Long term? I've got 16 years and (as of this weekend) 277,000 miles using regular with ethanol. Absolutely zero issues.
Regular Unleaded or Premium Unleaded?
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Long term? I've got 16 years and (as of this weekend) 277,000 miles using regular with ethanol. Absolutely zero issues.
I pump regular.
PN's for what?
Only thing about mid grade is the fuel is mixed with a "union valve" so if theres bad gas in either tank you're gonna get some of it. I always use the newest stations in town as they have the newest cleanest tanks with the least amount of crud in the bottom.
This is after working 2 summers for the company that replaced leaking tanks.
Never ever buy gas while the refill truck is present as there fill tank goes to 8 inches off the bottom and stires up all the gunk.
This is after working 2 summers for the company that replaced leaking tanks.
Never ever buy gas while the refill truck is present as there fill tank goes to 8 inches off the bottom and stires up all the gunk.
Ok, so it's my understanding that in ~2003 the premium fuel reqmt was no longer in the owners manual or inside fuel door.
I assume toyota changed some parts in the injectors or sensors somewhere?
Just curious if there are different part#s for a 99 vs 03...
APKhaos
Unfixing the unfixable
Mine drinks 87 and loves it. Still manages to deliver around 14MPG in around town driving. Better on road trips. Worse when towing [shocker!]
In 2003, they went from a 4-speed transmission to the 5-speed transmission. In doing so, they could achieve the same fuel economy on 87-octane as before. Previously, they had to have 93-octane to get the rated mileage out of the 4-speed slushbox. Then, in 2006 when they added VVTi, they were able to bump up the rated MPG due to the increased HP/Torque combined with the 5-speed trans.
Wow....there are a lot of parts in the EFI system for me to check. I'd need a bit of time on that.
Guess I'm switching to regular
Christo is also at 5000 ft and his regular is what? 85 octane? Which is fine until you come down the mountain.
cruzerDave
Land Shark Outfitters
@DMX84 OMG I have not hear/read Todd Day's name since, well, 2002 or so?!!? And LTT, wow, takes me back to my 97 TSI AWD (which I still have) - were you on the Talon Digest?!?
I understand most posters here have a Land Cruiser. What gas should I run in my 07 LX470? I've only had it for several months, but so far I have only used premium 93 octane. Can I switch to just regular from now or is it unsafe at 118k miles?
If you lived is Colorado and drove up mountains I would use Premium. If your in flat Illinois you can use regular. I'm kind of different, I use what the people that made the vehicle state I should use in the owners manual. You will get owners that have used regular for 100,000's of mile and claim not problems.
I've been running 87 in both 100's for over 2 years now...no issues at all. The LX belonged to my mother for 10 years and she only ran premium in it. When we took it over and started with regular, no noticeable change in mileage or performance.
Driving to HIH6 later this month I will probably throw premium in since I'll be doing about 5,000 miles and lots of high rpms to get up those big hills.
Driving to HIH6 later this month I will probably throw premium in since I'll be doing about 5,000 miles and lots of high rpms to get up those big hills.
I track my mileage religiously and conducted a two year experiment with this issue. Regular gas provided definitively lower MPG. The difference was around 10% if I recall correctly.
Assuming my experience is indicative of all 100 series engines, you may not be saving any $ at all by using regular. The cost difference between premium and regular varies from around 5% to 15%.
Price spread between regular and premium gasoline has changed over time - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
I use premium always now (91 in my area). When running regular, the marginal savings in gasoline costs is decreased by a drop in MPG and may introduce light knocking in the engine - not enough to throw engine codes, but perhaps enough to introduce a slightly higher rate of wear on internals. I'll pay an extra $2-4 every 250 miles to ensure I'm not hurting long term reliability. I want to hit 500k on this rig.
Take into consideration that most our tires alone cost around $5 per tank of gas and that small bump in gas price may not seem so big.
Assuming my experience is indicative of all 100 series engines, you may not be saving any $ at all by using regular. The cost difference between premium and regular varies from around 5% to 15%.
Price spread between regular and premium gasoline has changed over time - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
I use premium always now (91 in my area). When running regular, the marginal savings in gasoline costs is decreased by a drop in MPG and may introduce light knocking in the engine - not enough to throw engine codes, but perhaps enough to introduce a slightly higher rate of wear on internals. I'll pay an extra $2-4 every 250 miles to ensure I'm not hurting long term reliability. I want to hit 500k on this rig.
Take into consideration that most our tires alone cost around $5 per tank of gas and that small bump in gas price may not seem so big.
I track my mileage religiously and conducted a two year experiment with this issue. Regular gas provided definitively lower MPG. The difference was around 10% if I recall correctly.
Assuming my experience is indicative of all 100 series engines, you may not be saving any $ at all by using regular. The cost difference between premium and regular varies from around 5% to 15%.
Price spread between regular and premium gasoline has changed over time - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
I use premium always now (91 in my area). When running regular, the marginal savings in gasoline costs is decreased by a drop in MPG and may introduce light knocking in the engine - not enough to throw engine codes, but perhaps enough to introduce a slightly higher rate of wear on internals. I'll pay an extra $2-4 every 250 miles to ensure I'm not hurting long term reliability. I want to hit 500k on this rig.
Exactly how I think about it. You gain in mpg what you loose in $ but response at least at this altitude feels better. Hell i even run premium in my lawn mower and snow blower.
I track my mileage religiously and conducted a two year experiment with this issue. Regular gas provided definitively lower MPG. The difference was around 10% if I recall correctly.
Assuming my experience is indicative of all 100 series engines, you may not be saving any $ at all by using regular. The cost difference between premium and regular varies from around 5% to 15%.
Price spread between regular and premium gasoline has changed over time - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
I use premium always now (91 in my area). When running regular, the marginal savings in gasoline costs is decreased by a drop in MPG and may introduce light knocking in the engine - not enough to throw engine codes, but perhaps enough to introduce a slightly higher rate of wear on internals. I'll pay an extra $2-4 every 250 miles to ensure I'm not hurting long term reliability. I want to hit 500k on this rig.
Yep, I found the same result and use premium now.
