replacing rear ac lines- 100 series suggestions and observations (5 Viewers)

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Just replaced my rear ac line in my 2004 100 series with about 79k miles and wanted to share more info about replacing the lines, seeing that there will be more people having this problem as time goes by.

There are are two options people have done- change the line for about $105(retail -tax included) or cap or the rear ac lines for about $40-50 (Airsept products that others have used/suggested on other posts)


This line that leaked for me is the thinner (high side?) line that runs from the front of the passenger wheel well to the top of the muffler. This is my suggestions and observations for replacing this approx. 5 foot section of line.

Cruiserdan does not ship this part because it is too long so don't waste your time asking him. Toyotapartscheap.com sells it for over 70 bucks but since it is an over-sized part and about 30 bucks to ship, it comes out about the same price as buying from the dealer directly.


There's a metal protective cover for the ac where the passenger front wheel well and the running board meet under the the car. There are three 10mm nuts that hold down this cover. There are a total of 4 harnesses/brackets that hold this particular line to the body of the vehicle. One of the harnesses is behind the muffler and there is one nylon zip tie also.

Unless you lose all of the refrigerant, always assume that your lines are under high pressure and will expel oil and gas when you open up the system. I will now describe these 4 harnesses from left to right starting from the wheel well to the muffler(as if you were looking up from under the truck after sliding under from the passenger side of truck). These harnesses are crimped/corroded so you might have use pliers to work them loose. The first two harnesses are pretty easy to figure out. The third one is the trickiest.

The third one, I unbolted the supporting arm ( to large line) and cut out the THIN leaking refrigerant line on each side of this main bracket. This allowed me to shift(left and right) and spin the bracket around the larger line. I pried the bracket slightly open to slide it to the right of the large line where the line thins down. This way I could pull out the bracket.

This bracket you could replace or drill new holes to accept new nuts and bolts that hold the two halves of the bracket together. The original bolts are not worth dealing with because of corrosion.

The fourth bracket is not too much more difficult than the first two, but you will need an socket extension. Don't forget to cut the nylon tie along the way. Remove the two bolts that hold the metal muffler shield to the body for easier access to lines. I couldn't remove the shield from the area but was able to shuffle it around to keep it out of the way

Other suggestions is to leave the last cut line section (third bracket to behind muffler) alone till you are ready to replace. This allows you to study the angles and positions of how to place the new line in. By not trying to bend/force the old line while pulling it out, you can gauge how to put in the new line in. Amazingly I was able to get it in on the first try by studying how I twisted the old one out.

Inspect the rubber O rings for damage.Wipe off any debris on threads and connectors before reassembling to ensure a tight seal.

I found a mom and pop auto shop in the NW Chicago area that charged me $83 bucks to evacuate and recharge the AC system.

My observations is that the leak occurred near the first bracket. Road dirt and debris got between the bracket's rubber grommet and the refrigerant line and wore down the soft aluminum tube. Moisture retention also didn't help also. Annual cleaning might prevent further problems.

I also removed corrosion from the metal cover with a wire wheel and repainted with many coats to slow down rust while I was repairing.

I did this on the ground without a mechanic creeper without the stock truck lifted and found this easy because I did the work lying down on my back. Making it easier to reach behind the muffler to tighten bolts and lines. I am on the thinner side of body proportion and the behind the muffler section might be the toughest section of the job for larger tummies and arms.

Hope this helps somebody along the road, wondering whether to repair or cap this section of the AC lines.
Good luck!
 
Just replaced my High Pressure line that is the aft section of the line you just replaced. I also live in Chicagoland so all the salt they dump on the road is going to increase the maintenance required. I had to drop the muffler to get my line off and it was a heck of a job getting that rear section of the high pressure line out from underneath the truck. The bolt that attaches the lines to the rear evaporate just sheared off as soon as I turned it. I have a write up on my experience if you ever need to replace this piece. I've got Vac pump and the tools need to charge the system so if you have problems in the future PM me and I'd be happy to help.
 
Thanks for the info and write up. Due to a mishap with my rear bumper I have been under the rear of my truck recently and was looking at those exact lines. I live in STL and salt here is terrible as well. :( They look a little corroded, sadly I wonder if this is on the radar for me.
 
