Rebuilt Motor - Failure. Hypothesize (1 Viewer)
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Not even the same game.
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decoy
RiverDoug
I spent $12,980 in parts building a long block from oem parts purchased from a local Toyota dealer in Mesa Arizona, about 2 years ago. That includes the hoses and hose clamps. You can skip to 7:51 in this video for the summary or watch the whole thing if you want specifics.
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I had several options to weigh.... 1. find a machine shop who was comfortable with the motor and hope and pray that they correctly machine and assemble the motor (didn't work the first time). 2. Find a rebuilt one from either a company or an "individual" who knows what they are doing and hope it holds. 3. LS swap.
For me, I was either going to send mine out to cruisers and company for a "rebuilt" motor and slap a turbo on it; or try to re-use my supercharger setup. That was a very difficult decision for me.
I was lucky, I think, to find a reputable company to purchase as new of a motor as is possible today. This will allow me to remain OEM and keep the supercharger while all other aspects of the 8o work as they were intended. The argument of supercharger vs turbo is for another thread and another time.
The price to do a LS swap, honestly, shocked me. I do have a good friend who did an LS swap, it's awesome but there are a few quirks with the swap, such as cruise control not working properly, shift points not perfect and a few minor things. Ball park numbers for a proper swap with a new motor was climbing over $30,000.
The decision I finally came too after a couple months of pouring over it was this.... My rig with the supercharger and tight motor with all the upgrades and all the memories that it has provided to me over the years was worth staying OEM. The resale of this rig with the new motor will be much better. parts availability and repairs will be easier and more straight forward.
So that's why I decided to pull the trigger and move in this direction. Ultimately, my long term plan is this, and I'm kind of sad to admit this, but I am getting older..... I'm going to enjoy this truck for another 3 years and then I'm going to sell the 80 and purchase a pick-up. Maybe a tundra, who knows. I'm going to put a pop-top camper on the back of it and slide into old man camping style with lithium batteries, solar panels and air conditioning.
With that said, I think and hope I have made the right decision that will give me pure joy and satisfaction while I continue down the road of loving my 80 until the time is right to part with her and offer her to someone else that can pick up where I left off with a great truck and a "new" motor.
For me, I was either going to send mine out to cruisers and company for a "rebuilt" motor and slap a turbo on it; or try to re-use my supercharger setup. That was a very difficult decision for me.
I was lucky, I think, to find a reputable company to purchase as new of a motor as is possible today. This will allow me to remain OEM and keep the supercharger while all other aspects of the 8o work as they were intended. The argument of supercharger vs turbo is for another thread and another time.
The price to do a LS swap, honestly, shocked me. I do have a good friend who did an LS swap, it's awesome but there are a few quirks with the swap, such as cruise control not working properly, shift points not perfect and a few minor things. Ball park numbers for a proper swap with a new motor was climbing over $30,000.
The decision I finally came too after a couple months of pouring over it was this.... My rig with the supercharger and tight motor with all the upgrades and all the memories that it has provided to me over the years was worth staying OEM. The resale of this rig with the new motor will be much better. parts availability and repairs will be easier and more straight forward.
So that's why I decided to pull the trigger and move in this direction. Ultimately, my long term plan is this, and I'm kind of sad to admit this, but I am getting older..... I'm going to enjoy this truck for another 3 years and then I'm going to sell the 80 and purchase a pick-up. Maybe a tundra, who knows. I'm going to put a pop-top camper on the back of it and slide into old man camping style with lithium batteries, solar panels and air conditioning.
With that said, I think and hope I have made the right decision that will give me pure joy and satisfaction while I continue down the road of loving my 80 until the time is right to part with her and offer her to someone else that can pick up where I left off with a great truck and a "new" motor.
Good plan, Alex. 
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out with the old. Don't kid yourself if you think you can just swap out a motor. Once you pull things out of the way, you realize that sensors are from 1995, plastic pieces are from 1995..... hoses, belts, fasteners, ect...
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decoy
RiverDoug
Here is a copy of the purchase order for engine hoses I cobbled together for my build. In case it comes in handy.
I'm guessing timing chain cover plus pump and bronze bushing
mudgudgeon
Resident galah
Typo on the price?
Oil pump is available assembled in a new timing case with oil pump and cover in place.
I purchased an Aisin one ( had the "Toyota" casting milled off) fairly recently for about $150, Toyota one was about $300 via Partsouq
The Aisin one was slightly different to my original Toyota one.
My original had grooves in the FIPG seal surface ( two gives in places) The Aisin one only has groove in critical spots, like beside part of the oil pump.
Not sure if that's a cost saving by Aisin, or a change by Toyota
Fj80oregon
GOLD Star
The new Toyota covers also do not have the grove any more in the timing cover. They must have changed the design.
decoy
RiverDoug
Holy late reply! Yes sorry about that particular data point. Apologies to OP if I pulled the thread off course as well. The price sheet I had accumulated at that time was still unresolved thus compelling me to disclose "omissions" and less than 100% accuracy in the beginning of the video. I wonder if it would be useful to post that list somewhere on Mud where others can double check, refine and update the list? I was honestly fighting to keep up record keeping through that build.
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update from the weekend. It's amazing how many other items need attention at this stage in the game. And no the motor is not sitting on the tire, it is hanging from a crane.
Waiting on a new PS gear box, but while waiting the motor is going in.
Waiting on a new PS gear box, but while waiting the motor is going in.
Should never leave AC compressor ports open like that, the oil in there has absorbed tremendous amount of moisture and some debris from moving it around. At this point I would use a new compressor!
