I am considering removing the carpet from my 96lx. i use it primarily to go fish and run errands. A few questions first though. To those who have done this, likes/regrets? What did you do if anything with the wiring? Is sound deadening (dynamat etc) a must for non wheeling highway use? Does truck bed liner work well over a sound deadening material? And is anyone running the factory rubber floor, I read that this was a part of the poverty package. Anyway any advice, opinions, pics are appreciated.
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I did this on my 83 Toyota Trailblazer but partially because the carpet was trashed and had to come out anyway to repair the floor. I primed with Mastercoat silver and sprayed in Raptorliner. I'm pleased and have considered this with my 80 but I do have exposed wiring (very little) in the Trailblazer. I think I will stick with carpet in the 80 but I would like to hear from those that have removed it and sprayed.
That's next up for me, once I get time.
My wife is done with the tired brown interior, and wants a black floor and a gray interior, with cloth seats.
More utilitarian and stark, I think.
My wife is done with the tired brown interior, and wants a black floor and a gray interior, with cloth seats.
More utilitarian and stark, I think.
I'm disappointed there haven't been any comments full of innuendo on this topic... 
Staying on-topic though, I AM interested to hear what others have done about the wiring if they have eliminated the carpet. I think the best option would be to switch over to a rubber or vinyl floor with appropriate padding.
My FJC has the vinyl floor, which in most cases is great, but I think the design falls short when you arrive at the edges of the body where the pinch weld and wiring sit. It is too easy for water(especially salty water in Winter) to runoff and surround the edges and possibly lead to problems. Good Floor mats would help to prevent this some, but not entirely.
Staying on-topic though, I AM interested to hear what others have done about the wiring if they have eliminated the carpet. I think the best option would be to switch over to a rubber or vinyl floor with appropriate padding.
My FJC has the vinyl floor, which in most cases is great, but I think the design falls short when you arrive at the edges of the body where the pinch weld and wiring sit. It is too easy for water(especially salty water in Winter) to runoff and surround the edges and possibly lead to problems. Good Floor mats would help to prevent this some, but not entirely.
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Golgo I agree on the lack of comments. A fellow titles his posts to make things easier for everyone, yet no takers.
I like the idea of a spray or roll on application because it would obviously form well to the shape and fill in void. Also there may be some problems that im not thinking of. Hopefully more will weigh in on the topic.
I like the idea of a spray or roll on application because it would obviously form well to the shape and fill in void. Also there may be some problems that im not thinking of. Hopefully more will weigh in on the topic.
2fpower
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Make sure your A/C works!!! The carpet and insulation stops a ton of heat!! I have an open air rig (FOO) that I took the carpet out then froze it to get the insulation and rubber/tar stuff off. Sanded and put raptor liner on it. Looks great, easy clean up. BUT HOT!!! The tranny tunnel and floors (both sides) get really warm.
Went back, scuffed the front seat areas, and shot AL's heat and noise reducer (HNR) then sprayed raptor again. made a huge difference, but is still radiates a bunch of heat.
I am adding a/c back to the rig now.
Wiring -- really most all of the wires go down the outside sills and stay out of the way. I did add some split casing in a couple areas but otherwise it is stock.
I have not ever driven through water higher than the floorpan, so don't know if that would be an issue.
Good luck.
Went back, scuffed the front seat areas, and shot AL's heat and noise reducer (HNR) then sprayed raptor again. made a huge difference, but is still radiates a bunch of heat.
I am adding a/c back to the rig now.
Wiring -- really most all of the wires go down the outside sills and stay out of the way. I did add some split casing in a couple areas but otherwise it is stock.
I have not ever driven through water higher than the floorpan, so don't know if that would be an issue.
Good luck.
2fpower
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If you want more opinions, you likely need to move over to the 40 forum. Most everyone over there is adding some sort of heat reducer. Lizard skin or something like that is the other product.
@2fpower is correct, there is a LOT of heat that radiates from the floor. That is half the reason for the carpet padding. Ideally, if you can put an effective barrier between the heat sources and the underbody, that would be a great first step. It would be a real PITA to deal with, but there are some products available that are spray-on heat-barriers/sound-deadeners specifically for the underbody. However, I am not sure about effectiveness.
2fpower
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Most products I have seen are water soluable. Their instructions say that they can be sprayed outside, but must have a solid top coat protectant, and they advise to use inside. I don't know that I have seen any posts of being sprayed outside the cab. Seems like a lot of prep work upside down to clean off 20 years of grime to paint it.
I have heard of some folks adding aluminum heat shields. that sounds like a decent idea if there is room.
Like I said... Pain in the A$$... working upside down sucks.
Even adding a heat shield means you have to find a way to attach it.
There are non-water soluble things available if you look enough... Toyota uses them for current production. I'll see if I can find a manufacturer. A lot of OE paint/coating companies have products available to the public, they just aren't always easy to find.
Tapage
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Fellow here did with Rhino Linings Corporation | Rhino Linings Corporation - Protective Coatings, Spray-On Liners and Spray Polyurethane Foams thick layer .. like 1/4 and do a great job with heat, not so much with the sound ..
The worst thing I ever did to my 80 (and led to the downward spiral) was taking the carpet out.
Looking back now in hindsight, I would have sealed the floor and re-installed the carpet then put a rubber barrier on top of the carpet.
Clean carpet as needed but still allow it to do the NVH work that Toyota designed into it.
Looking back now in hindsight, I would have sealed the floor and re-installed the carpet then put a rubber barrier on top of the carpet.
Clean carpet as needed but still allow it to do the NVH work that Toyota designed into it.
I think we need a a whole tread devoted to "lessons learned from the Raisin"
2fpower
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protocol is that every time we mention the Raisin, we have to have a moment of silence....
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after knocking o can of beer inside my cruiser i learned two things:
1, beers rest nicely and safely on the bumper, down beside the corner of the open tailgate;
2, i like it a lot better with the rear carpet, which i removed to get all cleaned, removed.
You reveal two tie-downs back there ; I can throw in a dirty garbage can, or anything and just wipe it up and sweep it out.
*i also carry two pieces of household scrap carpet ~ 20"x45", which have closed-cell foam attached to the underside, they keep things from vibrating, and i use them on the dirt to get under the rig for greasing stuff and the like.
1, beers rest nicely and safely on the bumper, down beside the corner of the open tailgate;
2, i like it a lot better with the rear carpet, which i removed to get all cleaned, removed.
You reveal two tie-downs back there ; I can throw in a dirty garbage can, or anything and just wipe it up and sweep it out.
*i also carry two pieces of household scrap carpet ~ 20"x45", which have closed-cell foam attached to the underside, they keep things from vibrating, and i use them on the dirt to get under the rig for greasing stuff and the like.