Just replaced my High Pressure line that is the aft section of the line you just replaced. I also live in Chicagoland so all the salt they dump on the road is going to increase the maintenance required. I had to drop the muffler to get my line off and it was a heck of a job getting that rear section of the high pressure line out from underneath the truck. The bolt that attaches the lines to the rear evaporate just sheared off as soon as I turned it. I have a write up on my experience if you ever need to replace this piece. I've got Vac pump and the tools need to charge the system so if you have problems in the future PM me and I'd be happy to help.


Thanks for the offer might have to eventually work on that :( . I didn't think that the rear section was problematic too. Thanks for your input. Might think twice about capping the rear AC if I hear more problems with the lines. Got three kids so the Rear AC stays for now and the price to fix the current line was only about 60 bucks more than capping it(although more labor). Going to have to look for the link to your write up.
 
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Thanks for the info and write up. Due to a mishap with my rear bumper I have been under the rear of my truck recently and was looking at those exact lines. I live in STL and salt here is terrible as well. :( They look a little corroded, sadly I wonder if this is on the radar for me.
I would at least take off the ac line cover/protector under the passenger side wheel well and do some cleaning. I found enough dirt there to make a golf ball size mud/gravel ball. This abrasive compound is not good for the lines and just retains moisture longer every time it rains.It eventually makes an abrasive paste rubbing against the soft aluminum. Just keep an eye for oil leaks in that area. It could be water condensate or ac oil.
 
I would at least take off the ac line cover/protector under the passenger side wheel well and do some cleaning. I found enough dirt there to make a golf ball size mud/gravel ball. This abrasive compound is not good for the lines and just retains moisture longer every time it rains.It eventually makes an abrasive paste rubbing against the soft aluminum. Just keep an eye for oil leaks in that area. It could be water condensate or ac oil.

Thanks, on my to do list now. :)
 
LOL...Now that she is packed in the garage and I have been doing some other work. I was researching the AC rear line again, as my AC ended up going out late this fall. Upon searching I have stumbled across myself asking about this same issue. Sorry......squirrel. ADD issues. I am rambling.

Anyways, thanks again for this write. As I have ordered the parts and will be doing this soon so I can enjoy the truck went it gets hot again.
 
Anybody know the part number for the rear-most "thin" line? The part diagram for these lines is basically as useless as could be, looks like it was drawn by my 4yr-old. This is the line that terminates into the actual floor of the car, I'm assuming into the actual rear AC unit itself. Onpoint01, I'm in the north 'burbs FWIW.
 
I put together a slightly better version of the parts listing that also has names and full numbers, albeit for the 2000 LX470. It can be found here.

Thinner lines are virtually always the liquid line (high pressure side). And the thicker lines, known as suction lines, flow the refrigerant as gas (low pressure side).

If the LX part numbers work for you, take a look on page 470 at the diagram, then page 471 for part names/numbers. I think you will find the number to be 88726-60650.

UPDATE: The file hosting company changed links. A member asked for the file, so I post this in case anyone else finds the old info but can't find the file.
 
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I put together a slightly better version of the parts listing that also has names and full numbers, albeit for the 2000 LX470. It can be found here.

Thinner lines are virtually always the liquid line (high pressure side). And the thicker lines, known as suction lines, flow the refrigerant as gas (low pressure side).

If the LX part numbers work for you, take a look on page 470 at the diagram, then page 471 for part names/numbers. I think you will find the number to be 88726-60650.


This is great, thanks! Is there some cross-reference from the diagram to the actual part numbers? Meaning, I know you provided the part number, I just don't know where you got it.
 
Two years ago I had to help a friend to replace the front section and right after my own rear section went out (thank you Chicagoland)
The bolt that holds the line to the rear evaporator sheered off as well, but being generally pretty stubborn I tried to drill the bolt out and tap it with good results (seemed like less work than replacing the evaporator ;) )
 
This is great, thanks! Is there some cross-reference from the diagram to the actual part numbers? Meaning, I know you provided the part number, I just don't know where you got it.

Yes. If you downloaded the file, follow along.

On the part diagram pages each part has a number. Take note of it.

On the page(s) following the diagram text you can find that number, then below that number should be the name of the part as well as the full part number. It also lists how many of the parts you would need to replace (for those things that have more than one) and a price that I culled from the Web that mostly looks like it's retail, but not always (there just to give one an idea of how expensive the job can be).

Example: The part diagram on page 470 for the thin/rearmost AC line shows part 88716M. The following page shows 88716M followed by the text PIPE, COOLER REFRIGERANT LIQUID, M. The next line down gives the part number 88726-6065, then a space followed by the number 1 (meaning you would need only one of that part) and finally a price.

