Saving fasteners (1 Viewer)

[GerhardUngerer]

The fasteners on my burgundy FJ80 is VERY rusty. I have replaced some that were damaged and have rejuvenated ones with light surface rust on the wire wheel.

I then got the bright idea to see if I can use a tumbler. First try was with kitty litter as media (FAIL). Then I bought the HF resin media. It didn't do much and I considered it a bust. But as a last try, I just added a bit of soapy water to the media and sprayed some PB Blaster into it. Why you ask? Why not?

This is the result. Untreated on the left. Treated on the right. Thoughts?

 

[CharlieS]

Nice. Great results !

I'll have to try this. Can you share what tool you use to tumble them?

I've got buckets of old fasteners and they come in handy.

Related note, I carry a mix of old fasteners when I'm on trail - and It feels good when you're on trail and can save someone's day with some random bolt or nut.

Also, I have to give the 80 engineers props. You could probably disassemble 80% of this thing with an assortment of 10 and 12 mm tools, extensions and screwdrivers. Wierd exceptions like the kick down cable (14mm) aside... (yes, I know I'm exaggerating). Much more consistent and simple than the 200s though.

 

[GerhardUngerer]

I'll have to try this. Can you share what tool you use to tumble them?

I've got buckets of old fasteners and they come in handy.

Buckets full, you say. I wish. I have considered just going to a junkyard and asking the owner how much they would charge me to rid a few Toyotas of fasteners. However, I have not found a junkyard with Toyota trucks here in Charlotte.

I used the 5lb tumbler from Harbor Freight and the resin media. Afterwards I lightly heated them up and dunked them in oil to preserve them. Will see.

 

[CharlieS]

~40 years of car, boat and motorcycle projects. Yup, buckets. If only I could retire on my fastener collection wealth. lol

Thanks for the info. I'm going to go shopping...

 

[CharlieS]

Buckets full, you say. I wish. I have considered just going to a junkyard and asking the owner how much they would charge me to rid a few Toyotas of fasteners. However, I have not found a junkyard with Toyota trucks here in Charlotte.

I used the 5lb tumbler from Harbor Freight and the resin media. Afterwards I lightly heated them up and dunked them in oil to preserve them. Will see.

I've seen ebay auctions with lots of fasteners form a particular vehicle. That might be one way to get a bunch at once. I think it is a byproduct of people and/or salvage yards stripping vehicles for parts.

 

[bj70bc]

evaporust works good too

 

[Malleus]

My 3 step plan:
degrime with purple greaser (your choice)
dereust with Evaporust
wire wheel

Done.

 

[Malleus]

Buckets full, you say. I wish. I have considered just going to a junkyard and asking the owner how much they would charge me to rid a few Toyotas of fasteners. However, I have not found a junkyard with Toyota trucks here in Charlotte.

I used the 5lb tumbler from Harbor Freight and the resin media. Afterwards I lightly heated them up and dunked them in oil to preserve them. Will see.

Every time I go to LKQ, I leave with at least 1-lb of screw, nuts and bolts from Toyota floorboards and engine removals (they're lying all over the ground under the cars/trucks. I've never been asked to pay for any of them. I stopped picking up 80 lugnuts because I didn't have any room to store them.

 

[leonard_nemoy]

The fasteners on my burgundy FJ80 is VERY rusty. I have replaced some that were damaged and have rejuvenated ones with light surface rust on the wire wheel.

I then got the bright idea to see if I can use a tumbler. First try was with kitty litter as media (FAIL). Then I bought the HF resin media. It didn't do much and I considered it a bust. But as a last try, I just added a bit of soapy water to the media and sprayed some PB Blaster into it. Why you ask? Why not?

This is the result. Untreated on the left. Treated on the right. Thoughts?

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Looks good, now you could heat them with a torch and drop them in some oil to give them some rust protection.

 

[CharlieS]

Looks good, now you could heat them with a torch and drop them in some oil to give them some rust protection.

Can you say more about this? How hot, what kind of oil, etc? Does it make some changes to the metal structure?

 

[leonard_nemoy]

Can you say more about this? How hot, what kind of oil, etc? Does it make some changes to the metal structure?

I was taught to heat the metal unitl it just starts to turn red. I have always used whatever used motor oil I had at the time.

I probably wouldn't use this method on critical bolts that see high torque values like a brake caliper bolt for example. But for something like an alternator bracket, or a body bolt it works fine.

 

[clx16]

Every time I go to LKQ, I leave with at least 1-lb of screw, nuts and bolts from Toyota floorboards and engine removals (they're lying all over the ground under the cars/trucks. I've never been asked to pay for any of them. I stopped picking up 80 lugnuts because I didn't have any room to store them.

Same here. I try to be as diverse about what I am grabbing as possible, but typically the larger stuff I run short on. I don't know how people get their stuff back together with all the nuts and bolts they leave behind.

 

[aztoyman]

I use my ammo tumbler with the stainless pins. I add some citrus degreaser or dawn dish soap. They look brand new, even into the threads. BUT...they are bare metal after. I never tried the products out there to parkerize or gold cad them.

 

[Malleus]

I find a two or three year soak in ATF does wonders...not that I've ever temporarily "lost" parts soaking in a container, or anything.

 

[Spdstr280Z]

They look good ! But like mentioned above, they are bare metal now and will rust again quickly. That being said, I spent more money than I might like to admit on new Toyota fasteners and with only about 3,000 miles on the "rebuild" (and in the south, no road salt) some of the new stuff is already "corroding". I guess the new coatings are still not as good as the old poisonous cadmium stuff. The ones I cleaned up then painted seem to be holding up the best.

Jason

 

[GerhardUngerer]

They look good ! But like mentioned above, they are bare metal now and will rust again quickly. That being said, I spent more money than I might like to admit on new Toyota fasteners and with only about 3,000 miles on the "rebuild" (and in the south, no road salt) some of the new stuff is already "corroding". I guess the new coatings are still not as good as the old poisonous cadmium stuff. The ones I cleaned up then painted seem to be holding up the best.

Jason

I heated mine up with a torch (not quite red hot) and then doused them in old engine oil.

 

[SNLC]

FYI, Nissan used the same hardware so you can steal hardware from Nissans in a JY too.

Cheers

 

[GerhardUngerer]

FYI, Nissan used the same hardware so you can steal hardware from Nissans in a JY too.

Cheers

Steal is such a strong word. How about "liberate"?

 

[Spdstr280Z]

FYI, Nissan used the same hardware so you can steal hardware from Nissans in a JY too.

Cheers

The bottom 2/3 of my bolt bucket is Datsun / Nissan, with Toyota only recently adding a layer...