PS. Found more pics on slee's webpage: FOR SALE- 2010 200 Series Land Cruiser - Slee Off Road - https://sleeoffroad.com/fs-2010-slee-built-200/
Definitely sticks out quite a bit:
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I am curious about the mounting solution to the frame. The frame horns are thin and poorly welded and tend to crack from vibrations with a heavy bumper hanging off them. ARB and TJM solved it with the clevis nut and a stud solution that clamps the mount deep into the frame.
Seems like Slee's solution is to mount attach to bumper to the tow hook points at the bottom (this is common, Dissent and others do it), but also add two rivet nuts on the side with the extra bracket that I think it is supposed to transfer some of the load to the bolts that go into the rivet nuts so to off load the horns' studs. It still seems that bending moment will be pulling at the top of the horns? (like when winching) But perhaps this is enough to prevent cracking from vibrations?
I suppose they decided this adequate, but I gotta say I like ARB/TJM approach better. @sleeoffroad, any comments why not the clevis nut/stud solution?
Seems like Slee's solution is to mount attach to bumper to the tow hook points at the bottom (this is common, Dissent and others do it), but also add two rivet nuts on the side with the extra bracket that I think it is supposed to transfer some of the load to the bolts that go into the rivet nuts so to off load the horns' studs. It still seems that bending moment will be pulling at the top of the horns? (like when winching) But perhaps this is enough to prevent cracking from vibrations?
I suppose they decided this adequate, but I gotta say I like ARB/TJM approach better. @sleeoffroad, any comments why not the clevis nut/stud solution?
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ARB is a beefier mounting solution.
What size meats are those?
For sure. I am kinda puzzled it is not commonly copied, it's very trivial to make. The clevis nut is not a complex piece. Add threaded stud and done.
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I may be called lazy for it, but does anyone have a photo or diagram of the ARB support that would save me from searching on the interwebs?
I'm having a hard time visualizing a clevis nut and stud.
Yup, lazy as heck!
Here are pictures from TJM install manual, but pretty much same exact thing.
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Thanks a lot! That makes a lot of sense seeing the photos.
Seems like this could be added to a Slee bumper if their mounting flange is large enough to overlap that rod position.
The extra rod is a good extra support, but still not great.
I think the rod is good enough. Clamps everything deep into the frame. It supports heavy ARB/TJM bullbars without issues apparently. Basically prevents pulling on/vibrating the horn plate and causing it to crack at the frame weld.
On the Slee bumper, I think it would interfere with the structure of the winch cradle - I was actually looking at the picture if it could be retrofitted and the big vertical bracket would be in the way. Notching it probably would not be a good idea nor easy. I think it could be easily retrofitted for the Dissent bumper since nothing appears to be in the way where the stud comes out (need to drill thru 3 layers of brackets/spacer).
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Different styles of mounting that accomplish what they need to in order manage the loads placed on them. I’ve loaded both the Slee bumper to ~11k pounds of winch load and the ARB to 9600lbs of winch load.
A couple of notes… I stopped at ~9600 pounds of load on the ARB because it was deflecting so bad I was worried I was going to do permanent damage.
The Slee bumper was starting to deflect at ~11k, but after so many pulls, the electrical system was starting to freak out if I recall, or maybe we ran out of linked vehicles to drag. Christo has the numbers somewhere, I want to say it was 10,900 and change.
One key feature that is probably overlooked between the two is the rigidity of the winch cradle/bumper mounting brackets. It was designed to really not deflect much at all at a 2x safety factor of the loads produced by a 12k lb winch. This distributes the loads to both frame horns better than the ARB in my opinion.. and in testing.
They are both great bumpers (I admit I’m a bit biased) There are 2 big considerations…
The ARB bracketry is designed to give way in an accident, the slee bracketry is not. The slee bracketry is so rigid that if someone put a large capacity winch (like a 14.5k) they could do catastrophic damage to the frame. On an ARB you’d likely ruin the bumper or break the winch before ruining the frame… maybe, but it would definitely pretzel more before destroying the frame haha.
Anyhow, you really can’t go wrong with either. They are really designed for different purposes.
That’s the extent of my memory from 4-5 years ago haha and I wouldn’t get too wrapped around the axle about the through bolt.
A couple of notes… I stopped at ~9600 pounds of load on the ARB because it was deflecting so bad I was worried I was going to do permanent damage.
The Slee bumper was starting to deflect at ~11k, but after so many pulls, the electrical system was starting to freak out if I recall, or maybe we ran out of linked vehicles to drag. Christo has the numbers somewhere, I want to say it was 10,900 and change.
One key feature that is probably overlooked between the two is the rigidity of the winch cradle/bumper mounting brackets. It was designed to really not deflect much at all at a 2x safety factor of the loads produced by a 12k lb winch. This distributes the loads to both frame horns better than the ARB in my opinion.. and in testing.
They are both great bumpers (I admit I’m a bit biased) There are 2 big considerations…
The ARB bracketry is designed to give way in an accident, the slee bracketry is not. The slee bracketry is so rigid that if someone put a large capacity winch (like a 14.5k) they could do catastrophic damage to the frame. On an ARB you’d likely ruin the bumper or break the winch before ruining the frame… maybe, but it would definitely pretzel more before destroying the frame haha.
Anyhow, you really can’t go wrong with either. They are really designed for different purposes.
That’s the extent of my memory from 4-5 years ago haha and I wouldn’t get too wrapped around the axle about the through bolt.
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