You need to note the diagram number and go to the full number on the text filled pages because the number on the diagram might cover multiple years, but the text pages that follow will show different full part numbers when there is a difference (usually between 98/99 and 2000/02).

The text might help with the parts department guy at a dealership, and the quantity shows you how many to order. Example, near the bottom of page 289 it shows 16 exhaust valve stem oil seals would be required ( for an R&R of both cylinder heads). And if you look further down (page 290) under exhaust valves you see a differentiation between two different model years.

Additionally, this file makes use of bookmarks. Not sure what sort of program you use to view a PDF file, but if you view the bookmarks it can help you quickly narrow down the search for the part you seek by going to major system and further subdivided into sub system diagrams and parts references.

Hope this helped - didn't mean to overkill, but also didn't know what you didn't understand from my first attempt to help.
 
So, I got the correct part at the dealer. Went to go replace it and STEP 1, complete 100% failure. The bolt head on the clamp holding the lines to the rear evaporator snapped right off in the evaporator. Dissimilar metals plus salt... NFW this bolt would ever come out in one piece.

I don't know what to do. I could screw around with trying to drill and tap this thing, totally upside down under the car with absolutely no clearance at and stuff raining down on my face and eyes, or just get the AC blockoff kit, or just drop the whole thing off at an indy and have them do it. Really frustrating. Might be time to upgrade the whole rig. I think pre-kids there is time to work on this stuff, and after they move out there's probably time again, but in between I need cars that I don't have to wrench on every weekend.
 
@m3fan how did you make out on this? I have a break in my rear line near the rear a/c and looked at that rusted bolt and said no way. I understand exactly about the no time thing as I have 2 little ones that take up all my time. Did you get the block off from airsept?
 
@m3fan how did you make out on this? I have a break in my rear line near the rear a/c and looked at that rusted bolt and said no way. I understand exactly about the no time thing as I have 2 little ones that take up all my time. Did you get the block off from airsept?

So I took a deep breath and went back at it. I pulled the whole rear AC assembly out of the car and drilled and tapped it on the bench. I used a slightly smaller bolt, a M5 bolt. Removing the rear assembly isn't too bad of an operation. Then I ran the new rear portion of the line as originally planned. Of course, the rear line doesn't really go in easily since it's pre-bent and installed before the body is mated to the frame. But, I "persuaded" it into position and ended up bending it quite a bit to get it in there.

Then I took it to a shop just to have them pull a vacuum on it and they said there was still a hole. Sure enough, the front section of the smaller AC line also had a few holes in it so I replaced that too. Much easier.

At that point I bought my own vacuum pump and AC gauge set at Harbor Freight. I was determined to do it all myself and not be dependent on a shop to determine if I had solved the problem. Sure enough, replacing the 2nd line did the job. I pulled a vacuum for a half hour and charged her up. ICE COLD now. Family happy. One of my favorite repairs of all time.
 
That's great you fixed it. Must have been tough drilling that out. I am determined to fix mine as well as a co-worker has been back 2times to Toyota with his a/c issues. Been looking at those tools as well. Once you pulled the vacuum how did you get the compressor to turn on with no refrigerant? I am trying to determine if my compressor is good or not. Did you have to run a jumper wire to get the magnetic clutch to run?
 
That's great you fixed it. Must have been tough drilling that out. I am determined to fix mine as well as a co-worker has been back 2times to Toyota with his a/c issues. Been looking at those tools as well. Once you pulled the vacuum how did you get the compressor to turn on with no refrigerant? I am trying to determine if my compressor is good or not. Did you have to run a jumper wire to get the magnetic clutch to run?

Once you pull the vacuum and start adding refrigerant the vacuum draws it in and the compressor kicks right on. Easy. I actually did not have the adaptor for the freon cans to connect to the middle hose of the manifold so I pulled vacuum, popped off the LP manifold connection (shreader valve closes on the LP connection, preserving vacuum), then connected one of those silly AC can pigtail connections that come with the cans to the LP side with the refrigerant can. Drew it in, no problem.
 
Thanks for the info. Once I get those lines fixed now I have an idea what to do. Just hope my compressor is good. Sounds too easy to be true.
 
I continue to struggle with a small leak...whats involved with uncovering the line from behind the front passenger wheel to the back where the rear lines run.

I assume the following:

Remove passenger front wheel well cover
Remove passenger side running board
Remove passenger side rear wheel well cover

Is there anything else I am missing?

Thanks.
 

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